Just to be clear on the attribution removal requirement in CC's licenses, Erik asserted:
I wish people would stop releasing data with CC-by; "you have to attribute us, but you have to remove that attribution when ever we want you too" which is not present in ODbL so.... There is no such absolute obligation. In 4.0, the removal requirement provides: "If requested by the Licensor, You must remove any of the information required by Section 3(a)(1)(A) <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/legalcode#s3a1A> to the extent reasonably practicable." (Sec. 3a3 <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/legalcode>). And in 3.0, it's "to the extent practicable", which from a CC perspective is functionally the equivalent (Sec. 4a <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode>). Diane On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Tom Lee <t...@mapbox.com> wrote: > Tobias, the best option for ensuring the data is usable by OSM is an > explicit statement of permission for the OpenStreetMap project to > incorporate and use the data under the project's terms. This is generally > considered preferable to a dataset that is ODbL-licensed without such a > statement. > > However, I would encourage you to consider non-OSM users as well when > choosing the license. ODbL is not widely used outside of OSM. A license > like CC-BY 4.0 is more widely used and actively maintained. Choosing it > would ensure compatibility with a large number of non-OSM datasets. And if > paired with a permission statement like what's described above, OSM could > still use the data without any license compatibility worries. > > Of course, if you can do without attribution, you might consider something > even more simple that disclaims liability but imposes no other terms. If > that's an option let me know and I can turn up some examples. > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Erik Johansson <erjo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Tobias Wendorff >> <tobias.wendo...@tu-dortmund.de> wrote: >> > Dear list, >> > >> > could you please recommend me licenses for releasing data to ODbL? >> > From my point of view, compatible licenses are CC-license without >> > "SA" and "BY" and (only if possible) CC0 and PD or finally special >> > license, like the following one: >> > >> > Some crporations like "Deutsche Bahn" (the biggest rail corporation >> > in Germany) has released their data under CC BY 4.0 with a special text >> > for OpenStreetMap (roughly translated): >> > >> > "If the data of Deutsche Bahn is part of the OpenStreetMap database >> work, >> > a reference to the Deutsche Bahn AG in the list of contributors is >> enough. >> > Crediting DB at each use of the data by a licensee of the mentioned >> database >> > work is no longer necessary then. Indirect credits (with reference to >> the >> > publisher of this databse work, which refers to the DB) is sufficient." >> > >> > Actually, that's a kind of dual-licensing with a special license for >> OSM. >> > From my understanding, releasing data ODbL would be the worst thing, >> > since the "BY" attribution of the data donator isn't compatible, is it? >> >> >> I've choosen not to start on a couple of imports because of the CC-by >> issue, I've gotten ok from the owners but they want to be included on >> http://osm.org/contributors . Deutsche Bahn seems to be much more >> free, I interpret it as source=Deutsche Bahn seems to be enough. >> >> >> I wish people would stop releasing data with CC-by; "you have to >> attribute us, but you have to remove that attribution when ever we >> want you too" which is not present in ODbL so.... >> >> >> >> -- >> /emj >> >> _______________________________________________ >> legal-talk mailing list >> legal-talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk >> > > > _______________________________________________ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > >
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