Hey Paul, got any statistics to back you up on that claim? Just curious??
--- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The overwhelming majority of veterans like myself are against the war > in Iraq and the overwhelming majority of parents who have lost > children in the blatantly unconstitutional and wholly unprovoked war > in Iraq are against the war too. > > Only Hannity, O'Reilly, Coulter, etc. are stupid enough to focus on a > small but vocal minority of idiots. > > > > --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SO TODD, why isn't the media covering all the hundreds of other > > family members of other dead soldiers and Marines, WHO FUCKING HATE > > CINDY SHEEHAN??? > > > > You only hear them interviewed on Hannity, O'Reilly and other > > Conservative media. > > > > Why no interviews of those who disagree with Sheehan on CNN or the > > Washington Post or the NY Times? > > > > > > --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, "Todd Andrew Barnett" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think you guys might find this interesting. > > > > > > http://www.fff.org/comment/com0508h.asp > > > > > > > > > FWIW, Richman's right on target on this issue. And for those > > > liberventionists, conservatives, and neoconservatives who say > > otherwise, you > > > guys are wrong 1000% all the way. Sheehan was right. You guys just > > don't > > > want to not only admit it to us but yourself as well. > > > > > > I rest my case there. > > > > > > > > > That's all I'm gonna say at this time. > > > > > > > > > Yours in Liberty, > > > > > > Todd Andrew Barnett > > > Columnist, Liberty For All Online Magazine > > > http://www.libertyforall.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cindy Sheehan Is Right > > > by Sheldon Richman, August 19, 2005 > > > > > > The sort of people who think there is no greater honor than to die > > in a war > > > are visibly uncomfortable with Cindy Sheehan. They can't > > understand her. > > > Cindy Sheehan is the mother of Casey Sheehan, a U.S. soldier > > killed in Iraq. > > > She's camped outside President Bush's Crawford, Tex., ranch > > demanding a > > > meeting with him and calling attention to the terrible predicament > > into > > > which the president has delivered the American people. > > > > > > Conservative commentators and talk-radio personalities apparently > > can't > > > fathom why Mrs. Sheehan hasn't accepted her loss with more > > equanimity, if > > > not satisfaction. After all, they suggest, her son perished while > > carrying > > > out the inspired will of the president of the United States. Not > > everyone > > > gets to go to his reward in such a grand fashion. Most people die > > > unremarkable deaths, having quietly and unspectacularly worked to > > make > > > decent lives for themselves, taking care of their families and > > being good > > > friends and neighbors. Casey Sheehan and more than 1,800 other > > Americans > > > were lucky to be spared that ho-hum fate. They died for a Great > > Cause. > > > Thousands of others will bear the evidence of their patriotic > > endeavor for > > > the rest of their days, having been crippled or maimed in their > > service to > > > Bush, Rice, and Rumsfeld. > > > > > > Of course the pro-war folks will say that all this death and > > mayhem is for a > > > good reason. No one ever thinks he has sent people to their deaths > > for a bad > > > reason. Harry Truman no doubt thought he was doing good when he > > dropped > > > A-bombs on innocent, unthreatening Japanese civilians 60 years > > ago. I grant > > > you it takes quite an imagination to see good in the vaporizing of > > old men, > > > women, and children. Never underestimate the power of > > rationalization. > > > > > > The conservatives who favor the war most likely believe that Cindy > > Sheehan > > > suffers from false consciousness. Surely she does not know her own > > > interests. In their eyes, she should be a rah-rah supporter of the > > war, > > > especially after the sacrifice of her son. But she's not. She > > can't be right > > > about its immorality. How could she? A Republican president says > > it's right. > > > The rest of her family is reported to favor the war and to > > disapprove of > > > what she is doing. So something must be wrong with her. She is > > being > > > manipulated by the anti-war movement, which hates America. Or so > > some > > > conservatives seem to think. Columnist Frank J. Gaffney Jr. calls > > her "the > > > poster child for surrender [who] has morphed into a pawn in the > > hands of > > > partisans who are indifferent whether the United States is > > defeated on the > > > central front in this global war - as long as Mr. Bush, his > > administration, > > > and party are laid low." > > > > > > Then again, maybe she is right about the war. Maybe it was a > > mistake that > > > should end forthwith. Maybe all those sons and daughters are dying > > for one > > > man's self-delusion and hubris. The American people seem to be > > coming around > > > to this position. > > > > > > And why not? The number-one stated reason for going to war - > > weapons of mass > > > destructive - turned out to be a big zero. The other reasons since > > given > > > prominence - Saddam Hussein's cruelty to the Iraqis, and so on - > > would never > > > have persuaded the American people to put their sons and daughters > > in mortal > > > peril. > > > > > > The president tries, without evidence, to connect Saddam to the al- > > Qaeda > > > attacks on 9/11. But Bush didn't invade Iraq to retaliate for mass > > murder on > > > American soil, although he has now turned that country into a > > recruitment > > > campaign for terrorists. The myth that if they are blowing things > > up there > > > they won't be doing so here is long gone. Ask the Spanish and > > British. > > > > > > For more than eight decades Western politicians have used the > > Middle East > > > for their own purposes. It is not surprising that that has created > > a hatred > > > for imperial policies which motivates people, inexcusably, to > > murder > > > innocents. (Over the years, western empire-builders have not > > exactly been > > > meticulous about sparing innocents.) Recognizing the roots of this > > hatred > > > and acting accordingly do not constitute surrender, as the > > neoconservatives > > > believe, but rationality. > > > > > > Sheldon Richman is senior fellow at The Future of Freedom > > Foundation, author > > > of Tethered Citizens: Time to Repeal the Welfare State, and editor > > of The > > > Freeman magazine. Send him email > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! 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