https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160694
Bug ID: 160694
Summary: One user interface does not have the same menu as
another
Product: LibreOffice
Version: 24.2.2.2 release
Hardware: All
OS: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: medium
Component: Writer
Assignee: libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org
Reporter: nad...@seznam.cz
Description:
Hello, my problem is not about sam malfunction but just about user friendliness
and comprehensibility and logic of the user control.
I set up a "tabs similar to MS Office" interface and I need to turn on the
vertical ruler.
I found the hint to be View > Rulers > Vertical Ruler. But I see only the
Rulers button on the View tab, but there is no way to open it and select
"vertical ruler".. so it is swithing on of only horisonstal ruler.
So I tried to find another official help and i found this: Tools - Options -
LibreOffice Writer - View. This was working, but in one user interface you will
find it in the menu, in secound you have to open full options and hardly search
for it? Its big inconsistency.
The only option how to do it by clicking in the users menu would be to switch
to the original user interface, without tabs, and set it there according to
standard help - I hope so, so I continue this direction.
And there was another problem - it should be View > User Interface... How in
previous interface it was and how official help says.. But again - there is no
such option on the View tab. No matter what I am trying to click on it.
On the View tab, there is also a drop-down View button on the right, where I
would expect these "extra" tools that did not fit on the tabs. But they are not
even there.
Finally! after some more searching I thought it might be somewhere in the
"three commas" menu.. and sure enough, it's there. In a completely unexpected
place that no hint mentions. The help says it will be in the menu, which is
represented by tabs in this environment, not in ambivalent button above these
tabs.
In other words, for me, the bug is that one user interface does not have the
same menu content in the same place as the original one, and therefore it is
not even possible to switch to the original user interface according to the
standard help or turn on the vertical ruler according to the standard help, and
there will probably be more of those things of "incompatibility" between
standard help and "non standard" user interface (but it is standard because it
is included in standard LibreOffice).
Expected behavior in my opinion: it's understandable that card mode can't
contain such a rich menu like standard interface. But there is always a
clickable button on the right of the card, where there could be functions that
did not fit into the cards. Or button "Rullers" could be clickable and after
that "horisontal ruler on/off" and "verticaL ruler on/off".
I kind of think that this topic will be evaluated as crap by you developers,
but in my opinion, it is precisely these little things and poor expectations in
the control and logic of the program that lead to the fact that Excel is
sometimes recognized as much easier to control and therefore more popular among
ordinary users. That's why I believe that a little care in this topic could
make a big difference for the better. Thank you very much.
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Switch to a "tabs similar to MS Office" interface
2. Try to find vertical ruler under button Rullers on the card/tab View / or at
least find it in the clicable button View on the right of the same card
3. Try to find button User interface on the card View / or at least find it in
the clicable button View on the right of the same card
Actual Results:
Some functionality is not present in "tabs similar to MS Office" interface (and
maybe also other interfaces)
Expected Results:
All interfaces has the same content so it is easy to find any setting or swith
for any function according to standard help and according to natural
expectation
Reproducible: Always
User Profile Reset: No
Additional Info:
"Please copy here the information from menu Help - About LibreOffice. You can
also add other information that might be relevant"
LOL - the same story, there is no such menu in described tab "Help", tehre is
even no this tab. So again - searching on other places and found it! "Three
commas" menu > About LibreOffice
Content:
Version: 24.2.2.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: d56cc158d8a96260b836f100ef4b4ef25d6f1a01
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19045; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: cs-CZ (cs_CZ); UI: cs-CZ
Calc: threaded
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