David Boyes opined: >Tim's idea would be useful if z/OSe was still actively marketed by IBM....
zNALC z/OS, and the Solution Editions for z/OS, are the successors-of-interest to z/OS.e (and also to NALC z/OS). The successors are, in every respect, much better. IBM announced zNALC on January 9, 2007, i.e. over a decade ago. To be clear, I'm not asserting that my idea is "useful." I'm just answering the question, that's all. The range of new use cases for Oracle Database 10g R2 for z/OS on z/VM is likely to be extremely limited at best, especially given that Oracle Database 12c for Linux on z/VM is available. I'm still not sure why "pretend Linux doesn't exist..." is part of the need/desire/curiosity. z/OS and Linux both exist, and thrive. >A full z/OS license at current prices just for creating appliances would be >difficult to make work in a cost-effective manner.... Last I checked, zNALC z/OS with a reasonable set of optional z/OS elements had/has a U.S. commercial price starting at about $125/month, including standard IBM Support (24x7 Severity 1). For prospective OEMs, I don't know, but give your friendly IBM representative a call if you'd like to explore something. FYI, z/VM 6.4 already includes select components derived from z/OS 2.2. That's no secret because IBM just told the world that fact in the z/VM 6.4 announcement letter. Alan could probably tell you more (if he's allowed :-)), but my understanding (just reading what IBM has written) is that z/VM's z/OS-derived components support certain z/VM elements and features using common, battle tested codebases. One notable example is z/VM's LDAP client and server feature. The z/OS-derived components are really for z/VM's own use. However, perhaps z/VM's preexisting z/OS-derived components would interest you, and perhaps IBM would be interested in helping support whatever project you have in mind. No guarantees, of course, but it doesn't hurt to ask. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/