Linux-Advocacy Digest #284, Volume #27 Fri, 23 Jun 00 16:13:11 EDT
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Lost Cause Theater!!! (Charlie Ebert)
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From: Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lost Cause Theater!!!
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 03:46:24 GMT
Goodevening,
Welcome to another episode of
"LOST CAUSE THEATER!"
This evening we will examine the comments of a man known to us
only as Simon777.
Simon777 has posted around 200 messages to COLA in the last say,
3 weeks.
Simon777 is a typical representation of the windows community today.
They are fearful that Linux is taking over their PC world and
rightfully so.
Linux is beginning to take serious chuncks our of the Microsoft
market, starting this year.
Simon777 isn't the only Windows nut we have on COLA, we have others.
Simon777 is the BEST reason to leave Windows and use Linux as I see
it. Why else would somebody post over 200 messages to COLA in less
than one month? Why?
Is Simon777 a psyco destine to hurt some school kids in some
school yard somewhere? Maybe rape some woman and cut her throat?
Or do people like Simon777 really feel threatened by the Linux
advance?
I'm going to say they are fearfull of loosing Windows to
Linux. After all, there have been no mass murderer's write
to Cola in the past that anybody's aware of!!!
Why ELSE would somebody post all these messages, over 200 in
say just 3 weeks time over Linux. Why?
The reason why is even the top windows supporters agree that
Windows is dead. Why else would they spend their precious time
and do this on COLA?
If Windows is the operating system of the masses then why
are we seeing more and more whiny butt Wintrolls in Cola?
Over 200 in 3 weeks however, this is obsessive behavior for
the Wintroll Simon777.
I think there is a real FEAR amongst the Microsoft community
Windows is on it's way out!
And it's a justified fear folks!
But just read this brilliance and then verify it, then
make your own determination.
I've reposted just a small fraction of this one guy's posts.
We have dozens of Wintrolls doing the same thing?
Geeze! If Linux is NO-THREAT then why???
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Subject:
Re: Advocacy or Mental Illness ?
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Thu, 25 May 2000 02:28:24 GMT
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It's amazing how twisted the folks around here are. Linux is a stone
age system that quite frankly the public at large, at least in the
USA, has ignored and continues to ignore.
Think about it. Person goes into CompUSA with $100 and is confronted
with Windows for $89.00 and Linux for $29.00 or better yet for free.
Yet they go for Windows every time based on market share.
They can't even GIVE LINUX AWAY!!!!
Linux is for lusers. It best serves folks who like to fiddle and fuss
with their computers.
I stopped that routine 10 years ago.
When the Linux zealots start listening to what REAL people want(hint
compilers and editor wars need not apply) maybe, just maybe they will
gain market share, until then forget it
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Re: how to configure corel linux boot to GUI?
Date:
Thu, 25 May 2000 02:32:15 GMT
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And if it's not documented you are screwed...Typical Linoshit..Read
this read that read everything to accomplish which would normally be
an easy task.
Linux is a waste of time.
Subject:
Re: Fun with Brain Dead Printers.
Date:
Thu, 25 May 2000 02:33:39 GMT
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You have a brain dead operating system, not a brain dead printer.
Linux is braindead.
Your printer works fine under Windows...
Subject:
Re: Font deuglification ??
Date:
Thu, 25 May 2000 02:35:15 GMT
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And you never will find it. Linux looks ugly and like shit comapred to
Windows.
It is the dirty ugly secret, among others, of Linux.
Do your eyes a favor and run an operating system that at least looks
decent.
I would suggest Mac.
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Re: Why my company will NOT use Linux
Date:
Thu, 25 May 2000 02:37:59 GMT
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Excellent post. My suggestion is to try Linux in some small deployment
and see what happens.
It won't take long for you to make a decision.
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Re: Linux good choice for home desktop.
Date:
Thu, 25 May 2000 02:39:06 GMT
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Sure it is, if you are a programmer geek. If you are normal, Linux is
worst choice you could possibly make for a desktop system.
I'd rather run a Commodore-64
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Re: Installing Linux Mandrake 7.0
Date:
Thu, 25 May 2000 02:47:15 GMT
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Who needs nasty sound anyway. You are running Linux, the premier
operating system. Sound is so far below your intellect level.
Who needs nasty printing anyway. You are running Linux, the premier
operating system. Printing is so far below your intellect level
anyhow.
Who needs nasty networking anyway. You are running Linux, the premier
operating system. Networking is so far below your intellect level.
A miracle. Call the Pope, he needs to hear this one.
You must be blind. All the Linonuts say they look fine. You are only
the 1 millionth person to say this.
Who needs good looking fonts anyway. You are running Linux, the
premier operating system. Good looking fonts are so far below your
intellect level. You mean you don't run green screen?
Welcome to Linux Pete. The operating system that so much less than the
others.
Why should you or anyone else put up with this crap?
Get the performance out of your hardware that you paid for.
You got what you didn't pay for...Sorry..You are in good company
though :)
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Re: Installing Linux Mandrake 7.0
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Thu, 25 May 2000 02:48:25 GMT
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Good advice...Try it and see..
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Re: Linux will never progress beyond geekdome
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Thu, 25 May 2000 02:50:57 GMT
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Linux has the "suck-factor" to overcome.
Like the commercial says "Just one look, that's all it took"
And bye bye Linux.....
The more folks that try it the more pissed off users there are, who
tell other users, who tell other users and so forth.
Linux will be dead in 2 years unless it does something dramatic, and
that is highly unlikely.
I mean they can't even give the garbage away...
Subject:
Re: Advocacy or Mental Illness ?
Date:
Thu, 25 May 2000 04:32:37 GMT
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And DOS advanced and UNIX stayed put right in the stone age where it
belongs. Oh yea BTW Linux is NOT Unix. Linux is Linux and it sucks.
Don't try and compare it to REAL Unix, please.
Sure they do. When they sell 10 copies of Linux in April and 20 copies
in May you have a 100 percent increse. Get real already. Linux has not
even made a chink in Windows armour.
Can't tell you. I don't run DOS. But Linux will be dead in 2 years or
so. Unix will survive, but Linux will be dead.
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Re: Fun with Brain Dead Printers.
Date:
Thu, 25 May 2000 04:34:24 GMT
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Fucking idiot. The guy's printer works under the most popular OS on
the planet, you expect it to work under a ner-do-well piece of shit OS
like Linux?
Give me a break....
Stop crying sour grapes just because your choice of OSen is at the
bottum of the list for hardware manufacturers...
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Re: how to configure corel linux boot to GUI?
Date:
Thu, 25 May 2000 04:36:03 GMT
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I don't know what ICl is so I can't comment.
Nope.. Plugin the card and fire up the diskette that came with it.
Chances are 99.9999 percent it will work under WIndows/Dos. Linux?
Good luck....
Don't see Linux mentioned on the outside of the box do you?
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Re: Installing Linux Mandrake 7.0
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Thu, 25 May 2000 14:12:35 GMT
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They don't beleive you because they live in their own fantasy land and
any negative comment about Linux is not allowed.
Subject:
OT Please remember Memorial Day
Date:
Fri, 26 May 2000 23:42:50 GMT
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Off topic for our friends outside of the USA, but to those Americans
in the group, please take a moment and reflect on all we have in this
country that was fought for by people who believed in freedom. Many
gave their lives for our country and it is ultimately because of them
that we have our freedom to speak and more importantly the freedom to
chose, and this includes Linux for those that appreciate and enjoy it
and Windows just the same.
Say thanks to a vet this Memorial Day weekend.
He/She will appreciate it and you will feel better also.
Subject:
Re: There is NO reason to use Linux...It just STINX
Date:
Fri, 26 May 2000 23:51:06 GMT
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Defacto standard? Based on what? The number of users?
I doubt that....
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Re: The Linux Fortress
Date:
Sun, 28 May 2000 19:14:14 GMT
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Welcome to Linux, where simple tasks become difficult.
Win98SE will do this right out of the box as well as internet
connection sharing (wait till you try that one under Linux). It's so
simple a 5 year old could do it by just hitting enter and accepting
the defaults.
Alas, why people wish to waste their lives away reading reams of
conflicting, outdated documentation to do what should be easy is
beyond me.
Every time I hear the word Samba I think of that movie "They Shoot
Horses Don't They?" where the couples enter a dance marathon and dance
non-stop for weeks.
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Re: In Bellevue can buy Linux?
Date:
Sun, 28 May 2000 21:17:30 GMT
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Check the reject bin (opened returned items) at CompUSA. They had a
pile of Redhat boxes there on fire sale for $9.95. Current editions
too.
Subject:
Corel lusing with Linux also.
Date:
Mon, 29 May 2000 23:02:32 GMT
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LinuxCare goes under.
Redhat can't figure out what it wants to do in the Linux world.
IBM dumps Linux shares.
And now Corel, betting all their chips on Linux, posts a loss.
Who will be next?
http://www.infoworld.com/articles/ec/xml/00/03/20/000320eccorelloss.xml
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Re: Microsoft W2K lack of goals.
Date:
Tue, 30 May 2000 21:01:43 GMT
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Your proof?
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Re: Corel lusing with Linux also.
Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 01:55:25 GMT
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You should have bought it on Friday :)
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Re: What the hell is Linux?
Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 13:54:13 GMT
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After being a Wordperfect 5.1 junkie, and using Brief for a while as
well, when I first tried MS Word way back in the 1980's I thought
Microsoft would never make it anywhere near as far as it had. My chips
were with Wordperfect and Borland.
They are crooks, no doubt and even knowledgeable Windows users will
agree with that statement.
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Re: GNOME.org needs to get their act together...
Date:
Thu, 01 Jun 2000 02:01:10 GMT
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Typical Linux...Better put on the flame proof suit because you will be
called an idiot by the zealots.
Subject:
I guess I got my answer :) TruboLinux having problems.
Date:
Thu, 01 Jun 2000 17:33:29 GMT
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Boy that didn't take long. I posted a message a couple of days ago
asking which Linux distro would be the next to start having problems.
Looks like TurboLinux is the winner.....
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0%2C4586%2C2580040%2C00.html
They are going down like ten pins in the Linux world.
I predict in the not to distant future SuSE will be the only
commercial distribution survivor.
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Re: I guess I got my answer :) TruboLinux having problems.
Date:
Thu, 01 Jun 2000 19:19:32 GMT
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Read the url.
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0%2C4586%2C2580040%2C00.html
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Re: I guess I got my answer
Date:
Thu, 01 Jun 2000 19:34:56 GMT
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Very interesting point. Personally, I have always felt SuSE was/is a
good distro followed by Mandrake.
I just don't think there is enough of a market to sustain all of the
players. According to the ZDnet article TurboLinux had deals with
major players (IBM for instance) and still can't pull it together.
I think the future of a Linux that can actually unseat Windows as top
desktop operating system (by install count) is fading fast.
Red Hat will be the next to crash, although the initial insider
trading beneficiaries will walk away very rich people.
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Re: I guess I got my answer
Date:
Thu, 01 Jun 2000 20:59:10 GMT
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I don't think it is the same. Example: In the Linux world many new
comers think of Linux as "RedHat", despite there being other (better
IMHO) distributions out there.
In the Windows world, one does not think of Windows as Compaq, or
PackHard Bell or such.
Agreed, but that seems to be the path that the folks leading these
companies are taking. This, BTW is not necessarily the same path taken
by the true Linux supporters, but money talks.
I don't want to see RedHat or any other Linux/Windows company go
under, I just don't get warm fuzzies about their current direction.
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Re: I guess I got my answer
Date:
Thu, 01 Jun 2000 21:01:38 GMT
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Speaking as a complete, more or less, Linux outsider, to ME Slackware
is the very definition, for good or for worse, of Linux.
Raw, rough and to the point. It does what you tell it and nothing more
or less.
My last experience was with 3.6 FWIW.
My error in forgetting to mention it.
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Re: GNOME.org needs to get their act together...
Date:
Thu, 01 Jun 2000 22:13:24 GMT
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On 01 Jun 2000 15:16:24 -0600, Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
And to restate the point yet AGAIN, YOU DON"T HAVE to do it under
Windows. Ever, never and no way so you are grasping at straws here.
My experience was much the same, albeit 6 months ago, as the original
poster. This, depends on that which depends on yet another that and on
and on and on again.
A nightmare, and kde is just as bad.
Typical Linux crap..All he has to do is find an *.rpm or *.deb for his
particular distribution and version. Good luck.
What if he is using Slackware?
Try again......
That hamster is getting slow these days :)
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Re: I guess I got my answer :) TruboLinux having problems.
Date:
Thu, 01 Jun 2000 22:17:38 GMT
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Yea I do. I work in the industry and visit more data centers in a week
than most of the geeks in this group have seen in their entire
lifetimes.
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Re: I guess I got my answer
Date:
Thu, 01 Jun 2000 22:49:41 GMT
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On Thu, 01 Jun 2000 22:27:27 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lewis)
wrote:
And I agree with you completely, despite being a Windows user.
To ME Windows and Linux are completely different entities, just like
Mac and Windows are.
I have nothing against CLI, I support it in fact.
I have nothing against text file configs.
I hate the concept of registry.
But, and this is a big but (hey that's kinda funny :))
When the Linux user tries to equate the ease of use, and program
availability and support with Windows I draw the line. To ME they are
2 different worlds, and each can co-exist in their own right. I don't
expect Linux to replace Windows on the desktop anytime soon and I
don't expect Windows to dominate the server market much longer either.
Different applications and different operating systems and neither is
the holy grail.
Windows users are not interested in editing anything to make a program
work.
Setup.exe does it all.
Example: One of the Linux supporters in the group (Darren I think) is
a mathematician and he uses Tex/Latex to typeset his writings. Would I
suggest he use MSWord? NEVER, not in a million years. The paper clip
would die trying to deal with a sigma symbol or an integral symbol. At
the same time I would not deposit Latex/Tex on a fortune 500
secretaries desk in the hopes of replacing Word/Wordperfect or Lotus.
IMHO Linux is making the exact same mistake that OS/2 made, trying to
please everyone. Linux should stick to the server market where it has
gained strength, and forget the desktop.
Just my opinions
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Re: How Pete Goodwin Can Fix "The sad Linux story"
Date:
Fri, 02 Jun 2000 00:32:55 GMT
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Walk up to 100 people on Wall Street in NYC and say "Excel" what it
is? and see what they say.
Walk up to 100 people on Wall Street in NYC and say "cat, ls, more,
less" What are they? and see what they say.
Sounds like Windows/DOS to me.
Dir /help tells you what dir is.
So they march to a different drummer than everyone else? Nope
standards are necessary. I type command.com on any Windows system and
it starts the shell. I install StarOffice under Linux and how do I
start it? Seems to be a FAQ in the setup groups. Pathetic if you ask
me.
Why bother? Windows already has a linked help system that blows Linux
out of the water. That's the primary reason why there is so little
Windows documentation in print. You don't need it.
Why isn't it correctly done as default? Seems pretty simple to me, yet
every single distribution I have ever used has put dead links in the
kde menues.
Ever hear about what a properly installed and well executed Operating
system can do?
Hint, it's not Linux.
Why should one have to work at it? This is proof of the fallacy of
Open Sores and free software. You pay with your time.
These gripes are FAQ, and you can check the Linux groups for proof.
They have not been fixed in 3 years and won't ever get fixed at the
current speed.
LDP is so into themselves that they can't see the forest for the
trees. If it were not so, these complains would have been fixed years
ago...Sorry..
This point is true, but again how much money is Pete's time worth?
Mine goes for $250/hour and I am certain there are others much higher.
Good conclusion and I agree with you, but again I say why? When he can
get everything he wants and far more running another operating system?
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Re: New User here, and I think Linux Stinks!
Date:
Fri, 02 Jun 2000 14:01:27 GMT
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As a matter of fact I did back in 1977. I became VERY well versed in
the repair manual, especially the electrical sections.
It was well worth it though as cruising through the countryside with
the top down on a nice spring day was hard to beat.
Alas it rusted out from under me, but I still have fond memories of
that car.
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Re: I guess I got my answer :) TruboLinux having problems.
Date:
Fri, 02 Jun 2000 14:04:00 GMT
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I retract my statement.
Thank you Gary for the information
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Re: New User here, and I think Linux Stinks!
Date:
Sat, 03 Jun 2000 15:18:17 GMT
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Different experience here:
1.Plug in scanner
2.Windows recogonizes it and asks for CD.
3.Pop in CD.
4. Installs perfectly.
5.Also installs some great software like Adobe Photoshop.
6. Wizard guides me through making first scan, although you can stop
at that point if you wish.
Under Linux /Sane?
Hung the entire machine.
BRS time.
Yep Linux, in some cases, is light years behind Windows.
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Re: How Pete Goodwin Can Fix "The sad Linux story"
Date:
Sat, 03 Jun 2000 15:27:37 GMT
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Of course it is, running under Linux most likely.
That's the funniest part of this whole Linux movement, and it is a
movement, they keep changing the rules as you go along depending on
the discussion.
Example:
Answer #1:Linux is as easy to use as Windows when using a gui.
Answer #2: Do you want someone (Linux) to do everything for you?
You will get either or of the above answers depending upon which point
of Linux you make a suggestion about.
They march to a completely different drummer than the typical office
running Windows.
"Best" if you are a programmer, willing to dedicate your life to
figuring out how they want you to perform simple tasks.
Ouch!!
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Re: How Pete Goodwin Can Fix "The sad Linux story"
Date:
Sat, 03 Jun 2000 15:31:55 GMT
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***Sarcasm ON*****
"So fix it yourself if you don't like it. You have the source code"
***Sarcasm OFF****
The school my kids attend has them designing their own web pages using
Front Page as early as the third grade.
Some of them are pretty good too.
I'd love to see the looks on their faces when some Linux nut tells
them to use a text editor to write the HTML.
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Re: How Pete Goodwin Can Fix "The sad Linux story"
Date:
Sat, 03 Jun 2000 16:05:03 GMT
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Doesn't matter, it's the result that counts.
And Linux is not Unix.
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Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K
Date:
Sat, 03 Jun 2000 16:07:32 GMT
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They are doing the well known
"Linux, Twist and Shout"
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Yea we know.
There always seems to be someone "helping" Linux, and goodness knows
just one look and it's obvious it needs all the help it can get.
Problem is, much of this so called help never materializes into
anything.
Or it arrives on the scene just in time to have Windows announce newer
and better technology.
IBM and Oracle were throwing all kinds of support behind TurboLinux
and look how far it got them...
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What a joke. The card has gone through at least 3 revisions, possibly
more, and Creative STILL hasn't come up with a fully functional,
meaning it has all of the features of it's Win counterpart, driver.
Typical Linux.
Notice the standard Lino-Nut-Side-Step phrases like:
"Working On"
"Full Drivers"
That is the clue that you will be getting a half assed implementation
of the drivers or hardware or software.
Nothing new for Linux though.
Support arrives just in time for the card to be discontinued and
replaced by something better.
What a laugh this Linux is....
And I know far more about the subject than you...
So there :)
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Re: New User here, and I think Linux Stinks!
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Talk to Happauge about that for providing a shitty install program.
But you just said nobody needs a wizard to help them scan.
Sounds like Grandma could use one.
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And Linux once again proves it's up to the task.
Typical Linux...
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of
goals.
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Until you get all the dependency problems...
No thanks, I prefer the Windows way..Works everytime for me.
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No it demonstrates that Pete actually tried the operation and pointed
out the lack of consistancy between applications on a Linux system.
Linux is still a hodge-podge of swiss army knife applications that
have no rivets at one end of the blade to hold it together.
All of them lag behind Windows and do nothing more than confuse the
end user.
No wonder Linux is dying on the desktop.
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I'm a Windows user NOT (God forbid) a Linsux user.
simon
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And none of them is as consistent between applications and desktop as
Windows.
It's a confusing hodgepodge.
You'll never "win" any Windows converts with Motif.
Kde or Gnome is your best chance at the moment, and they aren't doing
too well at it.
The reject bin at the local national Computer Store says otherwise.
Redhat latest version including the powerpack thingie and all the
bells and whistles $9.99 and there must be 20 of them in there. None
on the shelf BTW and in fact no Linux stuff except for Mandrake and
there were 2 dusty copies of that one.
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Alt-PrintScreen and open up Windows Paint and paste.
Instant screen dump.....
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That's a case of good judgement on your part. Factory stock radios
tend to be overpriced and not up to the quality that you can get in
the aftermarket.
You made a wise decision.
Unfortunately in my Impala SS I had no choice but to take the factory
Bose system which sucks. Well, it's not THAT bad but I could have done
much better for less money than I probably paid for it.
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Sounds like my cousin :(
Put ANY technical device in front of him for a few minutes and chances
are it will cease to exist.
This guy could break a 2 ton cast iron anchor.
The stories I could tell you about his Windows installs, yikes.
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Simon. There are too many steve's in the group already.
Anyway, I'm not sure what I am missing here as the geek-speak is
growing by the minute and I don't speak geek.
The guy wants a screen dump yes?
What is the difference what library or application it is?
It is on the screen yes?
Seems easy to dump the screen buffer no?
Is there more to this?
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Never said I did David. The guy wanted to do a screen dump. Someone
suggested patching in *.c code.
Is/was this necessary?
If it was Linux is lame.
If not, how does one go about it.
That is it in a nutshell.
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Re: 10 Months of my time wasted on Linux. Back to
Microsoft for me!
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Sorry to disappoint you David but it's not me...
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Re: 10 Months of my time wasted on Linux. Back to
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Actually I hade the WOrdperfect suite crash on me a couple of times
under Linux, but truthfully the experience was no worse than
Wordperfect (Corel variety) under Windows.
The on screen fonts were painful though, but it did printout fine.
I saw osha come in and fine a client for not having wrist pads on
their PC's because some user complained. I also saw them fine another
client for having a coat hook too close to the bathroom door, meaning
someone could hit their head on it.
Nothing would surprise me with osha.
I agree. this is doubtful. More than likely they are running the
Yamaha embedded SoundBoard whose name escapes me at the moment. XG
something or other.
Most sudio I have seen is done over a laptop via an on screen
projection system and they usually use Ensoniq sound chips.
I agree with you jedi.
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Re: SVGALib
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On Wed, 07 Jun 2000 23:13:53 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
wrote:
Explain this to me?
If something is on the screen, why can it not be dumped?
I have to admit, maybe I don't.
Explain this to me, I am always willing to learn.
My perspective is:
1.He wants to do screen dump.
2. Code patched in is suggested.
3. Why do we need to patch anything?
Translate for me please.
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Re: 10 Months of my time wasted on Linux. Back to
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This is true. I have several folks I know that have requested, and
gotten, high tech ergonimic chairs and workstation support facilities.
Super high res text is as bad or worse than fuzzy text. IMHO it's a
fine line, and an individual line, between what is comfortable.
Personally I prefer the smooth MS fonts and general look. Others may
differ.
I find a
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Let's make this simple.
1. The guy wanted to do a screen shot.
2. If you are doing a screen shot the image is already on the screen
yes?
3. Why does one need *.c code to capture an image already on the
screen?
That is my question.
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Speaking for myself, and MY experience in talking with real world
computer professionals everyday, the bottom line is most people don't
give a flying fsk about the decision, either good or bad.
This is the reality. It would be the same reaction if it were Linux,
MacOS or some other more or less mainstream OS.
People really don't care.
I am not saying this is good or bad (I feel it is bad) but at least
here in the good ol' USA folks are more concerned with what Rosie
O'Donnel (a fouth mouthed no talent) is doing next week, than with a
major decision like the Microsoft one.
It is very sad. Very sad indeed.
Subject:
Re: Just Installed Win 2K and it ROCKS!!!!!!!
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Next time I need 512 CPU's in my living room I will make certain to
call on Linux.
Next time my Impala SS can't do 155 MPH I'll make certain and look up
Ricky Rudd and ask for advice.
BTW my Impala SS has been clocked at 147 mph, so maybe I am getting
close.
It's stock also.
Great car for cruising the LIE (Long Island Expressway) when the
soccer mom crazies in their SUV's try and tailgate me of an exit ramp
at 70mph.
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Re: Just Installed Win 2K and it ROCKS!!!!!!!
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You asked some good questions so I will answer.
1. It just plain looks better. Smoother, graphics are much more
responsive and setting up the networking was simple.
I will, however give Linux Mandrake 7.x the gold ring when it comes
to the overall install. Mandrake was stellar on my system and required
only one reboot.
Win 2k needs to learn more about how to install properly.
Linux just looks at acts ugly. IMHO it is just crappy looking.
The file managers of both kde and Gnome take an eternity to post a gui
view of a directory with icons.
Windows 2k does a similar directory in a split second.
Linux is not doing pretty good, it is doing FANTASTIC, considering all
of the obstacles.
You are correct though that I am interested in results and not
interested in tinkering.
Others have different agendas.
Livewire is the software that allows the SBLive card to perform up to
it's full potential instead of being degraded to a SB-16 on steroids
like Linux does to the card.
Linux has had basic drivers for the card long before (at least 9
months) Win2k was even released, but yet you can go to the Creative
site and download Livewire for Win2k but not for Linux.
This tells me something about Creative's priorities here.
Creative has been promising support for almost 2 years now. Still
Linux has half assed support for that card.
Same thing with 3d video on certain cards. Printer support and so
forth.
Why is it that an operating system released long after Linux can have
this support but Linux does not?
Based on 95 percent of market share Windows is not going away anytime
soon.
So do I, and I agree with you, but most folks don't know this
information and could give a rats ass about Linux when Windows does
everything they need.
The market place is entrenched with Windows for what ever that is
worth.
Linux has to be far superior to take over that market place.
Linux is free and still has not made even a minuscule dent in the
desktop market.
It's been a pleasure speaking with you!!!
Simon
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Re: An Example of the Superiority of Windows vs Linux
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Totally lame....
Is that the best the Linux lusers can put up...
No wonder Linux is as pathetic as it is.
simon
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Let us know when you have a mainframe in your living room.
Better let your wife know first though :)
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Only stock I own is Pepsi Cola.
Where is that?
I can't name one person that I have met that has actually kept Linux
on their system for any length of time after actually trying it.
Can't say. Why are YOU here?
Windows does on all counts.
ANY?
Please look up the word in the dictionary.
Does QVC run on Linux?
I'd like to see how many PC systems they would sell if they were
preloaded with Linsux.
My guess is none.
Who cares about Microsoft's legal battles, except you.
They did wrong they get punished. That's it.
Nobody really cares, except you of course.
Microsoft isn't going to disappear anytime soon.
Looks like a low pressure system is headed your way.
Linux get's flushed on a daily basis. I see it everyday in my day gig.
Better use bleach because Linux is nasty....
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Great News!!!!!
See, they would have used Linsux, but in space the sickly looking
displays caused nausea.
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Re: Linux MUST be in TROUBLE
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Called crap only by virtue of sour grapes meaning Linux users need not
apply.
I used to call Chevy Corvettes crap back when was 18 and couldn't
afford one.
Fully supported under Win 2k.
Audio support for BEOS is dying, see the groups for details. BEOS will
be dead soon.
OS/2 is dead..Ask IBM....
Why doesn't Winfax work under MVS ESA?
Your argument negates the fact that only Linux is trying to equal
Windows
Windows does that automagically. Excepting of course the odball
filetype that some LinoIdiot will send now and then.
But it works under Windows.
Under Linux?
Good luck.
I don't.. My company forbids Linux because it is not considered a
standard. Other companies, mainly brokerage houses and banks do the
same.
Take any person and have them try Winfax and sane side by side and see
what they think.
I can hear the laughter now...
I have nothing to fear.
I have the software.
I have the hardware support.
I have the user base at 90 percent or more.
What is to fear?
Linux users need to advocate and fear, not Windows users.
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On the desktop?
Prove it!!!!
Yawn..under Windows you need not concern yourself with such tripe.
And what happens when this mounted CDROM is needed by one of the Linux
WinAmp Clones (terrible and cheap as they are)?
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Re: An Example of the Superiority of Windows vs Linux
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But you still haven't answered the original question.
So why doesn't Linux......?
Every Windows program that I have installed has put an icon either on
the desktop or in the Starup->program menu and that includes the
README and other information.
Please provide me with an example of a current Windows program that
does not?
Oh that's certainly something Joe Sixpack will remember..
You prove my point all the time....
I prefer clicking on the icon that says "Scan image"
Try them and you will see. I have used both Linux deviants and Windows
versions and it ain't even close in terms of ease of use and
comparability between programs.
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And you are missing the fact that folks want an end result, the
easiest path between two points.
Ecommerce, E-Web, E-banking are all examples.
Linux is an example of an operating system getting in the way time and
time again.
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A "Shill" is a person who aids a crook or a fraud in seemingly making
the "act" look legitimate.
Example: A person who drives up the price of a bid at an auction with
the intent of collecting money from the seller but without intent of
ever buying the auctioned product.
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Re: Linux MUST be in TROUBLE
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Won?
Slaughtered is a better way of telling it.
The Linoscrews like to say a 50 percent increase in sales.
Well when they have sold 10 copies last year and 15 copies this year,
I guess they are correct.
Windows=90 percent of the market.....
Take that to the bank baby...
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Ok so why does Gnome keep crashing all the time?
I have more of those tiny Time-Bomb icons around than I care to.
KDE is much more stable, but doesn't look as smooth to me.
Neither is anywhere near to Windows GUI for consistency with
applications and look and feel.
Not even close....
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Linux is based on Unix?
Care to prove that?
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Re: Linux MUST be in TROUBLE
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Just like the Linux IPO's are dying one after the other now that the
real world of the corporation has taken a good look at Linux and has
deemed it a mess.
It's already dying. Along with BEOS, which Stienberg has withdrawn
support and according to rumour Emagic is the next one.
Linux is always behind. It has no future....
Yea sure. It will support the same hardware in 2 years that Windows
supports now....
It will be gone...
Sure and another 20 meg of convoluted files for the already confused
user to download.
When you run Linsux you are hooked alright.
Hook , Line, and Sinker.....
Always the promise, never the present.....
By about 10 years......
total?
I would say 15 years at best.....
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BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just in time for ISA slots to be eliminated from motherboards.....
At best you can buy a Motherboard with ONE ISA slot....
Typical Linux....
It's there just in time for something else to surpass it.
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You had better post that ditty to the setup groups because you would
not believe how many people ask the question:
I just installed Wordperfect, now how do I start it?
What a joke this Linshit is.....
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The LinoNuts won't hear the difference. They are so used to running
with shit hardware and software that they accept it as normal....
They should try running a game with full audio support and hear the
difference some time....
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KDE rarely crashes so I have to assume it is Gnome.
I have a Matrox G200 with 8 meg..
I will take a look..
Thanks...
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I was being kind :)
Yes it does, and rightfully so. SuSE and Mandrake are IMHO the way
things should be done.
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It looks like Unix but does it have Logical Volumes like AIX?
Or the Solaris equivilant?
Just one example...
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No it's not. I can stream 48 tracks of digital audio with full FFT
based effects under WIndows 98SE without a hic-up. My scanner/printer
is supported under Windows, just like 99 percent of every peice of
hardware out on the market.
Can Linux claim the same?
Doubtful...
Linux development IS moving faster than WIndows, this is true. But it
STILL has NOT even come close. The future will tell whether or not it
surpasses Windows. I look forward to the future...
Subject:
Re: An Example of the Superiority of Windows vs Linux
Date:
Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:52:02 GMT
From:
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Newsgroups:
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References:
1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 , 8
You can easily erase or move them unlike Linux....
Never heard of it.
Some sort of Physic program or something?
No that's a demonstration of the ease of Windows and the archaicness
of Linux.
If both are indeed provided.
No... I have used both SANE and Winfax and there is absolutely no
comparison.
Not even close.
Iter-program operability is only one area.
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