Linux-Advocacy Digest #970, Volume #34 Mon, 4 Jun 01 23:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (Terry Porter)
Re: LINUX PRINTING SUCKS!!!!!!!! ("Paolo Ciambotti")
Re: Compiling Knews was: Linux beats Win2K (again) (Terry Porter)
Re: Linux on Itanium ("2 + 2")
Re: Compiling Knews was: Linux beats Win2K (again) (Terry Porter)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (Terry Porter)
Re: Compiling Knews was: Linux beats Win2K (again) (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Linux is shit (Terry Porter)
Re: LINUX PRINTING SUCKS!!!!!!!! (Terry Porter)
Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! ("Chad Myers")
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: LINUX PRINTING SUCKS!!!!!!!! (Dave Martel)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 05 Jun 2001 02:09:24 GMT
On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 09:57:30 +0100, drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 04 Jun 2001 03:34:19 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 01:30:01 +0100, drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> I've read the man pages and various howto's all the way through, and
>>> still there is no easy way of installing packages.
>>
>>Redhats RPM is not so hard, for most things, though I nearly always
>>compile the *.tar.gz apps I get, and I find this the easiest and most
>>reliable way for me.
>>
>>Get the tar.gzand have a read of the "INSTALL" file, follow it
>>as see how you go ?
>
> I've done that for a few things, but it's still an arse when it
> doesn't compile.
I agree, but after a while, you will find its just the same old things
stopping compilation, and besides, most source compiles without fuss
these days, with the 'configure' app finding out if its BSD, Solaris,Linux
etc.
>
>>> Compare that to
>>> Windows' simple setup.exe type install, no dependencies, nothing, it
>>
>>Sure it seems simple, and in many ways it is, until things go wrong!
>
> Things can go wrong with windows or linux programs. But with windows
> you've not spent as long getting all the components and setting it up,
> so there's less lost.
Not necessilary, sometimes Windows installs replace dll's with incompatible
versions, rendering your Windows pc, in a *re-install* mode. This has never
happened to me with Linux.
>
>>> just installs, and you don't even have to be root.
>>
>>Thats because under Windows, *everyone* has root status, including your
>>3 year old nephew whos just deleted all your files! ;-)
>
> Yeah, but as windows is so restrictive and the UI is so crippled, so
True:)
> can give anyone root status and they'll still find it hard to touch
> anything.
I'm not so sure about that, never underestimate kids!
> Unless of course it's a virus you've just downloaded.
There are the odd Windows virii floating about yeah ;-)
>
>>Easy ways to be root under Linux include using the "sudo" package or
>>just typing 'su" and the root password in a Xterm, installing the
>>package (I install in /usr/local/src/) then killing that xterm.
>
> Nah, I prefer the full screen console. Especially for playing nethack
> and dopewars.
Yeah Nethack is cool, have you tried 'adom'?
--
Kind Regards
Terry
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From: "Paolo Ciambotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX PRINTING SUCKS!!!!!!!!
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:16:26 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "flatfish+++"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How does one go about conjuring up a properly configured Linux print
> system?
>
> Under Windows I plug the beast in and it works.
Err, ummm... no it doesn't. I just did that not too long ago; I bought a
used color printer from a coworker and when I plugged it in, Windoze
wanted a CD that I didn't have. I call coworker, he recommends that I
just download what I need from their webserver. So I go to the manuf's
website, and download the driver. A half hour later (why is a printer
driver 4 frigging megabytes?) , I finally drill down to the obscure hiding
place in Windoze where printers get added. I try to install it, but it
warns that I shouldn't install a new printer until I uninstall the old
printer. Two reboots later, the old printer is gone. On the last reboot,
I get the message "windoze has found new hardware" so I say "yes", install
the damned thing. It wants to know where the driver is, so I browse to
the directory where I downloaded and unzipped the beast. Except it can't
find the f***ing driver; it claims there are no drivers in that directory.
Something about a missing ".inf" file or something like that, but whatever
it is, there's one in there, so I'm not sure what the complaint really is.
Monday, I corner my coworker and ask if he still has the CD for the
printer. He finally remembers to bring it in to me on Wednesday. I click
"yes" on the next reboot, and it installs all kinds of crap that I don't
need, but at least it installs the printer. I spend the next two evenings
uninstalling shitware that keeps wanting to go to the printer manuf's
website to check for new drivers. I refuse to setup Windoze networking
for my dialup and I was tired of clicking "cancel" everytime that stupid
thing woke up, which was constantly. Now I know why it was 4 megabytes.
Total elapsed time to install a printer under Windoze.... six days.
> Under Linux?
I boot up RedHat, and get the message "new hardware was found; install
now, install next time, install never?"* I choose "now". No reboot. No
CD. Happily, all my apps are already setup to use the passthru postscript
printer so I don't have to touch anything else. It all just works.
Total elapsed time... 2 seconds.
*it happened so quick I'm not sure that was the exact message, but it was
pretty damned close.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Compiling Knews was: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 05 Jun 2001 02:14:41 GMT
On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 15:30:50 GMT, flatfish+++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 04 Jun 2001 06:07:30 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
> wrote:
>
>
>>14:34 ... d/l Knews
>>14:37 ...
>>set options (news server etc), and compile the source
>>14:51 ...
>>error main.c:138 parse error before '/'
>>oops I didnt remove the "*/" at the end of one config line!
>>fix it
>
> At which point the average newbie takes knews and moves it right into
> the trash can and comes on COLA and screams about how much Linux
> sucks.
>
> Another Linux user is lost and another Winvocate is born and the
> process continues on.
>
Ahh the old Wintroll spin!
I have tried to set up *two* Windows users, over the phone, to install
and configure Free Agent. Both failed miserably at the configure stage,
and every Linux advocate knows why.
"Steve,Mike,Heather,Simon,teknite,keymaster,keys88,Sewer Rat,
S,Sponge,Sarek,piddy,McSwain,pickle_pete,Ishmeal_hafizi,Amy,
Simon777,Claire,Flatfish+++,Flatfish"
.. however will wonder why they couldn't configure it.
With Linux, I could have installed Knews, and configured it for them remotely
over the net. Furthermoreit wouldnt have taken me any longer than it did here.
By the way, this is the first time I've ever seen Knews.
--
Kind Regards
Terry
--
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From: "2 + 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: Linux on Itanium
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:25:22 -0400
Sun is the high end market.
Linux is a mass market phenomenon with a very widespread following.
For instance, Linux is popular among researchers and scientists where
Itanium's fabulous floating point benchmark, which is competitive or beats
the Alpha as leader on the SPECfp2000.
2 + 2
ca wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>New hardware, new instruction set, new compilers, newly compiled OS,
>re-compile all your apps, shake out stability bugs.
>
>versus Sun
>
>same architecture, everything runs "as is" even Solaris 1 applications,
>excellent servers, no recompilations, etc...
>
>2 + 2 wrote:
>>
>> "Intel has teamed with Linux vendors to bring the open source OS to the
new
>> chip. And those vendors are eager to raise Linux to a high-performance
>> platform. "We now have a chance to offer Linux as a first-class operating
>> system across the whole spectrum, from embedded applications to the
>> enterprise," said Michael Tiemann, chief technical officer at Red Hat.
Intel
>> was one of the first equity investors in Red Hat in 1998.
>> http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/stories/news/0,4164,2768445,00.html
>>
>> Intel knows a mass market when they see one.
>>
>> 2 + 2
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Compiling Knews was: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 05 Jun 2001 02:19:19 GMT
On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 17:33:10 GMT, flatfish+++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 10:51:40 -0700, Michael Vester
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>Linux users don't have to do all that. My Dad (64 year old retired
>>engineer) is happily running Suse 7.1. His old losdos setup had to be
>>reformatted and reinstalled many times for many reasons like virii
>>infection and OS rot. He required my help to reinstall losedos, not an
>>easy task for any newbie. So, I talked him into Linux. He is very happy
>>with the stable platform. The Suse distribution contained all the
>>applications he needed. No compiling was required. Yes, the process
>>continues on.
>
> Until he decides to update something and starts running in to library
> problems
Easily resolved.
> or because the rpm won't work
Most RPM's work, just like *most* InstallShield's for Windows work.
> he tries compiling from source
Thats easily done,
1/ run 'configure'
2/ 'make'
3/ 'make install'
Three commands in a CLI, its easy as.
> and so forth.
>
> If nothing ever changes on the system and it suits his needs of course
> he shouldn't have problems.
Hey this is Linux, it wont 'detect new hardware' at power up like Windows does,
hardware that was never 'new' but present from the original install, LOL!
>
> Most people can drive a car after it is already built, but give them a
> pile of parts and a stack of How-To's and ask them to build it, or add
> an air conditioning unit after the car is already built (by someone
> else) and they will be in trouble.
Of course, so get Linux pre-installed, and if you can't, write the
Justice Department.
--
Kind Regards
Terry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 05 Jun 2001 02:20:27 GMT
On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 09:57:31 +0100, drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 04 Jun 2001 03:35:15 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)) wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 19:12:39 +0100, drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 18:03:11 +0100, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>
>>>>> I have changed my name.
>>>>
>>>>Are you rotten186?
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>
>>So don't keep us guessing please :)
>>
>>Who were you ?
>
> I can't remember, but I only posted for a few weeks last time, so you
> probably won't remember me.
Fair enough, welcome back to COLA :)
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Kind Regards
Terry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: Compiling Knews was: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 02:28:07 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, flatfish+++ wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 00:02:55 +0100, drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 17:33:10 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>> (flatfish+++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 10:51:40 -0700, Michael Vester
>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Most people can drive a car after it is already built, but give them a
>>>pile of parts and a stack of How-To's and ask them to build it, or add
>>>an air conditioning unit after the car is already built (by someone
>>>else) and they will be in trouble.
>>
>>Your point?
>
>An end user put in front of an already set up Linux system will not
>have too much difficulty in performing ordinary tasks (WP, web
>browsing, playing CD's etc).
>
>It is when that person decides he wants to add new programs, features,
>upgrades, hardware etc that the entire thing falls apart.
>
Ah now wait a minute Flatfish.
You've been telling people for months now that Linux is
a peice of shit and won't even install on your machine.
Now you've decided it's okay to say it works?
What?
--
Charlie
=======
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Linux is shit
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 05 Jun 2001 02:28:34 GMT
On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 15:03:49 +0100, Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> $70 PS laser printer? Wow! is it any good?
>>
>> Yep, its second hand of course!
>>
>> I bought 4 in total, this one has printed about 50,000 pages but has 8
>> megs ram and understands postscript, pcl, hpgl, and text.
>>
>
><font color=green>
>
> blimey.
>
> Cool printer. What resolution does it do?
Only 600*600 ;-)
and at 10 pages a minute.
Theyre an old printer Ed, also known as a Gestetner GLL1000
in Australia, they have the option of a plug in Postscript
module (I have 3) and additional ram.
They have a LCD display and 8 menu buttons on the front, top or
front paper output, front loading paper tray, and envelope facility.
Toner cartridges include the drum and are avail new or re furbished
($150 aus) and will do 7000 to 9000 pages.
I bet you could find then secondhand in the UK. Mine were purchased
from a guy who bought 25 at an auction. The previous owner was a mining
company.
>
></font>
>
> -Ed
>
>
>
> --
> (You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.) (u98ejr)(@)(ecs.ox)(.ac.uk)
>
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Kind Regards
Terry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: LINUX PRINTING SUCKS!!!!!!!!
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 05 Jun 2001 02:32:03 GMT
On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:18:25 -0400,
Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I like the 1500 hits that come up on a Google search of:
>>
>> font+deuglification.
>>
>
> You get 10 pages of hitsif you search for windows+crash.
>
> flatfish+ugly comes up with 10 pages of hits too and so do flatfish+gay and
> flatfish+toss.
>
> flatfish+arse comes up with 3 pages of hits.
>
Hahahahah LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Poor old ...
"Steve,Mike,Heather,Simon,teknite,keymaster,keys88,Sewer Rat,
S,Sponge,Sarek,piddy,McSwain,pickle_pete,Ishmeal_hafizi,Amy,
Simon777,Claire,Flatfish+++,Flatfish"
!!!
>
> Before you point out the lack of relevence of these searches how many of
> the hits found by your search are actually relevent to linux?
>
>
>
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Kind Regards
Terry
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 02:33:52 GMT
"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:04:58 -0500, Chad Myers
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Deviding a 6GB hard disk into itty-bitty 500MB or less segments seems
> > retarded.
>
> What's retarded is having to restore all of your user data because you
> reinstalled the OS. F'rinstance, I often put /home and /usr/local on
> separate partitions so as to save hassle when upgrading.
Like I said, I'm sure it makes sense on multiuser systems, but this is
basically just a DB server and a test one at that =)
> > If this was a large server with many users shelling into it, I can
> > see how that is important, but this is a test server running an Oracle
> > database which isn't hit heavily, so I have no use for fancy partitioning
> > that only serves to chip away and the scant space I have available.
>
> Well, you could put that DB on a separate partition. That way the
> retarded admin will have one less thing to reinstall when he next hoses
> up his box.
But it was oracle that screwed up the root partition in the first place
(well, Netscape technically...)
-c
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 22:54:13 -0400
chrisv wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> >But when you bow, make sure you're _facing_ him. Don't want to bend
> >over with your back to him, after all. Might be more than he can
> >resist.
>
> I have a theory, and I'm sure I'm not alone, that the people who claim
> to be the most repelled by certain activities, are the people with
> inner conflicts regarding these same activities.
The unstated premise here is that I have an "inner conflict", which is
false, as I will demonstrate in the next paragraph:
If I object to, and repelled by, someone who dumps poison in the food of
other people sitting at the table, is that supposed to indicate that I
have some "inner conflict" or is it my RATIONAL recognition that this
person is a clear and present danger to EVERYBODY he comes into contact with.
The slothful-gluttons of NAAFA and soc.support.fat-acceptance are
eating themselves to an early demise...and encourage others to join them
in their self-destructive ways. They use all kinds of excuses ("I can't
help it," "It's in my genes," "I was abused as a child") NONE of which
changes the fact that their gluttonous eating habits are nothing more
than slow-motion suicide.
Thus, they are RIGHTFULLY chastised for telling their DEADLY lies to
encourage others to follow down the same path to misery and early death.
Likewise, male homosexuals similarly engage in behavior which is VERY
WELL DOCUMENTED to lower thier own life expectancy. However, to make
matters even worse, the disease they contract makes them more susceptible
to OTHER highly communicable diseases which are also life threatening
(Hepatitis, Tuberculosis, etc.).
Thus, while the Obesity-self-acceptors are a nuisance and public
eyesores, they constitute a _direct_ health hazard only to themselves;
Conversely those who engage in male homosexuality are a
_direct_ health hazard not only to themselves, but everybody who
they come into contact...because even though HIV is not highly
communicable (in fact, you pretty much have to *work* at getting
it), the same can NOT be said of the HIGHLY COMMUNICABLE diseases
such as Hepatitis and TB.
now....kindly REFRAIN from all acts which make you a walking public
health threat, and DISCOURAGE everyone else from same.
Hope that helps.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 22:54:30 -0400
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "chrisv"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >
> >>But when you bow, make sure you're _facing_ him. Don't want to bend
> >>over with your back to him, after all. Might be more than he can
> >>resist.
> >
> > I have a theory, and I'm sure I'm not alone, that the people who claim
> > to be the most repelled by certain activities, are the people with inner
> > conflicts regarding these same activities.
>
> I believe it's a quite common theory: those that have an inner conflict
> have most to fear.
The unstated premise here is that I have an "inner conflict", which is
false, as I will demonstrate in the next paragraph:
If I object to, and repelled by, someone who dumps poison in the food of
other people sitting at the table, is that supposed to indicate that I
have some "inner conflict" or is it my RATIONAL recognition that this
person is a clear and present danger to EVERYBODY he comes into contact with.
The slothful-gluttons of NAAFA and soc.support.fat-acceptance are
eating themselves to an early demise...and encourage others to join them
in their self-destructive ways. They use all kinds of excuses ("I can't
help it," "It's in my genes," "I was abused as a child") NONE of which
changes the fact that their gluttonous eating habits are nothing more
than slow-motion suicide.
Thus, they are RIGHTFULLY chastised for telling their DEADLY lies to
encourage others to follow down the same path to misery and early death.
Likewise, male homosexuals similarly engage in behavior which is VERY
WELL DOCUMENTED to lower thier own life expectancy. However, to make
matters even worse, the disease they contract makes them more susceptible
to OTHER highly communicable diseases which are also life threatening
(Hepatitis, Tuberculosis, etc.).
Thus, while the Obesity-self-acceptors are a nuisance and public
eyesores, they constitute a _direct_ health hazard only to themselves;
Conversely those who engage in male homosexuality are a
_direct_ health hazard not only to themselves, but everybody who
they come into contact...because even though HIV is not highly
communicable (in fact, you pretty much have to *work* at getting
it), the same can NOT be said of the HIGHLY COMMUNICABLE diseases
such as Hepatitis and TB.
now....kindly REFRAIN from all acts which make you a walking public
health threat, and DISCOURAGE everyone else from same.
Hope that helps.
>
> --Ed
>
> --
> (You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.) (u98ejr)(@)(ecs.ox)(.ac.uk)
>
> /d{def}def/f{/Times-Roman findfont s scalefont setfont}d/s{10}d/r{roll}d f 5 -1
> r 230 350 moveto 0 1 179{2 1 r dup show 2 1 r 88 rotate 4 mul 0 rmoveto}for/s 15
> d f pop 240 420 moveto 0 1 3 {4 2 1 r sub -1 r show}for showpage
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX PRINTING SUCKS!!!!!!!!
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 21:05:31 -0600
On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:16:26 -0700, "Paolo Ciambotti"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Monday, I corner my coworker and ask if he still has the CD for the
>printer. He finally remembers to bring it in to me on Wednesday. I click
>"yes" on the next reboot, and it installs all kinds of crap that I don't
>need, but at least it installs the printer. I spend the next two evenings
>uninstalling shitware that keeps wanting to go to the printer manuf's
>website to check for new drivers. I refuse to setup Windoze networking
>for my dialup and I was tired of clicking "cancel" everytime that stupid
>thing woke up, which was constantly. Now I know why it was 4 megabytes.
Somewhere in there is another reply to MS's continuing attacks on
open-source: Closed source is a "cancer on privacy". I can't hardly
install a Windows driver, game, or even an application without having
my firewall catch some hidden attempt at communications.
Strangely, my systems running 100% open-source software don't have
spyware problems.
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