Linux-Advocacy Digest #44, Volume #35             Fri, 8 Jun 01 06:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: UI Importance ("Stuart Fox")
  Re: UI Importance ("Stuart Fox")
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
  [ANN] The static error analyser Wasp 3.0 is released for Linux. (Denis Perchine)
  Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux  starts    getting 
good, Microsoft buries it in  the       dust!) ("David Brown")
  Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Mig)
  Re: Linux is shit ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: The usual Linux spiel... (was Re: Is Open Source for You?) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! ("Ayende Rahien")
  Re: UI Importance ("Ayende Rahien")

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 04:35:43 -0400

drsquare wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:01:47 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>  ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> 
> >The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> 
> >> >> Homosexual people often claim that. For instance Chronos Tachyon claims
> >> >> that he had no choice what so ever. I expect there are varying degrees of
> >> >> choice avaliable depending on the person. Also, using myself as an
> >> >
> >> >So, you admit that it's a defect.
> >>
> >> What governmental policies would be required to deal with this "defect"?
> >>
> >
> >it's not the defect itself that is the problem, it's the BEHAVIOR
> >
> >BEHAVIOR
> >BEHAVIOR
> >BEHAVIOR.
> >
> >Is any of this getting through to you?
> 
> The only thing getting through to ME is that you're a completely
> backwards right-wing nut. You're probably getting pissed off right now
> that Hague's men are taking a good battering. Oh, wait a minute,
> you're American aren't you? What's the American equiv. of the Tories?


There are three types of homosexuals:

a) those who have AIDS
b) those who will get AIDS
c) those who will get die before they get a chance to get AIDS.




-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 04:37:07 -0400

drsquare wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:29:33 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>  ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> 
> >The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> 
> >> >> Will I? How am I going to find this?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >US Centers for Disease Control has the epidemiology of Hepatits
> >> >very well documented.
> >>
> >> But we apparently can't trust this government agency to report
> >> transmission methods of AIDS properly.
> >
> >And the basis for your claim is.....what, exactly
> 
> This agency is probably full of conservative rightwing bigots. Like
> you.

Translation: I, dr.square, have been reduced to ad hominem attacks.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 04:37:55 -0400

drsquare wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 15:02:14 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>  ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> 
> >The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> >> - government-mandated taking from the rich and giving to the poor,
> >>   "rich" and "poor" being defined by sightly idiosyncratic government
> >>   procedures?
> >> - dying on the street because of no home, food, and money?
> >> - dying on the street because some bozo plays "shoot the target"?
> >>
> >> And, more to the point, which of these allegedly disgusting scourges
> >> should the government or citizenry (ideally, both!) attempt to
> >> spend money, energy, or other resources to eradicate, first?
> >
> >
> >They're ALL disgusting.
> 
> All?

Ok, I'll give an exemption for worthless people dying in the street.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI Importance
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:29:45 +1200


"drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:15:30 +0200, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> >
> >And are they up to the standards of Windows documentation?
>
> Actually, I don't see the point in porting any shells to windows.
> Windows is a GUI orientated OS, and there's not a lot you can do from
> the command line apart from launching things and basic file
> manipulation.

Have you actually used Windows?  You can do practically anything from the
command line.



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From: "Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI Importance
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:42:20 +1200


"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Stuart Fox in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:00:13
> >"drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:44:43 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>
> >Windows GUI is as good or as
> >bad as the tools you run in it.
>
> Then it isn't any good, obviously.

Guess Perl must be shit then?  Or grep?  Or gawk?  Or sed?  Yep, they're all
useless tools aren't they?


>
> >Bash is almost completely useless without
> >all the little tools and utils that you need to run it, same applies to
> >cmd.exe
>
> Hardly.  Bash is enormously more capable than command.com or cmd.exe.
> Always has been, always.  You sound as stupid as Chad Myers when you say
> something like this.

I'd like to see a few examples of what you can do with bash without using
any other programs.  Out of a natural curiousity and a desire to learn.  Of
course, you do seem to enjoy "teaching people a lesson", so this should be
fun for you  :)


>
> Sure, the large expanse of conventional Unix tools are important.  But
> then, it isn't like cmd.exe is any different.

Exactly - like I say, your shell is mostly limited by the tools you can use
in it.

>
> >Give me an example of how it's crippled?
>
> No korne, bourne, OR c shell syntax support.

So it sucks because it isn't Unix?

> It finally has tab
> completion,

What do you mean finally?  Since 1996?

> but it still fucks up how more should work.  No c shell
> "bang" history syntax support, either.

Not familiar with this sorry, can't offer a comment.




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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:01:25 +0200

T. Max Devlin wrote:
> 
> I would be very interested in knowing how this is going.  I will point
> out that Scandinavia is rather socialist, so it doesn't have to be
> efficient to run a big ISP on a mainframe for them to do it with some
> success.  On the balance, I would guess this is just a stupid idea by
> silly people with no regard for fiscal responsibility.
> 
As usual, Max canīt admit that he was wrong.
The stuff you wrote is just complete BS to the extreme.

Peter

-- 
If Windows is the answer then it probably has been a stupid question


------------------------------

From: Denis Perchine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [ANN] The static error analyser Wasp 3.0 is released for Linux.
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 16:12:54 +0700

SUBJECT

     The static error analyser Wasp 3.0 is released for Linux.

URL

      http://www.waspsoft.com/

WHAT IS NEW IN Wasp 3.0

  -  This is the first Wasp version for Linux.
     Previous Wasp versions were released for Windows 95/NT, OS/2,
     and SunSparc for Java and Modula-2 programs.

  -  Wasp 3.0 for Java is an order of magnitude faster
     than previous Wasp version 2.11.
     Memory consumption reduced by a factor of 5.

  -  User interface simplified.
     Wasp manual considerably extended and modified.

  -  Wasp strategy for big programs developed.

  -  Wasp now can use memory above 930Mb limit (or brk limit)

  -  Support for files more than 2Gb added for kernels which support
     LFS interface (2.3.x, 2.4.x, 2.2.x with LFS patches, SuSE,
     RedHat Enterprise Edition).

WHAT TO EXPECT NEXT

     Wasp 3.0 for Windows 98/NT/2000 will be released shortly.

DESCRIPTION

  The static error checker Wasp employs powerful data flow analysis
to detect subtle run-time errors and weak points in Java, Modula-2,
and Oberon-2 programs.

  Some types of erroneous situations that Wasp is able to detect
in Java programs are listed below:
   -  usage of an uninitialised variable
   -  null pointer exception
   -  assignment of a variable whose value is never used
   -  impermissible cast of variable value of reference type
   -  unreachable branches in the if and switch statements and
        in conditional expressions
   -  unreachable catch clauses
   -  method has no normal completion
   -  array index is out of bounds
   -  overflow (underflow) in arithmetic operators
   -  division by zero
   -  for or while statement repeats zero times
   -  etc.

   For more information, please visit Wasp Home Page at:

         http://www.waspsoft.com/

   Lite version of Wasp 3.0 may be downloaded.

========================================================================

   Wasp team
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   AcademSoft
   Novosibirsk, Russia

------------------------------

From: "David Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux  starts    
getting good, Microsoft buries it in  the       dust!)
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:06:57 +0200


T. Max Devlin wrote in message ...
>
>We happen to have one of the best records ever made, dickweed.  Sure,
>the French and the English (note the order, limey) were instrumental,
>but then so were the ancient Greeks.  The USA pretty much provided the
>template for the modern sensibility of fundamental human rights, though,
>and Americans are and rightly should be very proud of the fact.
>
>
>That our record is not very good at all is a testament to the importance
>of the fight, not any indication of losing ground or lack of
>righteousness in the cause.
>

The fight is certainly important, and the USA has definitely helped improve
the world in some areas.  But it has also made some incredible mistakes, and
shown an arrogance that astounds even seasoned a.d.m.'ers.  The US has
annointed itself big brother and policeman to the world - sometimes other
countries ask for help, and sometimes they get it.  But they also have a
habit of butting in where they are not invited, and causing more harm than
good.  I suppose most countries are like that - it is just that with the US
being the biggest (in terms of power), its actions speak the loudest, and it
is the US who should be taking leadership in showing the rest of the world
how to play fair, rather than being the schoolyard bully.






------------------------------

From: Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:13:31 +0200

Dan wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> More micro$oft "customer service":
>> 
>> http://public.wsj.com/sn/y/SB991862595554629527.html
> 
> Sounds like a nice idea to me, and doesn't "change Web pages" as the
> (paranoid?) author of the article claims.

Yes it does.. it alters the information you access.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is shit
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 05:17:36 -0400

Edward Rosten wrote:
> 
> >> How do you get the ink in?
> >>
> >> A hypodermic syringe?
> >
> > Yep, just place sticky tape over the cartridge nozzels, then insert
> > needle into cartridge breather hole, fill up 1/2 way first time to test.
> >
> > Dont forget to remove sticky tape, remember the new carts come with a
> > sticky seal over the nozzels too, and this is removed before use.
> >
> > The nozzels are normally blocked bu a rubber stopper when the cartridge
> > is in its "park" position in the printer, and depending on the ink, if
> > the head isnt parked or printing, it could drip some ink.
> >
> > Other variations are red or blue ink, or even DrSquare's blood ;-)
> 
> Heh! I was actually planing on filling it with some wierd and wonderful
> colour :-)
> 
> 
> > Actually I dislike ink-jets immensely, especially the piezo types, which
> > attempt to use the piezo section for the life of the printer, DO NOT
> > attempt to refill with cheaper ink, its not worth it long term, when the
> > seals in the piezo fail due to the ink, and your $1180 Epson Stylus is
> > just a pile of junk :(
> 
> I assumed this happend to you? Similar thing happend in my college. They
> got a big color inkjet for students to use, but the combination of being
> left for 2 months and then used heavily for 2 months meant the heads had
> to be replaced very often which cost a fortune. Not they have a HP4550 (a
> colour laser printer).
> 
> > However the HP500 and its ilk, are a safe use for cheap ink, as the head
> > is replaced every time the ink is replaced.
> 
> Misers of the world rejoice!
> 
> > Moreover, the mechanical design of the HP500 is *solid*, just look at
> > the lightweight designs of modern inkjets or lasers!
> 
> Sadly, old age and a past life of heavy use (free ex company model) have
> taken its toll and it has a bit of problem picking up paper these days.
> That said, I  think I can fix the problem.

replace the rubber pickup-rollers.


> 
> 
> > Chorus: Cheap and nasty, cheap and nasty ....
> 
> Yep, there are some nasty printers out there. The HP930 seem to be OK,
> though and works well under Linux.
> 
> -Ed
> 
-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The usual Linux spiel... (was Re: Is Open Source for You?)
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 05:19:20 -0400

GreyCloud wrote:
> 
> Stephen Edwards wrote:
> >
> > Seven rabid koala bears with eucalyptus spittle dribbling from their
> > mouths told me that [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GreyCloud) wrote in
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > >Stephen Edwards wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Seven rabid koala bears with eucalyptus spittle dribbling from their
> > >> mouths told me that [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GreyCloud) wrote in
> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >>
> > >> >Jan Johanson wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >> et. ..
> > >> >> > "Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
> > >> >> > > Besides, If you had the kind of experience with UNIX
> > >> >> > > that you seem to pretend to have, you'd understand
> > >> >> > > why the Linux kernel is completely substandard.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Then you better tell the CEO of IBM that Linux is substandard
> > >> >> > because they just dumped an awful lot of money into getting linux
> > >> >> > to run on their mainframes. :-)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Oh, I see, so Linux=good because a lot of money was spent modifying
> > >> >> it to run on some once-upon-a-time-evil-empire's hardware?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> So, the $2 billion in R&D MS spends yearly on Windows, being
> > >> >> greater than the <$1 billion IBM has spent pretty much helps
> > >> >> confirm that Windows>Linux - is that what you meant?
> > >> >
> > >> >Not at all.  IBM is more efficient than microsoft and I know quite a
> > >> >few of their employees... gawd I sure wouldn't want to get under an
> > >> >MRI made by Microsoft!
> > >>
> > >> Begging your pardon, but where did you ever get
> > >> the idea that a coporate organization with IBM's
> > >> overhead is "more efficient" than Microsoft.
> >
> > >Easy, first they are taking a product (linux) and then refining for the
> > >mainframes instead of taking it from the ground up... I consider that
> > >very efficient.
> >
> > No, that's not efficiency.  Assuming that the scenario
> > which you are describing is true, it's awfully similar
> > to why they used an open architecture for their original
> > IBM PC.  They know that it would take years if they were
> > to do it right, so they've decided to do it quickly
> > instead.
> >
> > In other words, they are taking jagged shortcuts to
> > avoid their own overhead.  That is NOT efficiency.
> >
> > >> Microsoft is significantly smaller (infrastructure-
> > >> wise) than IBM, and I cannot see how this is possible
> > >> in any way.
> > >
> > >Note that many writers for various publications take note in the premise
> > >that microsoft products "Weren't invented here". No real inside
> > >innovations.  Also the fact that IBM makes more than just computers
> > >which in turn makes it a larger company.
> >
> > Irrelevant, and not necessarily completely factual.
> 
> I won't argue with you.  But who makes MRI equipment besides IBM and GE?
> I don't think MS has the resources or the know how to do it.  The point
> is is that it takes a cooperated effort among industrial giants to get
> hardware that is high tech built.  Look at Intel... do you honestly
> think they make everything themselves when manufacturing chips?  MS is a
> unique company that primarily markets O/S and software.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

you mispelled "dysfunctional, criminal enterprise"


> 
> --
> V


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:16:47 +0200


"Terry Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 06:26:18 +0200, Ayende Rahien <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > "Terry Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> >> Max could easily be running Agent under Wine for Linux, and you wouldnt
> >> know. He could have modified his headers.
> >>
> >> But hes using Windows, and Agent, so what ?
> >
> > I recall him bragging about getting Linux with a new machine some time
ago.
> > What happened to it?
> >
> >
>
> How would I know ?
>
> Why would I care, a Linux advocate is a Linux advocate to me, whatever OS
> they use. Some Linux advocates don't use Linux, and they don't have to.
>
> On the other hand, Some Wintrolls use Linux. Am I supposed to have so
> little ability to discern, that I can't tell the difference ?
>
> Wintrolls have often accused Linuxers of attacking anyone who uses
> Windows, because we *hate* Windows, but this has never been true.
>
> And this post is my proof.

Proof of what?
I was asking a question because considerring T. Max rabid hate for all
things MS, I wouldn't think that he would want to use Win* for anything.




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From: "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI Importance
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:18:50 +0200


"Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9fq376$1tun$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:15:30 +0200, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> > >
> > >And are they up to the standards of Windows documentation?
> >
> > Actually, I don't see the point in porting any shells to windows.
> > Windows is a GUI orientated OS, and there's not a lot you can do from
> > the command line apart from launching things and basic file
> > manipulation.
>
> Have you actually used Windows?  You can do practically anything from the
> command line.

Changing drivers would be nice, how do I do it from the CLI?




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