Linux-Advocacy Digest #47, Volume #35             Fri, 8 Jun 01 08:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Best Distribution? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: XP - what's for me? (Charlie Ebert)
  Re: IBM Goes Gay (Charlie Ebert)
  Re: IBM Goes Gay ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Argh - Ballmer ("Mart van de Wege")
  Re: IBM Goes Gay ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: IBM Goes Gay (Charlie Ebert)
  Re: Will MS get away with this one? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Will MS get away with this one? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Will MS get away with this one? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: UI Importance ("Mart van de Wege")
  Re: IBM Goes Gay (.)

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best Distribution?
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 07:53:40 -0400

drsquare wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 19:49:37 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>  ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine))
> wrote:
> 
> >In comp.os.linux.advocacy, drsquare
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >>Who the fuck puts postscript code in their sig?
> >
> >Some people put 3-line perl scripts in their .sig; same issue.
> >(In some cases with perl, though, it's a munition -- or was; the
> >3-line perl script is an encryption algorithm in violation
> >of ITAR or EAR or whatever it is now.  Hopefully the Bush
> >Administration has half a clue, here; Clinton finally got
> >it after 8 years, but it's distressing it took so long.  :-) )
> 
> In that case, I've got a 3 line perl script I'd like to show to
> kulkis:
> 
> while(1) {
>  print "FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!"
> }

Truth hurts, doesn't it, asshole.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: XP - what's for me?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 11:55:19 GMT

In article <erQT6.9053$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>"George P. Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:vLLT6.286954
>> > Nobody is spied upon.  The question is irrelevant because it's not
>> > true.
>>
>> You Do Not know that for sure any more than I do! Maybe you could
>> explain to the world including China what an NSAKEY__ is doing buried
>> in someMS OS update (Iforget the exact particulars on this).
>
>Then perhaps you should look them up before making claims about it.
>
>Here is one of the foremost and respected authorities in cryptography's take
>on it (Bruce Schneier):
>
>http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-9909.html#NSAKeyinMicrosoftCryptoAPI
>
>> You are basicaly trusting in the word of Microsoft here! Before I Trust
>> anybody's word  I like to check their record on honesty.. looking at
>> Judge Jackson's feelings after presiding over the antitrust trial Igot
>> the feeling hey Might be A smidgen better than Bill Clinton!
>
>Perhaps, but if MS is going to spy on you, they don't need activation to do
>it.  They have ample opportunity to add it to a service pack or Office or
>any other product.  Focusing on Activation as "spyware" is stupid, since MS,
>or any other company, wouldn't be so stupid as to add it's spying to such a
>controversial piece of software if it were to do it.
>
>> It's not surprising that a LOT of people  don't trust Microsoft,
>> astheir track record is really pretty piss poor.
>
>Except, as proven by you above, the vast majority of it is hearsay and
>inaccurate.
>

Until they tell you to delete the .dll to stop it.

-- 
Charlie
=======

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 11:56:44 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, flatfish+++ wrote:
>Folks, it's a sad day for IBM supporters because apparently they have
>succumbed to the gay pressure and are mobilizing to support this
>deviant lifestyle.
>
>A recent memo released to IBM employees includes such comments as:
>
>1. A "lunch and learn" roundtable on 6/6/01 at 590 Madison ave.
>2. How IBM plans to attract top gay and lesbian talent.
>3. The role of IBM's new, dedicated GLBT Sales and Talent team.
>
>The memo, which is not IBM Confidential of Internal BTW, goes on to
>quote the constitution concerning equal rights and freedom of
>expression and so forth.
>
>It also gives a contacts which I am leaving out of this post, but if
>you are interested email me.
>
>
>So what do ya'll think?
>
>I find it disgusting that IBM will give benefits to homo's living
>together as if they are married yet 2 heterosexual partners will not
>get the same benefits not that I believe in cohabitation before
>marriage, but you get the idea.
>
>
>I realize this is controversial, but I have my opinions and IBM and
>the rest of the earth has theirs.
>I'm not judging, just voicing an objection.
>
>Only God almighty has the power to judge and his judgement is swift
>and fast.
>
>
>
>
>
>flatfish+++
>"Why do they call it a flatfish?"

Does this mean you can work there now?


-- 
Charlie
=======

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 07:57:34 -0400

pip wrote:
> 
> flatfish+++ wrote:
> > [snip]
> 
> This thread really does have no place here.

deviancy effects EVERYONE.

> 
> Please!


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Argh - Ballmer
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:56:57 +0200

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Dan Pidcock"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 06:17:04 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>>Said Erik Funkenbusch in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun, 3 Jun 2001
>>>"Marc Schlensog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>   [...]
>>>> Of course they can. They can distribute modules for a certain non-GPL
>>>> proggie under the GPL license, can't they?
>>>
>>>No.  A module is just a dynamically linked object file, and the GPL
>>>specifically does not allow you to get around the GPL this way.
>>
>>You are mistaken, Erik.  A "module" is the object that is linked *to*.
>>You can distribute modules for non-GPL programs under the GPL, to your
>>heart's content.
> 
> That's as maybe, but can you distribute modules for GPLd programs not
> under the GPL?
> 
> Dan
> remove .hatespam to reply

I already tried to answer that with my post further up the thread. I may
try to clarify with an example:
The GIMP is a good graphics manipulation program, especially for
hobbyists. What is keeping it back for professional use is the lack of
color correction/separation features. The GIMP developers can't
incorporate those, as the pertinent algorithms are patented (for example
Pantone). Nothing prevents a company from developing a color correction
plugin for the GIMP and sell it, even if they sell it binary only.
HOWEVER, if this company decides to sell the GIMP along with this plugin,
and advertises the color correction abilities of their version of the
GIMP as core functionality, they must GPL their plugin.
This is exactly the way the GIMP works around the LZW patent. Legally in
the US the GIMP can't be distributed with GIF manipulation abilities
under the GPL, as the LZW patent would impose more restrictions on
redistribution than the GPL, and this is forbidden under the GPL. So the
GIF plugins are distributed seperately, from a server in Finland.
Hope this clarifies it a bit,

Mart

-- 
Gimme back my steel, gimme back my nerve
Gimme back my youth for the dead man's curve
For that icy feel when you start to swerve
        John Hiatt - What Do We Do Now

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 08:00:03 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>         flatfish+++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Folks, it's a sad day for IBM supporters because apparently they have
> > succumbed to the gay pressure and are mobilizing to support this
> > deviant lifestyle.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > So what do ya'll think?
> 
> You're a homophobe.

phobe = fear.

Did flathead express _fear_
a) yes
B) NO.


by the way, you're obviously a buggery advocate

> 
> > I find it disgusting that IBM will give benefits to homo's living
> > together as if they are married yet 2 heterosexual partners will not
> > get the same benefits not that I believe in cohabitation before
> > marriage, but you get the idea.
> 
> Yep, no doubt about it.

Yep, no doubt about it.


> 
> > Only God almighty has the power to judge and his judgement is swift
> > and fast.
> 
> And which god are you referring too? In India there are over 300 million
> gods. As for any god's 'power to judge and his judgement' being swift I
> have seen no evidence of this in my 50 years on this planet. Can you give
> some examples?

Obviously, you worship the god of butt-raping.


> 
> --
> Over 100 security bugs in Microsoft SW last year. An infamous
> record. The worst offending piece of SW, by far, IIS. 2001 isn't
> looking any better.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 11:59:58 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, flatfish+++ wrote:
>On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 00:37:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>
>>I think it's lousy when employers take a stand on this sort of thing,
>>one way or the other.  Where I work we have annual "sensivity
>>training."  They tell us that what we mean when we speak is irrelavant;
>>it's how our words make people feel that determines whether the
>>words are punishable. 
>
>I agree.
>
>I have several friends who work for IBM and they are quite upset about
>all of this.
>flatfish+++
>"Why do they call it a flatfish?"


Humm.  Yes, use Windows as they are not gay?

Microsoft, the straight laced good old church monopoly?

-- 
Charlie
=======

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Will MS get away with this one?
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 08:01:08 -0400

Rick wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > http://public.wsj.com/sn/y/SB991862595554629527.html
> >
> > --
> > Over 100 security bugs in Microsoft SW last year. An infamous
> > record. The worst offending piece of SW, by far, IIS. 2001 isn't
> > looking any better.
> 
> m$ will get away with it. They always have, they probably always will.

Where's Tim McVeigh when you need him?


> 
> --
> Rick


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Will MS get away with this one?
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 08:01:19 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> http://public.wsj.com/sn/y/SB991862595554629527.html
> 
> --
> Over 100 security bugs in Microsoft SW last year. An infamous
> record. The worst offending piece of SW, by far, IIS. 2001 isn't
> looking any better.

Where's Tim McVeigh when you need him?

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Will MS get away with this one?
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 08:01:51 -0400

Flacco wrote:
> 
> The editorial sums it up pretty well:
> 
> Microsoft's Internet Explorer Smart Tags are something new and
> dangerous. They mean that the company that controls the Web browser is
> using that power to actually alter others' Web sites to its own
> advantage. Microsoft has a perfect right to sell services. But by using
> its dominant software to do so, it will be tilting the playing field and
> threatening editorial integrity.

Where's Tim McVeigh when you need him?

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UI Importance
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:07:10 +0200
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy

In article <9fq377$1tun$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Stuart Fox"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

<snip>
> I'd like to see a few examples of what you can do with bash without
> using any other programs.  Out of a natural curiousity and a desire to
> learn.  Of course, you do seem to enjoy "teaching people a lesson", so
> this should be fun for you  :)
> 
<snip more>

'man builtins'

Sorry I can't provide more details, but it is a rather large manpage :)

Mart




-- 
Gimme back my steel, gimme back my nerve
Gimme back my youth for the dead man's curve
For that icy feel when you start to swerve
        John Hiatt - What Do We Do Now

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay
Date: 8 Jun 2001 12:08:59 GMT

Rotten168 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "." wrote:
>> 
>> Rotten168 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > "." wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Rotten168 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > "." wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> flatfish+++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> > On 8 Jun 2001 01:42:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>flatfish+++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 00:37:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>I think it's lousy when employers take a stand on this sort of thing,
>> >> >> >>>>one way or the other.  Where I work we have annual "sensivity
>> >> >> >>>>training."  They tell us that what we mean when we speak is irrelavant;
>> >> >> >>>>it's how our words make people feel that determines whether the
>> >> >> >>>>words are punishable.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> I agree.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> I have several friends who work for IBM and they are quite upset about
>> >> >> >>> all of this.
>> >> >> >>> To quote one male friend of mine:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> "I'd love to se their (IBM's) faces if I showed up wearing a mini
>> >> >> >>> skirt and pumps one day"
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>They wouldnt bat an eye, and if you actually did have a friend who worked
>> >> >> >>for IBM (which you dont, this is more than confirmable, as is your gender;
>> >> >> >>which is male, as is your age, which is older than you probably wish you
>> >> >> >>were, as is your identity, etc, etc, etc)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>IBM has the same policy about transsexuals.  Dipshit.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Call Renee Brown at 212-745-3626 and ask HER about IBM's gay and
>> >> >> > lesbian policy.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What ill do instead is call her and let her know that you just posted her
>> >> >> real name and phone number to usenet, accessable to the entire planet.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I cant wait to see what she says.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -----.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> "George Dubya Bush---the best presidency money can buy"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ---obviously some Godless commie heathen faggot bastard
>> >>
>> >> > Make sure you keep that .sig when if you email her.
>> >> > --
>> >> > - Brent
>> >>
>> >> It is useful to keep in mind that my sig file is *satire*.
>> >>
>> >> And the person whom I am quoting is quite brilliant, and not homophobic
>> >> in the least.
>> 
>> > Didn't you call someone a limey in a recent post? I suppose that's not
>> > as bad as being a homophobe, although I'm not sure why.
>> 
>> I might have.  I hate the english.

> Bah, the Brits aren't that bad, they just come off bad online.

I didnt say brits, I said english.  Brits are fine, as long as theyre scots.

:)




=====.

-- 
"George Dubya Bush---the best presidency money can buy"

---obviously some Godless commie heathen faggot bastard

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