Linux-Advocacy Digest #145, Volume #35 Tue, 12 Jun 01 01:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft (Dan Pop)
Re: Windows makes good coasters ("Christopher L. Estep")
Re: Linux dead on the desktop. ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Windows makes good coasters (Terry Porter)
Re: Why homosexuals are a threat to heterosexuals ("jet")
Re: Why homosexuals are a threat to Fred Cherry ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff? (James)
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals ("jet")
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff? (James)
Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags ("green")
NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 12 June 2001 The Linux Society: John van Vlaanderen on RAID
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Laugh, it's hilarious. ("Pinocchio Poppins")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Pop)
Crossposted-To: comp.arch,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft
Date: 12 Jun 2001 03:29:29 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maynard Handley) writes:
>In article <9fodg2$aeh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bill Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>I've been reading the followup to my message in bizarre amazement.
>Did no-one actually understand my point?
If nobody actually unserstood your point, in 99% of the cases it is
because it was poorly phrased. You talked about restoring the "user
environment" and this, in a Unix context, means the user's files and
applications installed in his home directory tree.
>And the Linux crowd don't seem to have anything useful to ad either beyond
>"Windows sux". I've not read anything that indicates the problem is better
>on Linux. I could believe that some parts of the problems are
>easier---presumably PER USER prefs files are limited in how far they can
>go. But a linux box used as a personal box---what about all the apps?
Any well behaved "third party" application on a Unix system should be
installed under /usr/local. Migrate this directory tree and you have
them all on the new box.
Less well behaved applications reside in their own directory tree,
usually under /usr. For them, you have to migrate those trees, too.
And the worst behaved applications drop their bits in /usr/bin, /usr/lib
/usr/man etc. It's easier to reinstall them from scratch.
>What about drivers installed after the OS?
Drivers aren't usually compatible between major OS releases, regardless
of the OS: Win95 drivers won't work on Win98 or W2k. So, if your old
Linux box was 4 years old, chances are that you'll need new drivers,
compatible with the current kernel. This is less of a problem than it
seems, because Linux distributions usually come with all the supported
drivers, compiled as loadable kernel modules. So, you only have to
migrate the boot-time script that loads the drivers you need.
>What about OS-wide prefs that you set?
I'm not sure what you mean by that. If it's kernel settings whose
default values you change in a boot-time script, you simply have to
migrate that script, too. This is quite an esotheric thing and few
actual users play with the kernel settings.
You also have to migrate a few other files from /etc: passwd, shadow
(if used), group. Not really needed if you're the only user, because
you can let the installation procedure create the entries for your
userid.
So, the user who could actually write those scripts in the first place
would have little difficulties migrating them to the new system.
I've done that many times and it was really easy. If you can have both
systems simultaneously connected to a LAN, it's a piece of cake.
Otherwise, you have to choose between using some backup media and
physically swapping the disk containing the /usr/local partition.
Dan
--
Dan Pop
CERN, IT Division
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail: CERN - IT, Bat. 31 1-014, CH-1211 Geneve 23, Switzerland
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From: "Christopher L. Estep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows makes good coasters
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:42:58 GMT
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:PFOU6.11502$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Hmm, Red Hat 7.0 didn't. Haven't tried 7.1, but I'm sure it's probably
> just more of the same. XConfigurator is worthless. It basically asks
> you questions in the same worthless cryptic terminology as the config
> file. It makes it slightly easier, but it doesn't solve the problem
> of whether I have a clock chip or what my V and H refresh rates on my
> monitor are. Windows seems to have no problem figuring this out,
> I don't understand why X does. Even when it does, it still doesn't
> look right. 1600x1200x72hz on my Dell 21" Trinitron looks great in
> Windows, but in Linux my brain about explodes from all the refresh
> lines and the "buzzed-out" look (for lack of a better term to describe
> it).
Chad, hate to tell you, but 7.1 *is* better. L-M 8 is better yet.
However, Radeon acceleration is *still* broken.
Christopher L. Estep
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:54:26 GMT
"Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9g1om3$qvo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:ccRU6.38128$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > The drive has been reformatted, so I can't check anything at this
> > point. The reason I couldn't delete the directory named PRN is
> > that it is a magic device name and NT (or any other version of
> > windows) normally won't let you do any file operations to it
> > regardless of the rest of the path. No one should have been able
> > to create that directory name even if they did have write permission
> > and the anon ftp user shouldn't have had write permission in the
> > first place.
>
> Yes, I know about PRN.
> But it's possible that the FTP server used an API which doesn't check for
> magic device names, which is how it created the directory.
> It might've been possible to delete it the same way, too.
>
> BTW, you can open & write to PRN, so some file operations are allowed.
You might think you are writing to a file named PRN because
you specified a path that was accepted by the open, but you
aren't really. Is there a hacker's kit somewhere that will
create a directory with that name?
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Windows makes good coasters
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 12 Jun 2001 04:03:05 GMT
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:33:19 GMT,
Christopher L. Estep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Whereby you can simply type "startx" to get going again. Meanwhile,
>> the Windows user has to restart the entire OS!!!!
>
> That depends on how bad X crashed.
?????
> In most *modern* cases, when X falls
> down, even "startx" won't get it going again
X doesn't fall down, you're thinking of Flatfish after hes had one
beer too many ;-)
If you mean X is flaky when used with a problem video
driver, then I agree.
If you mean X fails, then you are incorrect. In 4 years of using X
everyday, I have had it crash 4 times. All were IRC related.
Startx worked as usual in each case, with X popping up, like
nothing had happened.
In only *one* case was the Linux itself locked up, with remote
access also frozen. This was kernel 2.0.30 which is ancient (now)
and no longer used on networks.
> (notice that XFree86 V.4.x now
> has a Unified Server Architecture for accelerated hardware (and NVidia, in
> order to get their GeForce cards to run right, *had* to write a proprietary
> X server) with minidrivers, ala *DirectX* in MS Windows).
>
> Christopher L. Estep
>
>
>
--
Kind Regards from Terry
My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.
Free Micro burner: http://jsno.downunder.net.au/terry/
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From: "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are a threat to heterosexuals
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:08:10 -0700
Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9g3kh4$ac$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Hacker D." wrote:
> > >
> > > drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 09 Jun 2001 23:31:01 +0100, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> > > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > > >Have you been raped or something?
> > > >
> > > > No, his boyfriend's dumped him, that's all.
> > >
> > > Yeah, Bill Gates has very little time for personal relationships these
> > > days... Maybe he'll pump his idol, Dubya, up the ass a couple of
> > > times. I know one thing - W. Bush and Aaron both have approximately
> > > the same mental capabilities (the IQ of a brick).
> > >
> > > So Aaron, how does Dubya's semen taste?
> >
> > You tell us.
>
> Aaron to normal person translation:
>
> You tell us ---> "Rather salty, anyone else tried?"
I admit it, I laughed.
J
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are a threat to Fred Cherry
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:58:09 GMT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:28:20 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Steve Chaney) wrote:
>Health wise? You mean the myth that homosexual activity is the primary
>cause of the spread of AIDS? The myth that was destroyed when they studied
>what caused AIDS to spread in Africa
l
Young gay, bisexual men still spreading AIDS
WASHINGTON--The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is marking the
20th anniversary of its first published mortality report on what came to be
called AIDS.
The agency is releasing a new study involving infection patterns in six
cities which shows that infection rates continue to be the highest in young
gay and bisexual black men.
The research appears in Friday's edition of Morbidity and Mortality Weekly
Report, which published the first article on what came to be known as AIDS
on June 5, 1981.
The CDC studied the infection patterns of young gay men ages 23-29 in
Baltimore, Dallas, Los Angeles, Miami, New York City, Seattle from 1998-2000
and found overall in the study the rate of new infections in this group was
4.4 percent: 2.5 percent among whites, 3.5 percent among Hispanics, and 14.7
percent among African Americans.
Dr. Helene Gayle of the CDC said, the rate of new infections in black men in
this category is "about five times higher than for whites and approximately
four times higher than Latino men in this population." The 14.7 percent,
researchers explained, means 100 of these men would start a year uninfected
but by the end of the year 15 of them would have HIV. Gayle said, "Young gay
and bisexual men are at the highest risk for HIV in this country."
The researchers stressed the sample size of the study was small, 2,942 young
men who were gay or bisexual. So, while this showed the trend in each city,
it cannot be extrapolated to a nationwide trend. Domestically, the CDC says
although the epidemic started in white gay men and intravenous drug users,
today it's African American men and women, and Latinos who are hit
disproportionately hard. Currently there are between 800,000 and 900,000
Americans living with HIV, and the CDC estimates nearly a third of them
(300,000) don't even know they are infected. Almost 450,000 Americans have
died of AIDS and every year an estimated 40,000 more are infected.
The number of new infections has been level at 40,000 for several years so
the CDC is launching a new prevention campaign aimed at reaching those
already infected and challenging others to find out their status. The
thinking is those who know they are HIV infected will be more likely to take
precautions necessary to keep their partners from getting infected.
The CDC's goal for the prevention program is to cut new infections by half
in the next five years.
http://dailynews.netscape.com/dailynews/cnnnews.tmpl?story=cdc.aids05311113.htm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James)
Subject: Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:13:28 GMT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:40:21 +0200, "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Or vice versa, if you get down to it.
>It's a matter what you are more comportable with.
>It's not fun to do OO in C. I've never tried to do low level stuff in C++,
>but <reinterapt_cast> (misspelled, probably) is not an encouraging concept.
reinterpret_cast is the same as 'C' style cast...are you saying C
programmer never cast from one type to another? it's just
different syntax....makes code look purdy..hehe
>There is one reason to choose C over C++.
>You can use C functions with *everything*, there isn't a language that
>doesn't have C binding.
>There are plenty that doesn't have C++ binding.
If you are given a table of function pointers, and those pointers
point to regular ol' C style functions...can you call one of
those functions frome any other programming language?
Yes, you can, and that's all the C++ bindings you need...
Yeah, I know, C++ uses different calling conventions then
C....but still, this is not rocket science.
James
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From: "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:16:14 -0700
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Jet wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > mlw wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Ray Fischer
> > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > wrote
> > > > > > > on Wed, 16 May 2001 22:30:16 GMT
> > > > > > > <9duuvt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > > >Robert W Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>And where is your evidence that people have no choice over
their homosexual
> > > > > > > >>behavior?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Yeah! You could choose to be interested in men so it's
obvious that
> > > > > > > >homosexuals could choose to be interested in women.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Right?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One could mimic such behavior to avoid detection; such has
been done
> > > > > > > in the past, as I understand it -- even to the point of a
> > > > > > > loveless, or at least sexless, marriage.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This no more makes the homosexual a het, anymore than a woolen
overcoat
> > > > > > > makes a wolf a sheep.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What part of "IT's the BEHAVIOR(*)," do you not understand?????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (*) not the desire
> > > > >
> > > > > Normally I would not even touch such a string of posts. What two
adults do in
> > > > > privacy is no ones business. Who gives a flying fl&^%k what two
people do
> > > > > together? Seriously what does it matter?
> > > >
> > > > When two adults spread communicable diseases like Hepatitis and
Tuberculosis,
> > > > it is a matter of PUBLIC HEALTH and is EVERYBODY's business.
> > > >
> > > EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE FUCK SEXUALITY HAS TO DO WITH T.B.?
> > > AND I WANT TO SEE A CAUSAL CORRELATION HERE.
> >
> > Let me explain something to you. Aaron is what I call a bitter boy. I
> > believe bitter boys are that way because they can't get laid. (Aaron
> > had to buy a mail order bride.)
>
> Really? Who did I pay?
The "translation" agency, no?
> Was it an auction, like in the old slave days?
>
> Or was she stored in a warehouse?
You misspelled "whorehouse".
>
>
> What kind of package was she delivered in? Were there any lavatory
facilities
> inside the package, or are you alleging that the US Post Office made some
woman
> sit in her own waste for several weeks?
>
> Be precise jet...because accuracy counts.
http://www.brknews.com/news/fedex.html
>
> > It also seems they tend to hate people
> > they view as getting sex when they are not, such as gay men and
> > blacks.
>
> I like SANE people. Most black people I know are sane (unlike you).
> Gays are suicidal, which is not sane.
LOL. Yeah, right.
>
> > Look how irrational he is! He wants to make what gays do everybody's
> > business because of AIDS, but doesn't seem to care about diseases
> > spread mainly by heterosexual contact.
>
> which DEADLY, INCURABLE diseases are spread by heterosexual contact?
>
AIDS.
J
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:01:03 -0500
"Christopher L. Estep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:pOfV6.71902$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:7zST6.66643$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Christopher L. Estep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:rHQT6.62133$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:v%vT6.6328$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [snip]
> > > > This I find quite surprising. As I understand it *only* Microsoft's
> > > > Java compiler and VM can use WFC, because only they support
> > > > MS's "delegates" feature, upon which WFC depends rather
> > > > heavily.
> > >
> > > That is only because Symantec's Java machine (which Netscape licenses)
> for
> > > some strange reason does *not* support the WFC delegates feature (even
> > > though Symantec could have done so, as they are one of WFC's
creators).
> >
> > This seems rather weird to me. If Symatec thought
> > highly enough of delegates to build WFC on them,
> > why not support them in their own JVM?
> >
> > Perhaps MS insisted.
>
> Microsoft *couldn't*. Symantec and Microsoft *jointly* own the major code
> in the Windows Foundation Classes (and the Microsoft Foundation Classes
from
> which they sprung). Also, witness the fact that Visual Cafe, Symantec's
> Java development toolset, supported MFC (in fact, it supported MFC before
> Microsoft's own Visual J++ did) in addition to JavaBeans
Sorry, but WFC and MFC are not related at all. Symantec didn't even own a
C++ compiler when MFC was created, and it was created entirely at Microsoft.
Unless of course you have some other concept of what MFC is (are you sure
you don't mean AFC?)
> > > > Nor do I see how WFC could benefit DB/2 Universal. I
> > > > understand that one could write a Java program that
> > > > emits a DB/2 database file, but I don't see why you'd
> > > > want to, or why using WFC would make that easier.
> > >
> > > To mirror the same functionality provided by Enterprise JavaBeans
(which
> > > Sun, among others, has been hawking) but in a more memory-efficient
> > manner.
> >
> > Oh, I misunderstood you. But I don't see what
> > in WFC would be useful for this purpose..
> >
> > ... well, except one thing. Delegates would be
> > a nice way to do some things JavaBeans do, or
> > at least MS says so.
> >
> > Does IBM's Java VM support delegates?
> >
> > [snip]
> > > > Why not? So far you've claimed that MS partnered with others
> > > > to produce MFC and WFC, but this hardly suggests that it would
> > > > have been prohibitively difficult to do it themselves.
> > >
> > > I'm not saying that it would have been prohibitively difficult; I'm
> simply
> > > saying it wouldn't have made smart business sense. Also, there was
> > already
> > > a hue and cry (largely from IBM) about Microsoft's development tools
> being
> > > Windows-only (at the time this was going on, Windows 95 was in
> > development,
> > > and if you were talking about 32-bit Windows, you were referring to
NT).
> >
> > That seems a rather strange thing for IBM to cry about. Why
> > should anyone expect Microsoft to product development
> > tools for other platforms?
> >
> > > The core MFC creators/licensees (Microsoft and Symantec) also licensed
> MFC
> > > to other development tool creators (Borland, Powersoft, Sybase, and
IBM,
> > > among others).
> >
> > Were any of them dumb enough to actualy use it? :D
> >
> > I know Borland came up with their own thing, at least.
>
> Borland also licensed MFC (for both Delphi and Visual dBase). You could
go
> in either direction (decidedly so in Delphi; I built both MFC-based and
> non-MFC based databases entirely in Delphi).
How exactly could Delphi, a Pascal compiler, compile MFC (C++)? Borland C++
Builder can compile MFC, but not Delphi. You seem to be very mistaken about
a few things.
> > > > Who knows? MFC might have sucked less had MS done it
> > > > entirely on their own. :D
> > >
> > > Symantec was part of MFC from the beginning. In fact, Central Point
> > > Software used Symantec development tools to create PC Tools for
Windows.
> >
> > If you say so. I was speculating about what might
> > have been, that's all.
> >
> > > Microsoft was also sensible enough to realize that some developers
> didn't
> > > want any part of Microsoft development tools for reasons having
nothing
> to
> > > do with their quality (or perceived lack of it). Microsoft
concentrated
> > > mostly on the higher-order languages (C++, Cobol. Fortran, etc.).
> >
> > I am having difficulty thinking of a development tools
> > vendor that does not do that. Though most don't promote
> > BASIC. :D
>
> For a long time, Sybase didn't promote C++ (and it largely still doesn't
> today, though it acquired Powersoft, who had the long-acknowledged king of
> the non-MS C++ compilers, Watcom C++, in its arsenal).
> Exactly how much do you hear about Sybase and C++ today? (Powersoft and
> Watcom, which Powersoft bought in the early 1990s, are
> class-library-agnostic as companies, and licensed both ObjectWindows and
> MFC.) Watcom C++, even with MFC, was known for producing tighter code
than
> Microsoft's own compiler. (Even Microsoft doesn't dispute this.)
I don't think Watcom was compatible with MFC, since it required a few
extensions which Watcom didn't support. Powersoft also had their own class
library, which they shipped with Optima++, their C++ based RAD environment.
> > > It took
> > > Windows 95 for Microsoft to release Visual Basic upon an unsuspecting
> > > planet.
> >
> > I'm sure there were 16-bit versions of VB. Didn't
> > they predate 1995?
>
> Yes. And by and large they *stunk*. Worse, you could get decent C++
> compilers (not only Borland C++, but even the largely MFC-driven Watcom
C++)
> for less than VB cost.
Watcom's major claim to fame was not MFC, but rather DOS/4GW, 32 bit DOS
development.
> > I was under the impression that OCX controls
> > were an effort to 'clean up' VBX controls and make
> > them language-neutral and 32-bit compatible.
>
> The biggest use for OCXes is in connecting VB programs (and later, C++
> programs) to databases smaller than SQL Server or other similarly large
> databases without the need for still largely unwieldy ODBC drivers.
> However, OCXes need not be written in a high-order language (I've written
> three myself entirely in Delphi, and other have written far more). You
can
> also write OCXes for SQL databases as well, but an OCX is even more
unwieldy
> for a SQL database than an ODBC driver is.
Actually, no. The largest use of OCX's is in custom controls. Calendar
controls, grids (yes, they do offer database connectivity, but the control
itself is used much more often without).
> > [snip]
> > > > Yes, but MS can handle the development tool end of it
> > > > *themselves*. They cannot handle more than a small fraction
> > > > of the applications.
> > >
> > > True, they *could* handle it all themselves. They now have
development
> > > tools *across* the spectrum of tool users (newbies to enterprise).
But
> > why
> > > *do* it alone if you don't have to?
> >
> > Mostly to keep all the goodies on your own platform,
> > I should think.
>
> However, you pointed out that MS *couldn't* handle more than a small
> fraction of the apps. The rest of those applications needed to be
> developed, and also, for various reasons, needed non-MS development tools.
> Hence the efforts of Watcom and Symantec (and later Sybase).
Nearly all commerical apps these days are written in Visual C++.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James)
Subject: Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:20:58 GMT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:36:12 +0200, "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>"Robert Morelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "mlw"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>> >> "Rene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >> news:pwTU6.38562$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> > 1.- Is Linux (kernel) programmed on C or C++? 2.- Is GNOME programmed
>> >> > on C or C++?
>>
>> Linux, like Windows, is coded in C. So is GNOME.
>
>Just as a note, Linux is indeed written in C, but Windows is written mainly
>in C++.
>Windows' *kernel* is written in C, though.
Windows is written mainly in C++?..where'd ya get that info?
Surely Kernal32.dll, user32.dll, and gdi23.dll are in C....I don't
see any C++ anywhere....it you mean the COM stuff, yeah
that's in C++....but it's not technically part of the OS..
James
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From: "green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:46:41 +1000
"drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On 11 Jun 2001 11:10:02 -0500, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> ("Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
> >"Norman D. Megill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:OR4V6.812$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> In article <9g2bl8$eq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >Encarta, If I remember correctly, is Funk and Wagnels Encyclopedia,
> >thrown
> >> >onto CD by Microsoft.
> >>
> >> With content added, deleted, and modified per Microsoft's marketing
> >> agenda.
> >
> >Untrue - prove your claim!
>
> Prove they haven't.
ah the very long task challenge that would take too long any way to win the
argument.
and being an reference source it should have changed (updated with current
knowledge where appropriate)
the best way to lie is to tell the truth unconvincingly
the second best way is to tell a almost truth. (a version of the truth)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 12 June 2001 The Linux Society: John van Vlaanderen on RAID
Date: 12 Jun 2001 00:42:52 -0400
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http://www.thelinuxsociety.org
What: The Linux Society General Meeting
When: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 at 6:15 pm (sharp!) to 8:30 pm
Where: The NYPC Office
Room 1560, floor 15
The New Yorker Hotel,
481 Eighth Avenue (at 34th Street)
Manhattan, New York City
Speaker: John van Vlaanderen
Topic: Introduction to RAID
(Redundant Array of Inexpensive Drives)
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John van Vlaanderen will speak about one
of the most popular storage technologies
of today and its applicability under GNU/Linux.
==================================
The Linux Society (TM)
http://www.thelinuxsociety.org
is a SIG of NYPC (http://www.nypc.org)
meeting monthly in mid-town Manhattan.
We hold a General Meeting each month on a topic of
interest to new or experienced LINUX users.
We also have a Linux Study Group in progress,
meeting two evenings each month
All our meetings are free and open to all.
For more information please check our web site
or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Stefan Mashkevich
Public Relations, The Linux Society
</blockquote>
Distributed poC TINC:
Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org
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From: "Pinocchio Poppins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.aol-sucks,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Laugh, it's hilarious.
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:44:15 GMT
"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nope, there should be a mandatory test, for every incorrect answer, $1000
is
> added onto the price of the computer, for evey correct answear, the price
> will stay constant. Those who fail the test twice, or are caught cheating,
> automatically loose their right to use a computer for the rest of their
> lives :)
No. They would lose the right to a computer _with a shell_ (as
opposed to embedded systems such as TiVo, XBox, and the one
in their car) until they have a certificate of general computer training.
And as much as I hate copy controls, Spectrum Holobyte's
documentation-keyed system was a good way of getting people to
RTFM.
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