Linux-Advocacy Digest #314, Volume #35 Sat, 16 Jun 01 19:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance...) (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: More microsoft innovation ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Peter Hayes)
Re: PC power switch wont shut down Windows (LShaping)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Woofbert)
Re: PC power switch wont shut down Windows ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Woofbert)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Woofbert)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Peter Hayes)
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Rick)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Woofbert)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Woofbert)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Woofbert)
Re: More microsoft innovation (Woofbert)
Re: More microsoft innovation (Woofbert)
Re: More microsoft innovation (Woofbert)
Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance...) ("Chad Myers")
Re: Linux inheriting "DLL Hell" ("Chad Myers")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance...)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:11:05 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Rotten168
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Sat, 16 Jun 2001 05:18:51 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>>
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Rotten168
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote
>> on Fri, 15 Jun 2001 03:32:36 GMT
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >"Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Did you know that out here in AZ, we actually had a Rep.
>> >> advocating the idea of having a "state dirt"? I couldn't
>> >> believe that one. Another case of a pot-smoking lib
>> >> dressing like a Rep, IMHO.
>> >
>> >What's your beef with pot?
>>
>> There are those who classify pot as an extremely dangerous substance
>> (in fact, legally, it's a Class I Narcotic: of no medicinal value
>> whatsoever, interdict on sight, etc. etc.) Note the "killer weed"
>> campaign in the 1930's or so.
>
>I heard that pot is about as dangerous as strenuous exercise in the
>short term.
Yes, although James Fixx died from said exercise. :-) [*] Still, I
for one can't say that pot is dangerous. I'm not sure I care
for the smell of the stuff -- but then, I don't care for the smell
of my own "fragrant exhausts" or shit either, so what of it? :-)
If I smell it, I try to avoid it.
It seems to be less dangerous than alcohol, absent the issues
regarding smoldering joints (which presumably have the same
problems as cigarettes dropped on mattresses or couches).
>
>Just for the record I hate the stuff... I just think the govt' is
>misguided in it's persecution of it.
I've used it exactly once; being stoned was interesting and should
be tried once, but I can't say that I'd want to repeat the experience.
Not that it was unpleasant, mind you -- just weird and didn't do
much for me. (The fact that said friend some days (weeks?) later
tried to O.D. on something -- it wasn't pot, probably sleeping
pills -- probably didn't help -- she's OK AFAIK, but I've not seen
her since. *shrug*)
>
>> Others would consider it a gateway drug to the harder stuff,
>> such as cocaine, LSD, and PCP.
>>
>> I'm not sure there's evidence for the truth of either viewpoint,
>> although there are indications long-term use will damage
>> memory function. But then, long-term use of alcohol may
>> damage liver function -- so where's the consistency?
>> Not here, that's for sure.
>
>Like our ages: 16 to drive; 18 to buy guns, join military, vote; 21 to
>drink.
That, too.
[.sigsnip]
[*] to be fair, he was at high risk of heart disease from at least
two, possibly more factors: heredity, smoking (although he had
quit), elevated blood cholesterol, and possibly even
warning symptoms.
See http://ww.sportsci.org/encyc/suddendeath/suddendeath.html
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
EAC code #191 1d:23h:44m actually running Linux.
We are all naked underneath our clothes.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More microsoft innovation
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:05:24 -0500
"Woofbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <9gfk7b$j1h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayende Rahien"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > MS provides me with the tools to do so. I don't have the
> > time/money/incentive to create this myself, why would MS be prevented
> > from implementing this? The smarttags aren't hard-coded, they can be
> > changed by the user,
>
> Which the user has to read some obscure DSK to find out how to do.
This is rich, coming from a Linux user. You think man pages and how-to's
are any easier?
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:13:40 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:24:09 +0200, "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Peter Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 18:45:25 +0200, "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Read the SDK, and you'll know.
> >
> > I don't have Office 2000 so I guess I'll never know.
>
> You don't need Office2K.
> I posted the URL to download it.
Ok. I go to that URL (the download.com one) and it appears to offer the
"Smart Tag SDK (For Office XP)". No other references to any other versions.
And when I run stsdk.exe all I get is a message saying that "Setup has
detected that you do not have an Office 2000 family product
installed......". Not really surprising :-)
A quick Google search revealed only this product, none other.
Sorry,
Peter
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From: LShaping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: PC power switch wont shut down Windows
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:05:24 GMT
My computer's Basic Input/Output Service settings and Windows settings
are correct, as always. Microsoft has disabled the power switch in
certain circumstances in an effort to cope with Windows technical
problems. When I want to turn off my computer, I would like to use my
computer's power switch to do so.
LShaping
--
Microsoft is going to court today.
"Anderson Lie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>tried holding the power switch down for 5 seconds?
>
>many of the newer ATX boards uses the power switch as a suspend switch as
>well (which the OS could very well ignore if set that way) and a 5 seconds
>press would activate the "hardware" switch.
>
>
>Anderson Lie
>
>"LShaping" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I knew this was going to happen. When I saw the "When I press the
>> power button on my computer" option in Windows Millennium "Power
>> Options" I knew that it was going to malfunction. Hello Microsoft. I
>> use the power switch to shut down when Windows wont. Is there some
>> logic in extending Windows dysfunctionallity to my computer's power
>> switch? If I want to hasstle with Windows, isn't that what the Start
>> >> Shut Down... path is for? Thanks to Microsoft for extending
>> Windows slimey tenticles to my power supply. I can't wait to find out
>> what "PCHealth" is going to do to my other hard disk partitions.
>> :o/
>
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From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:17:42 GMT
In article <9ggirq$4ji$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayende Rahien"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> > Microsoft should seek the permission of all content publishers regarding
> > their proposal to censor, manipulate or change the content of their
> > publications. If they cannot get everyone's agreement, this option
> > should be removed.
>
> You haven't hear about Paul's law, have you?
"You cannot fall off the floor."
And your point is?
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: PC power switch wont shut down Windows
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:21:05 -0500
Well, do so. Press the button for 5 seconds. That's the way it's designed.
"LShaping" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> My computer's Basic Input/Output Service settings and Windows settings
> are correct, as always. Microsoft has disabled the power switch in
> certain circumstances in an effort to cope with Windows technical
> problems. When I want to turn off my computer, I would like to use my
> computer's power switch to do so.
> LShaping
>
>
>
> --
> Microsoft is going to court today.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Anderson Lie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >tried holding the power switch down for 5 seconds?
> >
> >many of the newer ATX boards uses the power switch as a suspend switch as
> >well (which the OS could very well ignore if set that way) and a 5
seconds
> >press would activate the "hardware" switch.
> >
> >
> >Anderson Lie
> >
> >"LShaping" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> I knew this was going to happen. When I saw the "When I press the
> >> power button on my computer" option in Windows Millennium "Power
> >> Options" I knew that it was going to malfunction. Hello Microsoft. I
> >> use the power switch to shut down when Windows wont. Is there some
> >> logic in extending Windows dysfunctionallity to my computer's power
> >> switch? If I want to hasstle with Windows, isn't that what the Start
> >> >> Shut Down... path is for? Thanks to Microsoft for extending
> >> Windows slimey tenticles to my power supply. I can't wait to find out
> >> what "PCHealth" is going to do to my other hard disk partitions.
> >> :o/
> >
>
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From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:26:07 GMT
In article <MCQW6.16845$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Erik Funkenbusch"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:42:14 GMT, "Cyberbear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dan,
> > > Because you, as the user, can change fonts and colors. For a
> > > third
> party
> > > to stick its nose in, and do it before it is displayed in the browser
> > > is
> > > intrusive.
> >
> > I'll bet it's also illegal
>
> Then that would make this site illegal.
>
> http://rinkworks.com/dialect/
This is done with the knowledge, consent, and request of the person
visiting the site. It's funny... clearly for enterteainment. Moreover,
it very cleverly does not change the link structure of the page. Compare
http://www.infernosoft.com/beowoof/index.html with
http://rinkworks.com/dialect/dialectp.cgi?dialect=bork&url=http%3A%2F%2Fw
ww.infernosoft.com%2Fbeowoof%2Findex.html
(Just don't expect to follow the Instroocshuns fur instelleeng Leenoox
fur Nooboos Mecs with any sort of usefuyl result.)
The problem with SmartLinks is that they change the link structure of
the document. The new links are supplied by some untrustworthy central
authority.
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
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From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:28:14 GMT
In article <9ggl7t$7qd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayende Rahien"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To be fair, that's not a user thing but a web page author thing. But
> > it's still amazing to me that someone would believe that web page
> > deisgners would want to have features only visible to a small fraction
> > of their site's visitors.
>
> You aren't familiar with the history of web-trends, are you?
I am familiar with them, yes. I was even flamed once for having added
*pictures* to my web site.
This particular feature depends on Microsoft supplying certain files.
Who but MS browser users will get them?
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:33:15 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:49:33 -0500, "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> "Peter Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:42:14 GMT, "Cyberbear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dan,
> > > Because you, as the user, can change fonts and colors. For a third
> party
> > > to stick its nose in, and do it before it is displayed in the browser is
> > > intrusive.
> >
> > I'll bet it's also illegal
>
> Then that would make this site illegal.
>
> http://rinkworks.com/dialect/
The difference is that I know it's dialecting the text, and the original is
available anyway, unlike SmartTags that are there solely to lure the
unsuspecting to Microsoft's "specially selected" sites.
A lawsuit over the dialecter would be laughed out of court. SmartTags will
cost someone millions sometime soon.
Let's hope that someone is Microsoft, because SmartTags is the most
pernicious and evil concept ever to come out of Redmond.
What I don't understand is how supposedly intellegent people can't see that.
Peter
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 18:36:02 -0400
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> drsquare wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 19:39:01 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> > (Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> >
> > >"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Perhaps this is why he never gets any sex.
> > >>
> > >> I do...with WOMEN.
> > >>
> > >
> > >Women. Thats plural. Thats multiple sexual partners. Well, did you know
> > >your risk of contracting HIV is increasing exponentially?
> >
> > Which is also going against all the right-wing idealism he seems to
> > favour so much.
>
> false premise.
> I'm NOT right wing.
>
> Right wing and Left-wing political views are BOTH a form of SOCIALISM
>
> and...since I'm a libertarian, and libertarians are opposed to socialism
> in ALL forms, that means that I am opposed to right-wingers just as
> strongly as left-wingers.
>
> Hope that helps, you politically illiterate MORON.
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
I repeat.
Women. Thats plural. Thats multiple sexual partners. Well, did you know
your risk of contracting HIV is increasing exponentially?
<Rude and obnoxious sig snipped.>
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From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:30:11 GMT
In article <9ggis4$4ji$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayende Rahien"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Woofbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <9gfk7p$j1h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayende Rahien"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > MS provides a mechanism to add smart tags to the page. It also
> > > provides a sotck implementation. The user can choose to use it or
> > > not, as well as to use MS' implementation, Mr. X's or his own.
> > >
> > > What is your problem here? That MS provides a stock
> > > implementation?
> >
> > Have you been following thus argument at tall? That's what we've
> > been complaining about since the start!
>
> And your problem is that you fear that this stock implementation will
> link Linux to cancer, etc? Since it doesn't do any such thing, I fail
> to see the reason for this reaction. You give MS too much credit for
> what they can get away with.
I'm amazed that even though you've presumably been reading my posts for
at least a week now, you haven't gotten itthrough your thick skull that
I don't trust Microsoft to remain impartial in which links it chooses to
include in its list, and in what associations it makes between words and
links.
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
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From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:30:53 GMT
In article <9ggis9$4ji$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayende Rahien"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Woofbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <9gfkm2$jm7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayende Rahien"
>
>
> > > > How is the user going to know how to do this?
> > >
> > > He can *read* about it in the smart tags SDK.
> >
> > I won't know houw you can expect an end-user to read documentation
> > intended for developers (what does SDK stand for?).
>
> Software Development Kit
You really are thick-skulled. You answered the easy parenthetical
question and ignored the point.
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
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From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:31:25 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, macman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In article <9gfgpr$e45$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayende Rahien"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > "Woofbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > > Who controls the content of these added links?
> > >
> > > The user.
> >
> > I was under the impression that once you turn the feature on, certain
> > words already have links supplied by Microsoft.
>
> They do -- many of them directing the user to msn or other Microsoft
> sites
No, that can't be! Microsoft would never ever do something like that!
}: )
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
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From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More microsoft innovation
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:38:08 GMT
In article <9gggs8$1u3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayende Rahien"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Don't you suppose for one minute that Microsoft won't have a
> > mechanism for updating the word list to their specification?
>
> I would be surprised if they didn't.
<Snip>
> > > B> Can be removed/changed/replaced.
> >
> > By you *AND* Microsoft - and who knows what other third parties who
> > wish to control the internet.
>
> No, MS can replace those definations only if I run some software of
> them that does that. They can't just wave a magic wand and replace
> it. If you think that they can, please present proof.
You appear to have contradicted yourself. Either that, or you haven't
realized the full implications of the software feature you're so
staunchly defending.
This mechanism for updating the word list to Microsoft's specification,
which you admit you'd be surprised if it didn't exist ... do you think
it might be a part of the browser, and set to run automagically every
few days?
I'd be surprised if it wasn't.
It's' likely you've already got that mechanism built into your operating
system. It's called Software Update.
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
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From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More microsoft innovation
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:43:30 GMT
In article <9ggl7g$7qd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayende Rahien"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > SmartTags, on the other hand, are selected by some other agency over
> > which you the user have no control. How do you know what content
> > Microsoft will supply? You don't.
>
> No, they aren't. You can choose whose definations you will use. MS provide
> such a defination, you can get someone else's, or write your own.
> The user has control on whose defination s/he is using.
That's so amazigly self-contradictory it's hard to know where to begin.
"MS provide such a defination" means that the tags are selected by some
other agency over which you the user have no control.
In order to have such control, you're requiring the user to go and
delete all the MS-supplied tags. Tell me all the users are going to do
that!
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
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From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More microsoft innovation
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:44:11 GMT
In article <9ggft0$ib$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayende Rahien"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> > Which parts? And BTW, I didnt say they did, although they probably have.
> > I said -you- prove they cant. You cant prove it, because they can.
>
> It's useless to try and prove a negative.
Prove to me then that Microsoft will be responsible in how they choose
what tags to include.
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance...)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:29:12 GMT
"Rotten168" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Chad Myers wrote:
> >
> > "Rotten168" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Chad Myers wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Rotten168" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>>You think conservatives want people to become educated?
> > > > > > >>>>Look at their education bills. They don't want you to have a
clue
> > about
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>>>true history of this country. Because if you did, you'd realize
what
> > > > true
> > > > > > >>>>scoundrels they are. You sound as if you are their poster boy.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>You need to hit the books pal, and open your mind.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>For the first time in 8 years the USA has an education policy
> > > > > > >>>under the Bush Administration. Under the Clinton Administration
> > > > > > >>>the education policy consisted of nothing more than Slick Willie
> > > > > > >>>chasing school girls his daughter's age.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>Oh yeah, and removing all trace of religious freedom at the local
> > > > > > >>level, not to mention spreading abortion propaganda and sex
> > > > > > >>education which consisted of teachers encouraging students to
> > > > > > >>lie on top of each other.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>-c
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Man, things sure have changed since I was in school!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not too sure about the US education system, but could someone
please
> > > > > > go into detail on how/why it has degraded?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Matthew Gardiner
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmmm... IMO it's more of a cultural thing than anything else... but
it's
> > > > > not really 'cool' for kids to be engaged by school... kids believe
that
> > > > > getting grades and getting into college are more important than
> > > > > learning, so they cheat/float by.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, kids get cynical by low teacher/child ratios. One huge problem
is
> > > > > that parents are apathetic and would rather watch Survivor than go to
> > > > > PTA meetings, and they take teacher criticism of their children as
> > > > > insults and get defensive and work against the teacher rather than
with
> > > > > them.
> > > > >
> > > > > My mom is a teacher so I should know.
> > > >
> > > > Here I go with my conservative rant again, but it has everything to do
> > > > with the parents in this country. People have no responsibility for
> > > > anything any more. 15 year old kids are having kids now (I just read a
> > > > news story about a girl with two kids and was pregnant again at 16!).
> > >
> > > That's not a conservative rant... liberals don't want the parents to be
> > > apathetic either.
> >
> > But Liberals don't talk about personal responsibility, they talk about
> > how government should do more to force parents to take action. They also
> > attempt to defend single parent homes. The fact is, parents need to take
> > more action with their children. Father's shouldn't be leaving their
families
> > and women shouldn't be purposely having children on their own. I know
> > that probably offends your liberal core, but it's the truth. A family is a
> > family and many adults seem to have children out of their own personal
> > greed rather than for what's best for their children (*cough*roseyo'donnel
> > ormadonna*cough*).
>
> I'm not a liberal and I agree with you. But I see conservative-types
> doing some of the same things.
>
> I don't think it's liberals you're talking about (the liberals and
> conservatives I know are all pretty good parents), I think it's these
> apathetic people who don't have political opinions and who only care
> about whether or not they'll be able to buy that new Ford Explorer or
> new 15" TV who make bad parents.
I wasn't attempting to imply that liberals are the only ones with
child-rearing deficiencies. I'm sorry if I gave you that impression.
I'm just concerned that liberals don't seem to see the real root
of the problem. Liberals seem to always want to treat the symptom,
rather than the disease, especially if the cure for that disease
involves someone taking some responsibility for their actions.
> Liberals do support single parent families, basically because they're
> there and what else really can you do for them.
The hell they don't. They push and push to get women to have children
on their own. There have been pushes (mainly by the feminist camp of
the liberal arena, granted) to encourage women not to involve men in
child rearing as it only causes family problems.
> If there are liberals
> who think that single-parent families are equal/better than full-familes
> then those people are just plain old deluded.
I agree! =)
> It's not just conservatives who dislike Rosie OD, too.
That's good to hear =)
I was starting to lose faith in America.
>
> > > > Where are the parents? They're busy trying to collect more welfare,
> > > > or shooting heroin or smoking crack.
> > >
> > > No, these parents are otherwise hardworking people... they're just
> > > apathetic. This is suburbia, not just the ghetto.
> >
> > It's the whole mindset "I'll have a child at 30, keep my career,
> > throw the kid in perpetual daycare and only seem him 2 hours a day
> > and the kid will still grow up to be well adjusted!"
>
> I know liberal and conservative parents who do this. Just for an
> example, all those Republican women you see arguing on those
> talk-shows... some of them do have kids, who do you think takes care of
> those kids?
See above. I never meant to imply that conservatives don't have parenting
skill problems.
-c
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux inheriting "DLL Hell"
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:30:57 GMT
"Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9gggsk$c7l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:%nLW6.41035$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > >
> > > Hmm, does Linux has something like a repharse point?
> > > That would allow all applications to link to foo.so.1 and get the minor
> > > version that they are expecting.
> >
> > You mean reparse point, not repharse. And yes, it's called a symbolic
> link.
>
> As I understand the reparse points, they're a bit more complicated than
> symlinks. I understood that with a reparse point, you could insert a data
> filter and modify the data as it goes through the reparse point?
Yes, reparse points != symlinks. They're more akin to hard links with
some extra intelligence. Basically, though, to answer the question at hand,
symlinks will accomplish what he's talking about.
-c
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