Linux-Hardware Digest #270, Volume #9            Tue, 26 Jan 99 00:13:47 EST

Contents:
  Linux system vendors ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Ethernet for a linux neophyte ("TEX@go")
  Re: Linux Drivers for Cards that drive digital LCDs?? (BL)
  Sound card opti931 problem -- help! ("Jesus M. Salvo Jr.")
  Re: printing to Apple Laserwriter pro 630 ("B. Joshua Rosen")
  Re: Modems for Linux and Unix? ("Black Blade")
  Re: Soundblaster: Error Opening /Dev/Audio (Vladimir Florinski)
  Re: which distribution package do you recommend? (Todd Ostermeier)
  Re: Problems with ghostscipt 5.5 (Ritchie)
  RH5.2 and Maxtor 6.8G HDD ("C. Chen")
  Re: 3C509 Combo configuration problem. (Paul Hovnanian)
  Re: I am a Linux Know Nothing, would like to know ("Justin Ryan [PHT]")
  Re: Does m/b cache size make *that* much difference? ("Justin Ryan [PHT]")
  Re: ZipDrive & CDROM ("Jon Horner")
  Boot procedure docs (Kevin Long)
  Re: ASUS vs TYAN vs Intel board? ("William Taylor")
  Re: iMac vs PC (Scott Alfter)
  Re: 3c905 card 100M full duplex (Paul Hovnanian)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux system vendors
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 03:13:29 GMT

Hi,

Can anyone tell me the vendors selling
"preinstalled linux" systems. I want a home
PC with following approximate config:

400 MHz AMD K6-2.
128 MB SDRAM
10 GiG Ultra DMA IDE
56 Kbps Modem (** a must **)
Sound Blaster Card (16-bit)
DVD (Donot know if they are currently supported by linux)

Thanks in advance.

-- Lewin

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From: "TEX@go" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Ethernet for a linux neophyte
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:56:39 -0600

Go to Joshes page.......


http://jgo.local.net/LinuxGuide/

Jim Ray wrote:
> 
> Well, I'm setting up my box to dual boot into linux (at least until I can
> safely just get rid of WinNT for good!).  Needless to say, I'm really new at
> this.  How, if you'd please, do I set up my ethernet card.  I'm using redhat
> 5.1, but didn't install the networking stuff at the beginning installation.
> I'd like to avoid reinstalling, but it's not necessary.  I tried the
> ethernet how-to and could not, for the life of me, figure out any
> discernable instructions on "this is how you set up an ethernet card".
> Thanks!
> 
> Jim
> To reply to via personal email, please remove the ".nospam" from the end of
> the email address

-- 
                            Michael H. Collins
                            
                The irony is that Bill Gates claims to making a
                         stable operating system and
             Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world.
                
                 Linux; The Official OS of the New Millennium
                      
                          http://www.linuxlink.com

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From: BL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Drivers for Cards that drive digital LCDs??
Date: 26 Jan 1999 03:56:09 GMT
Reply-To: no.spambots.please

Paul Hovnanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Satyajit Rao wrote:
: > 
: > Hi,
: >         I would like to get a good *digital* LCD  montior for my linux
: > machine. The first problem of
: > course is that there aren't many digital LCD monitors out there.  There
: > is the new SGI 1600SW,
: > monitor that requires a Number Nine Revolution IV card, but as far as I
: > know this card does not
: > have a linux driver.

I wonder about that!  I'm told that there's an Xfree86 'modeline' by
numbernine (officially) for this card...  

numbernine has usually been pretty good about xfree86 support, from my
experience.


-- 
AntiSpam: For email, change all 'zero' chars to letter 'o' chars.
bryan, http://www.Grateful.Net/


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From: "Jesus M. Salvo Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Sound card opti931 problem -- help!
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 01:36:14 +0000

I badly need help as I have been losing sleep for the last few nights
trying to get this card to work.

First things first:

kernel is 2.0.36
ossfree is 3.8s2++-971130
opti931 configuration under NT4:
    I/O    530h
    IRQ    5
    DMA Playback channel    1
    DMA Record channel    0
    DMA buffer size 16
    Enable full duplex
    Disable MPU (Disabled options are: I/O MPU 330h, MPU IRQ 2/9)
    Game port disabled

The card works fine under nt.


I saw a mini-HOWTO on the opti931, and followed the instructions.

FIRST PROBLEM: kernel compilation options

My first problem was the "Configuring/Compiling the Kernel" section on
the mini-HOWTO. It said compile sound as module and follow the same
config used an in the mini-HOWTO:

M        Sound card support
Y        Generic OPL2/OPL3 FM synthesizer support
Y        MPU-401 support (NOT for SB16)
Y        Microsoft Sound System support
Y        FM synthesizer (YM3812/OPL-3) support
330    I/O base for MPU401 Check from manual of the card
5        MPU401 IRQ Check from manual of the card
530    MSS/WSS I/O base 530,604,E80 or F40
7        MSS/WSS IRQ 7,9,10 or 11
0        MSS/WSS DMA 0,1 or 3
1        MSS/WSS second DMA (if possible) 0,1, or 3

But, I can't specify Y if you compile sound as module. I therefore
cannot specify the said IRQ,DMA,I/O via make menuconfig nor make
xconfig. I also need to specify OSS module as part of the configuration
for the other stuff to be selectable. The defaults as seen via make
xconfig does not match the config above, nor of my config.

So I compiled all of the above as modules, leaving the default
IRQ,I/O,DMA that doesn't match mine. Did make dep;make clean;make
zImage. Reinstall lilo, rebooted. Verified that I have the new kernel
with uname -a. Then make modules;make modules_install

SECOND PROBLEM: lspci not found

The next section of the mini-HOWTO was to run run pnpdump, configure
isapnp.conf, and then run isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf. When configuring
isapnp.conf, I followed the example given in the mini-HOWTO, using the
same IRQ, DMA, I/O. I made sure I had (CSN 1 (LD 0 (REG 2 (POKE 4))))
just before (WAITFORKEY), as the example have shown.

No problems with isapnp, except that in the first line of the output, I
have:

lspci not found, so PCI resource conflict not checked.
Board 1 has identity ....

Then the following lines says "Enabled OK"

I do not have a device file named /dev/lspci. Checked with dmesg, I have
the following lines:

<.....>
pcibios_init: BIOS32 Service directory structure ....blah
pcibios_init: BIOS32 Service directory entry .. blah
pcibios_init: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry ....blah
Probing PCI hardware.
Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 333.41 BogoMIPS
<.....>

Next I ran the OPTi82C931 program, as indicited in the mini-HOWTO. No
problems here.


THIRD PROBLEM: Unable to load sound

The last step in the mini-HOWTO was to load the sound module. However,
after typing "insmod sound", I get the following errors:

/lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/sound.0: unresolved symbol
register_sound_special_R35a326c1
/lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/sound.0: unresolved symbol
register_sound_dsp_R7f48799
/lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/sound.0: unresolved symbol
unregister_sound_midi_Rec241fc1
/lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/sound.0: unresolved symbol
register_sound_mixer_R3c647045
/lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/sound.0: unresolved symbol
unregister_sound_special_Re3e92b37
/lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/sound.0: unresolved symbol
register_sound_midi_Rd95c65a6
/lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/sound.0: unresolved symbol
unregister_sound_mixer_R931874f7
/lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/sound.0: unresolved symbol
unregister_sound_dsp_R2a042bfd

What does this mean???

Even more, after failing to load sound, then typing 'cat /dev/sndstat'
which of course shows no card configured, etc.., then typing 'insmod
sound' again, I now get the message that the module has been loaded. It
seems that 'cat /dev/sndstat' loads the sound module together with
sound_core. I verified this with lsmod,  removing the modules again,
then typing 'cat /dev/sndstat' again.


Having the above failed, I then configured /etc/isapnp.conf to use the
same IRQ, DMA, I/O settings that I have with NT, rerun isapnp
/etc/isapnp.conf. (Tried both with MPU and w/o MPUI, with game port and
w/o game port). I still get 'lspci not found, so PCI resource conflict
not checked.'

Rerun the OPTI82C91 program, tried to load sound again, with no such
luck.

FOURTH PROBLEM: Card configured but not detected when sound is compiled
in kernel

So I decided to compile sound in the kernel. At least this way, I can
specify the IRQ, DMA, I/O while in make menuconfig or make xconfig.
Initially, I tried the the IRQ, DMA, and I/O settings as indicated in
the mini-HOWTO. Recompiled the kernel, reinstall lilo, rebooted,
verified with uname -a. Before rebooting though, I modified
/etc/isapnp.conf to be the same with the config specified in the kernel.

Same during bootup the output message of isapnp, everything is "Enabled
OK". (The output of isapnp is not part of dmesg's output).

Checked with dmesg  | more, I get:

Sound initialization started
Sound initialization complete

.... with nothing in between. The Sound-HOWTO tells me that this means
that the card was not detected. So how do you get it to detect my
card!!?? Checking via boot-up, the play-n-play bios does not detect my
sound card.

Therefore, when checking via 'cat /dev/sndstat'

I do have "Installed drivers" and "Card config", but no devices
installed. Furthermore, all the lines under "Card Config" are in
parenthesis, which according to the Sound-HOWTO means that it was
configured but not detected. How do you get it detected!??

FIFTH PROBLEM: Different "card config" (output of cat /dev/sndstat) as
the one with mini-HOWTO

Also, I noticed that the output of 'cat /dev/sndstat' has a different
"Card config:" as the one in the mini-HOWTO. Here is what the mini-HOWTO
says:

<......>
Installed drivers:
Type 10: MS Sound System
Type 27: Compaq Deskpro XL
Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM
Type 5: Roland MPU-401

Card config:
MS Sound System at 0x530 irq 7 drq 0,1
Roland MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 5 drq 0
OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 drq 0

<......>

On the other hand, when I run 'cat' /dev/sndstat' on my machine, I do
not get "MS Sound System" under "Card Config" but I do get "Compaq
Deskpro XL". Where does this "Compaq Deskpro XL" come from anyway??


I ran again make menuconfig and this time tried the IRQ, DMA, I/O
settings that I have with nt. At the same time, I also modified my
/etc/isapnp.conf to be the same as that I have specified with the
kernel. (tried with MPU and w/o MPU, with game port and w/o game port).
Recompiled, reinstall lilo, reboot, check with dmesg, etc...

Same thing. No such luck.

H E L P!


John




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From: "B. Joshua Rosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: printing to Apple Laserwriter pro 630
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:49:51 +0000

RedHat Linux comes with a control panel for printers, thats what I used to
configure mine. I configured it as a generic postscript printer.

Turning off plug and play in the BIOS must been done at boot time.
Different BIOS's have different control screens so you will have to figure
the specifics for your self, it was fairly obvious on my Dell, I expect
your machine will not be to difficult to do.

Good luck,

Josh


Tony Dahbura wrote:

> Joshua:
> Question is how do I configure the OS to use the printer.  I am not
> familiar with that step.  Do I need to build a printcap?  If so how?  I
> am new to this printing stuff under unix.
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
>
> "B. Joshua Rosen" wrote:
>
> > I'm using an Apple Laserwriter 12/640ps with RedHat 5.2. Here is the
> > secret, go into your BIOS setup and turn off plug and play OS. When I
> > did that to make my modem work it also fixed the printer.
> >
> > Josh
> >
> >
> > Tony Perring wrote:
> >
> >> I have a similar problem. Apple laserwriter 2g postscript printer
> >> that works
> >> fine in 98
> >> the printer is on com 2. All I get in my SuSE 5.2 system is a
> >> blinking
> >> "ready to print" light. I have found no useable info on configuring
> >> this
> >> port for a printer. Help would be greatly appreciated.
> >> tp.
> >> Tony Dahbura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >I cannot figure out how to setup a print queue in RH 5.2 to print
> >> to a
> >> >parallel attached Laserwriter pro 630.
> >> >
> >> >Any help would be appreciated it.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >Tony
> >> >
> >> >
> >


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From: "Black Blade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modems for Linux and Unix?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:49:16 -0500

Thank you very much, Rob. The link was very helpful. :-)

Regards,
Alan



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From: Vladimir Florinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Soundblaster: Error Opening /Dev/Audio
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:49:57 -0700

Andreas Schneider wrote:
> 
> PG@Root wrote:
> >
> > Using RH 5.2.
> > Sounblaster Awe 32 (not PnP)
> >
> > When I installed Red Hat, I could have sworn the install routine
> > detected the sound card. I get no sound however using KDE (or any other
> > method for that matter). So, I've run SNDConfig, and when it tries to
> > play I sound I recieve the message "Error Opening /Dev/Audio". This
> > makes me think I don't need to recomplie the Kernel (as suggested in the
> > Sound-HOWTO), as if it were already being "held open". Is there a simple
> > solution to this (still fairly new to Linux...)?
> >
> > Patrick
> 
> Afaik, your error message _means_ that you have to recompile the
> kernel. Personally, I don't know whether the RH-Kernels have sound
> compiled in, but since most stock-kernels focus on the `vital`
> hardware this seems highly unlikely to me.
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Andreas

Red Hat kernels have modular sound enabled, it's unlikely you need to recompile.
Things to check may include:

/sbin/lsmod
cat /proc/interrupts
cat /dev/sndstat
cat /etc/conf.modules
dmesg

-- 


Vladimir

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From: Todd Ostermeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: which distribution package do you recommend?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:15:25 -0600

On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Matthias Warkus wrote:

: SuSE 6.0 is already out. It still ships with 2.0.36, but it is 2.2.0 ready.

Just to clear this up, I was referring to the english version of 6.0.  The
German version is out, and has been out for a couple weeks now.  There is
still no english version, to my knowledge, and with the release of the
2.2.0 kernel today, I would assume the english version will be shipped w/
2.2

________________________________

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]                  
http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ostermer/index.html
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From: Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with ghostscipt 5.5
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:06:46 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Worked great, thanks a bunch.  I set it up with three resolutions too.

What do you mean other device files worked way better for you?  Better
quality, better speed?  I haven't tried them yet but I will.  Thanks for the
help.


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From: "C. Chen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH5.2 and Maxtor 6.8G HDD
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:23:04 -0500

I installed at least four different LINUX versions (all of them were
downloaded from the net) on more than three different computers in the past
and never had a major problem.  But this time, I decided to buy a bundled
version -- Red Hat LINUX 5.2 distributed by MacMillan, and tried to install
it on my new PC, an Abit BH6 MB with Celeron 300A chip and a Maxtor 6.8GB
IDE HDD.  The HDD crashed toward the end of the installation process, and
the tool I downloaded from Maxtor couldn't lower level recover it.  I
thought that must be a bad HDD, so I asked Maxtor to replace it.  Now I just
ruined another HDD with exactly the same symptom.

Is there any one who knows what the problem is?  Is it HDD, MB, controller,
or BIOS?

Please send your help to [EMAIL PROTECTED], thanks.

--cfc





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From: Paul Hovnanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3C509 Combo configuration problem.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:25:55 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Mark and Brian
> 
> Do you then recommend that one should not use the combo card and just get the
> one that one needs? It seems best to replace my combo due to the wasted time
> trying to make this work...
> 
> Neph
> RHLinux almost there!
> 
> In article <R8bo2.47$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   "Mark Vandersteen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You will need to use the setup program that comes with the card to set the
> > card to use T Base-T instead of TBase10 socket and, Also while in there
> > disable plug'n'play as that can cause card detection problems

If my memory serves me correctly, 3com has (had?) a good tech support and 
driver download section on the web. It was a year or two ago, but I got
a 3c509 config program (runs in DOS) which will set the eeprom.

-- 
Paul Hovnanian     mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=Open-source%20Microsoft%20now%21

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From: "Justin Ryan [PHT]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I am a Linux Know Nothing, would like to know
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:52:36 -0600

you can shirnk your windows 98 partition and use the freed up space for
linux, then dual boot between the two (choose which to boot).. try
TurboLinux, www.turbolinux.com/orders/ you can grab the boxed set w/ manual
that walks you through every step of installing it, including shrinking your
partition, it also includes WordPerfect8 for linux.. you can also download
it via ftp and cheapbytes (www.cheapbytes.com) will have it soon as well,
though you won't get the book and probably won't get WP8.. as fors
creenshots, there are tons of places on the web you can find screenshots of
people's systems
-Justin

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Internet/Developer Relations Associate
Pacific HiTech / TurboLinux
http://www.turbolinux.com/
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Izod66 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Would someone please let me know how I can simply see what Linux looks
like on
> the screen, am very interested and see that now Staples is selling it,
would
> like to know lots more, currently running compaq Presario w/166MMX
Pentium, 32
> megs of RAM and Win98, what happens, do I kill Win98, do I have to
reformat to
> use Linux, will all my software run (to numerous to mention), its all a
mystery
> to me and I would sure like to understand more, any literature available?
> Thank you,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>



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From: "Justin Ryan [PHT]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc
Subject: Re: Does m/b cache size make *that* much difference?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:56:01 -0600

it definitely can, cache is a big difference, more significant in some areas
than others.. cpu cache has nothing at all to do with disk i/o, everything
uses it.. i could get technical and probably be right but i might make
mistakes and i'd hate to misinform you, look around the net for info on
that.. one thing i know cache makes a big difference on is video operations,
i.e. window drawing.. cache basically helps anything that is extremely
repetetive, doing the same types of cpu operations over and over in
succession..
-Justin

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Internet/Developer Relations Associate
Pacific HiTech / TurboLinux
http://www.turbolinux.com/
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Chris Menzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have been running some small perl scripts on two K6-2/300 Linux
> machines that differ only in the motherboard cache size -- one has 1MB,
> the other 512k.  The scripts involve very little disk I/O (just loading
> the perl executable and the 5-15k scripts; no disk I/O initiated in the
> scripts themselves).  The machine with the 1MB cache consistently runs
> the scripts about 50% faster.  Can the cache size make *that* much
> difference?  I've had a couple people suggest that it can, but have
> heard no real definitive answer.   Anybody got one?
>
> Much obliged.
>
> ==================================================================
> Christopher Menzel               | web: philebus.tamu.edu/~cmenzel
> Philosophy, Texas A&M University | net:      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> College Station, TX  77843-4237  | vox:             (409) 845-8764
> ==================================================================



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From: "Jon Horner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ZipDrive & CDROM
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:01:58 -0500

Okay, these are good questions for a not-so-newbie like me to answer!

During your boot up, you should see your cdrom's listed.  I have an Atapi
16x and a Philips Omni-Writer on my system, and since I have them setup in
BIOS as standard cdroms, they are read as my /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd devices.

You may need to either 'insmod ISO9660' to get cdrom fs support, or
recompile your kernel to include cdrom fs support.  not a hard thing.

once you get support in, use a command like the following:

'mount /dev/hdc /cd1' to get your cdrom mounted.  Some people use
'/mnt/cdrom' as the mount spot, but since I have 3 cdroms (2 IDE, 1 SCSI), I
have to use 3 'cd' directories.  It is up to you.

If this doesn't answer all your questions, please feel free to email me or
drop me a line.

Jon.
Geoffrey Sinkeler wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi,
>
>I'm a linux newbie (installed RedHat 5.1 last Thursday) and have some
>questions which I hope that someone can help me with the next three
>questions:
>
>1) I have problems with mounting my CDROM's. I have a Asus 40 speed
>IDE and a Yamaha 2X4X6 IDE cdrewriter. With diskmanager I found one
>(don't know which one) in the list, but since it is a ISO9660
>standard, I can't mount it. It says that the Kernel does not support
>it. Is that true? I mean 5.1 was released in August last year, and I
>can't hardly believe it. Is there a trick so that I can mount it?
>
>2) How can I mount my Parallel Zipdrive? Is there a program that I
>need to install and if so, where can I find it?
>
>3) Is there a site especially for newbies?
>
>Thanks,
>Geoffrey Sinkeler



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Long)
Subject: Boot procedure docs
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:30:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can anyone point me in the direction of some good boot procedure
documentation?  I don't really understand what goes on.  I know that
each distribution handles this a bit differently, so any SuSE specific
stuff would be helpful.

Thanks in advance

Kevin Long
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "William Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASUS vs TYAN vs Intel board?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 03:04:57 GMT

I've used Intel SE440BX's and AL440LX's with no problems with Linux. I'm
currently using an Tyan 1836DLUAN 440GX board with two PII's with Redhat 5.2
(2.0.36 and 2.2 kernels) with zero problems.

SMP support is good and the onboard sound, 3940UW and Intel 82558 10/100
ethernet are all detected and work great.

Intel's single CPU boards are well made and pretty generic. Everything
should work with them as long as the BIOS is up to date. The Tyan board is
extremely well made, but this is their high-end offering; I don't know how
this reflects on their other boards.

WT
Tom Trebisky wrote in message <78i7u0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>On 18 Dec 1998 21:54:55 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sandip Srivastava)
>wrote:
>
>>What board should I get? I've noticed that most of the companies that sell
>>Linux systems tend to use ASUS or TYAN boards where as companies like
>>Dell, Gateway, etc.,...use Intel boards. Is one board better than the
>>other?
>
>I firmly recommend a Taiwan motherboard from one of the big houses
>(Epox, Gigabyte, Asus, Tyan, ...).  Gigabyte is my favorite, I have
>several Epox boards also that I like, but their quality control is
>not so good as Gigabyte.  I have a shuttle board that seems very nice,
>and lots of folks seem to like Asus and Tyan.  Award seems to make
>the nicest BIOS, ... something to look for.
>
>My worst experience ever was with an Intel board.
>
>As you observe, Dell, Gateway, Compaq, tend to get OEM boards made
>just for them, and then if you are lucky add some wierd idiosyncracy
>to (most often) the BIOS.  If have peeked into Gateway boxes
>and many of them are indeed intel OEM boards.  My biggest objection to
>say Gateway or Dell is that you have to take their package and cannot
>specify exactly what graphics card you want for example (often a big
>issue with Linux).  You typically have no idea at all what motherboard
>you will get.
>
> Tom
>
>--
> Tom Trebisky MMT Observatory
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Arizona
> http://kofa.as.arizona.edu/ Tucson, Arizona 85721
> (520) 621-5135



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: iMac vs PC
Date: 25 Jan 1999 19:31:43 -0800

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mircea  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I really like that iMac; not that I've actually tried to USE one.  But what
>> the hell do you do if you want a bigger MONITOR?  Any of you tried to run
>> Linux on that beastie?
>
>...and where the heck do you insert a boot disk?...

Furthermore, according to the MkLinux page maintained by Apple, Linux
doesn't run on the iMac.  (Maybe they just haven't gotten it to work yet, or
maybe it's too different (no SCSI, USB instead of ADB, etc) to support it.)

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From: Paul Hovnanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3c905 card 100M full duplex
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:34:26 -0800

lopy wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>     We are using the 3c905 TX network card on our linux box
> (slackware-2.0.36 kernel). We set the switching hub to 100M full duplex
> (force). With using the 3c90xcfg.exe configuration disk, we set NIC card
> 
> as 100M full duplex (force) mode as well.
> 
>     When we disconnect the linux box UTP cable, and re-plug again, the
> connection will break out, and we have to reboot the machine. How can we
> 
> fix this problem.
> 
> Here is the information :
> 
> eth0: 3Com 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx at 0xb800, 00:60:97:09:66:67, IRQ
> 11
>   8K word-wide RAM 3:5 Rx:Tx split, NWay Autonegotiation interface.
>   MII transceiver found at address 24, status 7809.
>   Enabling bus-master transmits and whole-frame receives.
> 3c59x.c:v0.99E 5/12/98 Donald Becker
> http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html

No experience with this exact configuration, but try this. After
dropping
the connection, run '/sbin/ifconfig eth0' and see if the interface is UP
or DOWN. 

You may be able to run the ifconfig command (as root) with the
appropriate
parameters to bring it back up once reconnected to avoid re-booting. Dig
around in your /etc/rc* files to find the commands. You may also have to
run the 'route add' stuff again. If this will happen frequently, you
might
want to put all the networking stuff in some 'up' and 'down' scripts to
make life easier.

  
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