Linux-Hardware Digest #807, Volume #9            Mon, 22 Mar 99 16:13:34 EST

Contents:
  Re: Multi-channel soundcard for Linux (Bob Gudgel)
  Re: Multi-channel soundcard for Linux (Sam E. Trenholme)
  Re: Epson 700 Printer....under linux? (Grant Taylor)
  Re: X munges the graphics card? (Re: Windows 2000 Rah! Rah! Session       (Steve 
Smith)
  Re: X munges the graphics card? (Re: Windows 2000 Rah! Rah! Session    falls flat) 
(jedi)
  Re: No CD audio with SoundBlaster PCI 64, :-( (Brad Harris)
  Re: PCI modems in linux? ("D. Keith Higgs")
  ACER Extensa 501T and APM ... (William Daniau)
  4mm Sun DAT under Linux? (Stew Benedict)
  Looking to buy Linux-compatible TV card (CoRey)
  Re: STB Velocity 128 Video Card (Matt Willis)
  Zenith laptop video chipset woes (long) (Mac Cody)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Gudgel)
Crossposted-To: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Re: Multi-channel soundcard for Linux
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 19:46:05 GMT

On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:12:00 -0500, "marc lindahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> , Andreas Eggenschwiler
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>
>>They are not supporting linux. They do support a company that without 
>>hesitation signs NDAs in order to sell binary only kernel modules. They 
>>do not release hardware specs but are not honest enough to openly state
>>their linux-hostile attitude. On the long run linux will die if there is
>
>If you read our Linux press release (http://www.sonorus.com/press.html), you
>will see we are very straightforward about our cooperation with OpenSound.
>
>We explored many possibilities before going with them, and we felt it was
>the best overall course.  If you had ever written drivers for something like
>this, you would know it's a large-scale, ongoing effort -- too big for a
>small company like Sonorus.  We have our hands full just dealing with
>Windows.  And, to answer the next point you're going to raise, we didn't
>release our source code, microcode, etc. simply because that's the
>technology that put us in business, we're not about to give it away for
>free.


Well then, why not just document  the arhitecture and the Linux people
can write their own drivers.
Bob



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Crossposted-To: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Re: Multi-channel soundcard for Linux
Date: 22 Mar 1999 12:00:54 -0800

>Well then, why not just document  the arhitecture and the Linux people
>can write their own drivers.

Hmmm....I wonder how much time that would take?

My experience is that these kinds of issues are usually resolved in one of
the following ways:

* Someone manages to reverse-engineer the device in question.  Example:
  The parallel port zip drive

* An agreement is made between the Linux developers and the company.
  Examples: The agreement RedHat made to get a Neomagic X Server, the
  agreeements XFree made to get Diamond specs

If you read the entire thread, it sounds like the Sonorus is open to the
idea of making an agreement with a developer.  Now all we need is for a
Linux developer to come forward.  I do not think they will force the
driver to not be open sourced.

I could be wrong.  Example: The drivers for the 3dFX voodoo chips.
Daryll can only make binary drivers available.

- Sam


  
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Email address here: http://www.samiam.org/ssi/mailme.shtml
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Mp3 reviews here:   http://www.samiam.org/music

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From: Grant Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Epson 700 Printer....under linux?
Date: 22 Mar 1999 15:37:37 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Pontius) writes:

> Grant Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael D. Knight) writes:
>>> I currently have an Epson 700 printer and would like to know
>>> if there is a driver or utility that will let me use it.

>> A Stylus, I assume?  The 700 series Styluses (Styli?) work all right
>> with the Stylus 500 uniprint driver included with Ghostscript 5.10 and
>> greater.  They work even better with the Stylus 740 upp uniprint
>> driver posted to one of the comp.os.linux groups a few weeks back by

Speak of the devil!  

Have you put your upps on a web page somewhere, or sent them in to be
included with the next Ghostscript?  It'd be nice if I could list the
700-series printers with a link rather than a vague "go poke about on
dejanews" line.  I'd be happy to host a copy on my server if that's
useful; I already do so for an Okidata 4w driver and Lexmark Optra
40/45 setup tool that don't have much of a home elsewhere...

> The Epson 700 and 740 are entirely different beasts. The 700 is a
> 6-color photo printer, while the 740 is just a 4 color printer with
> a price-performance point in between the 6X0 and 8X0. It isn't like
> the others, where the 640 updated the 600 and 850 updated the 800.

Hmm.  You think you've figured out the numbering system, and they get
all screwy on you ;(

Stylus Printer            Type     Jets
Color 740                 CMYK     48 jets
Photo 750                 CMYKcm   48 jets
Photo 700                 CMYKcm   32 jets

> Come to think of it, maybe it bears looking at. The 6X0 has 32 jets
> per color, and the 8X0 has 64 jets per color. Look in the specs and
> see how many jets per color your 700 has. The 740 has 48 jets per
> color. Or drop back to the 500 drivers.

The "Stylus Photo 750" (a CYMKcm printer) is reported to work poorly
using only 4 colors with the 500-series upp files, and better but
still with only 4 colors using your very own 740 upp's.

I went and looked; the Photo 700 does have 32 jets.  The standard
600-series upp files seem like a good bet for the Photo 700.

Anyway, I've put these details, and the STP700 printer, into the
compatibility listing at http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi

Any idea if it's possible to drive the extra two colors in a
Ghostscript uniprint driver without painful contortions?

-- 
Grant Taylor - gtaylor@picante<dot>com - http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/
 Cellphone information: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/cell/
 Libretto information:  http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/
 Linux Printing HOWTO:  http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/

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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:52:47 -0500
From: Steve Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: X munges the graphics card? (Re: Windows 2000 Rah! Rah! Session      

Thad Phetteplace wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Steve Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I started a list of things that would have to be done to Linux to make
> > it into a true "end user" OS.  I gave up about the time I got to
> > "rewrite Xwindows".
> 
> Certainly we would all benefit if X was rewritten, but I would hardly
> call this *necessary* to making Linux more end user friendly.  That
> can be accomplished with a decent window manager, widget set, app set,
> etc.  These things are being worked on.
> 
> Thad

I don't see a way of going from the Mesa (OpenGL) API to a 3D
accelerated video card while keeping the interface clean. (IMHO, one of
the biggest advantages of Unix/Linux over Windows is the ability to run
an application on one box and the associated GUI on another box.  I'm
not willing to give this up.)  I haven't checked the X interface in the
last couple of versions, and I would be delighted if there were a clean
way of doing this.

The biggest problem of course, is things like this, from ATI's website
(http://support.atitech.ca/faq/unix.html):

(begin quote)
At this time, ATI has no intention of writing 3D Accelerated drivers for
any UNIX Environment. We also have no intention of releasing the
proprietary information required to implement a 3D driver.
(end quote)

In other words, we won't write drivers and we won't let you write
drivers either!

And this is from a company that is listed as a supporter of XFree86!


--
Steve Smith                          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Agincourt Computing                +1 (301) 681 7395
"If I can't dance, I'm not joining your revolution."

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: X munges the graphics card? (Re: Windows 2000 Rah! Rah! Session    falls 
flat)
Date: 19 Mar 1999 13:45:29 GMT

On 14 Mar 1999 16:58:02 -0600, Jeff Szarka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 20:18:22 +0100, Henning Strandin
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>:Jeff Szarka wrote:
>:> 
>:> On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:23:47 +0100, Henning Strandin
>:> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[deletia]
>:> Linux:
>:> Edit config files and god know's what else
>:> 
>:> Why does everything have to be so inconvenient? I don't even care if
>:> you can get a program to let you do this, it HAS to come built in,
>:> ready to go, I don't want someone telling me I can download
>:> whateverdalskjflsa;djfla;sjdfl;.rpm or download the source and compile
>:> it. I just want it as simple as win9x/nt, end of story.
>:
>:Then don't use Linux. Simple. Of course, you'll have to live with the
>:instabilities inherent in Windows, but you can't get everything. It's a
>:matter of priorities. I'm not being sarcastic here, I consider it to be
>:a valid choice if that's what suits you the best. I surely wouldn't
>:recomend Linux to my mother for example.
>
>If only more linux users understood there are cases in which people
>don't want to run linux. I was talking to a linux user on irc about 2
>months ago and he was one of those "if you use windows your a fucking
>idiot" kind of people, and he refused to admit there are cases in
>which linux is not a better choice then windows.

        There is a considerable difference between realizing 
        that someone might want to use an OS other than Unix
        and actually believing that there are actually any 
        sensible non-market driven reasons for using WinDOS.

[deletia]

        Someone not taking your pet OS at all seriously does not in
        any way imply that that person doesn't take any other options
        seriously.

        If you can really deal with all the complexity a 'random collection
        of spare parts' can dish out, Linux is not a thing. Otherwise, you
        really should have been buying Apples,Ataris or Amigas all along. 

-- 

  "I was not elected to watch my people suffer and die      |||
   while you discuss this a invasion in committe."        / | \

        In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Harris)
Subject: Re: No CD audio with SoundBlaster PCI 64, :-(
Date: 19 Mar 1999 13:46:33 GMT

I've got the same problem, it is a flaw in the kernel I guess, PCI
sound is pretty much brand new and I guess they forgot something...
The mixer's main volume works but not the rest of them, hummmmmm.....




On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:58:25 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I can't get CD audio through my speakers and my Sound Blaster PCI 64.
>
>* Works under Win98.
>* Can play samples under Linux with /dev/audio
>* When I play CD it seems to read fine, and I can hear using the headphones
>  on the drive.
>* Kernel 2.2.2 with about all the sound stuff compiled as modules.
>* RH 5.2
>* Tried playing with the mixer settings. No effect.
>* cat /dev/sndstat give "Operation no supported" or something like that.
>* I read every HOWTO I could find, and scan Dejanews to death for info.
>
>This is really driving me nuts.
>
>TIA,
>
>Simon Edwards
>simoned (at) eisa (dot) net (dot) au
>
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>http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own    


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From: "D. Keith Higgs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PCI modems in linux?
Date: 19 Mar 1999 13:45:34 GMT

Sounds like you may want to invest in a book on Linux device drivers.  I just
saw one in the O'Reilly catalog <http://www.oreilly.com> for a seemingly
reasonable price.

Keith

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> All PCI modems are NOT "winmodems"... winmodems can be ISA or PCI.
> The reason they are windows only modems is not because of the BUS type,
> but because the engineers who designed them found a way to eliminate
> some of the hardware components of the modem and burden the processor
> with those chores.  In other words, they bog your CPU down because they
> wanted to save a few dollars on parts!  This type of implementation only
> works under Windows because it takes special drivers to make the CPU do
> the work.
>
> There are non-winmodem PCI modems.  Whether or not they can be made to
> work under Linux is a different story...
>
> In article <7c6hcr$ont$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Richard Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Actually, that is incorrect
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > My name is Richard Nelson, and I am a Technical support engineer for
> > Actiontec Electronics, INC
> >
> > We do have a PCI modem that is NOT a "Win" modem, it is controller based,
> > and uses the Lucent Venus chipset.
> >
> > I need as much help as I can possibly get for this, as I would like it to
> > become the first officially supported PCI modem for Linux, and I repeat,
> > it IS CONTROLLER based, NOT windows based, etc....
> >
> > My direct number is 408-548-4772
> > and my email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Eugene wrote:
> > >
> > > AFAIK all PCI modems are winmodems
> > >
> > > Doug wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > >Can a PCI modem be used in linux?  If so how?  Something called a modem
> > > >enumerator is installed in windows along with the modem itself and i
> > > >dont know what that is.  Its creative modmeblaster DI5630 v.90.  Its
> > > >being used as PnP right now but there are jumpers on it I dont have the
> > > >manual so im trying to find out if com and irq can be hard set..
> > > >Thanks for any help and please email me a response if possible at
> > > >ratchet at tir dot com
> > > >Doug
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------  Posted via SearchLinux  ------------------
> >                   http://www.searchlinux.com
> >
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

--
D. Keith Higgs, Collection Maintenance Supervisor
Kelvin Smith Library, 11055 Euclid Avenue, Cleveland Ohio  44106-7151
=====================================================================
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone:(216)368-0559 FAX:(216)368-3669
http://www.cwru.edu/UL/pershomepages/K_Higgs.html

Have you rebooted Windows today?



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From: William Daniau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ACER Extensa 501T and APM ...
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 10:29:11 +0100

Hi,

after a succefull linux installation on a toshiba satellite 4010 CDT
(including APM). One of my friend ask me to install linux on its ACER
Extensa 501T, everything works fine, sound OPL3-SAx works Ok, pcmcia is
Ok, the integrated modem is a winmodem and do not work but the big
problem is with APM. All the kernels I have compiled with APM support
hang the computer at boot time. If anyone has performed this task
succefully or have some ideas, please HELP!

William.
-- 
=======================================
William Daniau
Research Engineer
=======================================
LPMO/CNRS 32 av. de l'observatoire
25044 BESANCON CEDEX
FRANCE
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E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stew Benedict)
Subject: 4mm Sun DAT under Linux?
Date: 19 Mar 1999 13:55:09 GMT

I'm looking at buying a Sun 4mm 8GB DAT:

Brand new Sun  SPARCstorage Unipack
external 8GB 4mm DAT drive 
in a 611 case sun P/N 595-3915-04 
Model X6254A..  In original box with cables, manual
one tape and head cleaner.  

Any reason to suspect this would not work with Linux?  So far I haven't
hit anything that was SCSI that did not work.

Any experience with this partiuclar drive would be appreciated.

TIA
Stew Benedict

-- 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CoRey)
Subject: Looking to buy Linux-compatible TV card
Date: 19 Mar 1999 14:01:15 GMT

I found some web pages relating to X windows programs which let
you watch TV in an X window, or in full screen mode.  I'm interested
in buying a TV card now; my "real" TV is only 12 inches, and the
picture is really crappy.  

I'm looking for recommendations on specific TV cards known to work with
Linux.  I want to stay away from any 'WinTV' cards that only work
with Windows.  It looks like ATI is one such manufacturer to stay
away from.  Also, do these cards mostly come as ISA or PCI cards?
I'm running out of ISA slots, so PCI is preferable.

Also, I'm wondering what type of load a TV card program would
incur on my system.  I have a Pentium-166 with 64Megs of ram.
What % of CPU would such an application eat?  I use a little 386
laptop connected as a dumb terminal, so in the future, I could
watch TV in fullscreen mode and continue to use text mode on
the laptop.

-- 
Corey Carroll
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Matt Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: STB Velocity 128 Video Card
Date: 19 Mar 1999 13:50:21 GMT

Card is compatible. If you use it at 32bpp, you should upgrade to the
most recent version of XFree86.

- Matt

John wrote:
> 
> Any good information on this video card. Couldn't find any compatibly list
> from Red Hat, Caldera or Linux.org on this card.
> 
> Thank
> 
> John

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From: Mac Cody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Zenith laptop video chipset woes (long)
Date: 19 Mar 1999 13:46:08 GMT

I have a Zenith Data Systems Z-Note 325Lc laptop computer.  The
manual indicates that it has a VGA display with 256K of memory.
SuperProbe verifies this and indicates that the chipset is a
Cirrus CL-GD6410 (port probed) with a builtin 8 bit pseudocolor
DAC (with 6-bit wide lookup tables).

I have been able to get the X server working in 1-bit mono mode
using the VGA2 server.  It is fast enough but I'd like to have
some color.  I got the 16-color (4-bit color) mode working using
the generic driver of the VGA16 server.  Here is a listing of the
XF86Config file:

====================== start listing ===========================
# XF86Config auto-generated by XF86Setup
#
# Copyright (c) 1996 by The XFree86 Project, Inc.

#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining
a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the
"Software"),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without
limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute,
sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
#
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be
included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
#
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND,
EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF
MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.  IN NO EVENT
SHALL
# THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER
LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT
OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
#
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project
shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or
other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the
# XFree86 Project.
#

# See 'man XF86Config' for info on the format of this file

Section "Files"
   RgbPath    "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection

Section "Keyboard"
   Protocol        "Standard"
   XkbRules        "xfree86"
   XkbModel        "pc101"
   XkbLayout       "us"
EndSection

Section "Pointer"
   Protocol        "PS/2"
   Device          "/tmp/.XF86Setup104/2385f114-266480f2/mouse"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier      "Primary Monitor"
   VendorName      "Unknown"
   ModelName       "Unknown"
   HorizSync       35.4
#   HorizSync       31.46

VertRefresh     67.43
#VertRefresh     59.93

#  640x480 @ 85 Hz, 43.27 kHz hsync
#   Modeline  "640x480"   36     640  696  752  832   480  481  484  509
-HSync -VSync
#  640x480 @ 75 Hz, 37.50 kHz hsync
#   Modeline  "640x480"   31.5   640  656  720  840   480  481  484  500
-HSync -VSync
#  640x480 @ 70 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync
#   Modeline  "640x480"   31.5   640  680  720  864   480  488  491  521
#  640x480 @ 67 Hz, 35.0 kHz hsync
#   Modeline  "640x480"   28     640  664  760  800   480  491  493  525
#  640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
   Modeline  "640x480"   25.17 640  664  760  800   480  491  493  525
#  640x480 @ 67.43 Hz, 35.4 kHz hsync
   Modeline  "640x480"   28.322 640  664  760  800   480  491  493  525
#  640x480 @ 100 Hz, 53.01 kHz hsync
#   Modeline  "640x480"   45.8   640  672  768  864   480  488  494  530
-HSync -VSync
EndSection

Section "Device"
   Identifier      "Primary Card"
   VendorName      "Unknown"
   BoardName       "Unknown"
   Chipset         "generic"
#   Chipset         "cl6410"
#    Option         ""
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Driver          "Accel"
   Device          "Primary Card"
   Monitor         "Primary Monitor"
   DefaultColorDepth 8
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth        8
      Modes        "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth        15
      Modes        "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth        16
      Modes        "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth        24
      Modes        "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth        32
      Modes        "640x480"
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Driver          "SVGA"
   Device          "Primary Card"
   Monitor         "Primary Monitor"
   DefaultColorDepth 8
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth        8
      Modes        "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth        15
      Modes        "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth        16
      Modes        "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth        24
      Modes        "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth        32
      Modes        "640x480"
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Driver          "VGA16"
   Device          "Primary Card"
   Monitor         "Primary Monitor"
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth        4
      Modes        "640x480"
      ViewPort     0 0
      Virtual      800 600
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Driver          "VGA2"
   Device          "Primary Card"
   Monitor         "Primary Monitor"
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth        1
      Modes        "640x480"
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Driver          "Mono"
   Device          "Primary Card"
   Monitor         "Primary Monitor"
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth        1
      Modes        "640x480"
   EndSubSection
EndSection
========================= end listing ============================

The generic driver is slower than Christmas.  Here is a output generated
by the X server when using the generic driver in the VGA16 server:

====================== start listing ===========================
XFree86 Version 3.3.2.3 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: July 15 1998
        If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer
        than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
        problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.0.32 i586 [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
  VGA16: server for 4-bit colour VGA (Patchlevel 0):
      ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i, ET4000W32i_rev_b, ET4000W32i_rev_c,
      ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a, ET4000W32p_rev_b, ET4000W32p_rev_c,
      ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, ET6100, et3000, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e,
ati,
      sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205, tvga8200lx, tvga8800cs,
tvga8900b,
      tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga9100b,
      tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi,
      tgui9440agi, cyber9320, tgui9660, tgui9680, tgui9682, tgui9685,
      cyber9382, cyber9385, cyber9388, cyber9397, cyber9520, 3dimage975,
      3dimage985, oti067, oti077, oti087, oti037c, cl6410, cl6412,
cl6420,
      cl6440, generic
  MONO: server for interlaced and banked monochrome graphics adaptors
        (Patchlevel 0):
      hgc1280, sigmalview, apollo9, hercules
(using VT number 4)

XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) XKB: model: "pc101"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device:
/tmp/.XF86Setup104/2385f114-266480f2/mouse, buttons: 3
(**) VGA16: Graphics device ID: "Primary Card"
(**) VGA16: Monitor ID: "Primary Monitor"
(--) VGA16: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 31.46 kHz. Deleted.
(**) MONO: Graphics device ID: "Primary Card"
(**) MONO: Monitor ID: "Primary Monitor"
(**) FontPath set to
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
(**) VGA16: chipset:  generic
(--) VGA16: videoram: 256k (using 256k)
(--) VGA16: clocks:  28.32  28.32  28.32  28.32
(--) VGA16: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 90.000 MHz
(**) VGA16: Mode "640x480": mode clock =  28.322, clock used =  28.322
(**) VGA16: Virtual resolution set to 800x600
MONO: 'generic' is an invalid chipset
========================= end listing ============================

To attempt to achieve some display acceleration, I've tried
setting up the VGA16 server to use the cl6410 driver.  I comment
out the Chipset "generic" line and uncomment the Chipset "cl6410"
line in the XF86Config file listed above.  The config file is
unchanged, otherwise.  The server runs but draws an odd grid
pattern on the screen which is unusable.  Here is a output
generated by the X server when using the cl6410 driver in the
VGA16 server:

====================== start listing ===========================
XFree86 Version 3.3.2.3 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: July 15 1998
        If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer
        than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
        problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.0.32 i586 [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
  VGA16: server for 4-bit colour VGA (Patchlevel 0):
      ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i, ET4000W32i_rev_b, ET4000W32i_rev_c,
      ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a, ET4000W32p_rev_b, ET4000W32p_rev_c,
      ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, ET6100, et3000, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e,
ati,
      sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205, tvga8200lx, tvga8800cs,
tvga8900b,
      tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga9100b,
      tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi,
      tgui9440agi, cyber9320, tgui9660, tgui9680, tgui9682, tgui9685,
      cyber9382, cyber9385, cyber9388, cyber9397, cyber9520, 3dimage975,
      3dimage985, oti067, oti077, oti087, oti037c, cl6410, cl6412,
cl6420,
      cl6440, generic
  MONO: server for interlaced and banked monochrome graphics adaptors
        (Patchlevel 0):
      hgc1280, sigmalview, apollo9, hercules
(using VT number 4)

XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) XKB: model: "pc101"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device:
/tmp/.XF86Setup104/2385f114-266480f2/mouse, buttons: 3
(**) VGA16: Graphics device ID: "Primary Card"
(**) VGA16: Monitor ID: "Primary Monitor"
(--) VGA16: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 31.46 kHz. Deleted.
(**) MONO: Graphics device ID: "Primary Card"
(**) MONO: Monitor ID: "Primary Monitor"
(**) FontPath set to
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"

CL64XX: CRT display only
(**) VGA16: chipset:  cl6410
(--) VGA16: videoram: 256k (using 256k)
(--) VGA16: clocks:  25.17  28.32  14.31  36.00  14.31  16.25  24.01 
40.00
(--) VGA16: clocks:  44.91  50.35  65.06  32.51  56.67  20.00  50.01 
80.07
(--) VGA16: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 45.000 MHz
(**) VGA16: Mode "640x480": mode clock =  28.322, clock used =  28.322
(**) VGA16: Virtual resolution set to 800x600
MONO: 'cl6410' is an invalid chipset
========================= end listing ============================

I wonder if SuperProbe is not detecting the chipset properly or
there is some configuration issue that I'm missing.  I can't get at
the video chipset to look at it due to a striped head on a screw on
the mainboard of the laptop.  Any enlightenment would be greatly
appreciated.

Mac Cody
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