Hi

Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm looking to put a Linux box at my work for the employees to learn
> Linux and use it from their Windows NT machines at work, and for me -
> from home..
> 
> I have tried VNC - but it seems that:
> 
> 1. This program is not built to run for multiple users (you need to run
> for each one "vncserver")
> 2. It's SLOW - very slow over ISDN (64k) connection..
> 
> I've looked a bit for a solution which will:
> 
> 1. Run an X enviroment on NT
> 2. Can be used with multiple connection (in other words - built for
> multi users)
> 3. Can connect over modem/ISDN line.
> 
> So far I have found Starnet Xwin & Hummingbird exceed ..
> 
> Anyone here with experiment with one of those programs? are they easy to
> configure? other alternatives?

1. Concerning an XServer for windows - from what I heard, eXceed is
the best (as others on the list said). I never used it, though.
I used, for several years now, both Xoftware and eXcursion.
Both were quite good, with few problems in each. Tell me if you
want specifics, but I do suggest you test whatever you choose quite
well before investing large amounts of money (and these things tend
to be quite expensive). BTW, I think there is a free (shareware?) Xserver
for win32, don't remember details, but look at windows archives.
No Xserver for windows I ever tested became even near XFree under
linux, especially in terms of performance - and that is understandable,
becasue each graphic command passes 2 APIs (at least) - win32 and X.
If one want's to make a fair comparison, one should probably compare
Xnest under XFree and an Xserver under win32 - I didn't.
I can add that I found linux on a 486 with 8 MB RAM to be quite
a good Xterminal (for my purposes), and anything on win32 needed at
least a Pentium 100 with 32 MB to come close.
(I keep saying win32 becasue there are big differences between
win95/98 and NT in this issue - do check your configuration).

2. Concerning the slow connection - as someone said, there is dxpc. I used
it and it works. However, I think it is dead, for maybe 2 years, the reason
(probably) being the addition of the (now standard) LBX (Low Bandwidth X)
extension to X (see lbxproxy(1)). I don't know if it got all of dxpc's
abilities. If you intend to make heavy use of it - check them both.
In any case, it is going to be slow. The best compressor will achive
probably 5 times compression, which will give you 300kbit/s bandwidth (max).
I once checked the load of an Xterminal on a LAN, and got 100% load
quite easily by iconifing and deiconifing a large window several times.
On a LAN. (10mbit/s ethernet, only client+server+sniffer).


> 
> Thanks
> -- 
> Hetz Ben Hamo - Sys. Admin. - Intercomp
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Hope this helps,

        didi


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