On 5/14/05, Yedidyah Bar-David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 10:33:42AM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:
> > On 5/13/05, Yedidyah Bar-David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > common as a server. So the crackers develop means to break linux
> > > servers. If/When linux is very common on the desktop, you'll start
> > > seeing the same there.
> >
> > Same flawed FUD used by the MS camp. Apache is the most common
> > web server in the world and still it is cracked much less than IIS.
> > Same situation (server, public net) still different results.
> >
> > > To get to even more philosophical ideas - I must say I do not accuse MS
> > > for behaving the way it behaves. I accuse the users. Users want "Bread
> >
> > I *DO* accuse MS. They kept reasoning that people want convenience
> > and that they must compromise security to give it to them.
> 
> I never intended to imply that in order to give convenience you have
> to compromise security. What I wanted to say is that MS gives people

I was stressing the point that it is MS's fault (as opposed to your "I
do not accuseMS" quoted above). They made the decisions to
provide insecure software. What could their users do about MS's
software?

> what they want. Most people do not care much about security, so MS
> does not invest in it. Of course doing both is possible, as you showed.

So what's wrong with what users did? They eat what MS feeds them.

--Amos

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