Linux-Misc Digest #606, Volume #21               Mon, 30 Aug 99 21:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  Re: why not C++? (Kaz Kylheku)
  Re: Linux and PPP-Compress errors ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  wu_ftp help needed, Please read at least. (-~=Darek M=~-)
  Re: REAL PLAYER in LINUX. Which ver. ("CHamel")
  Re: Using Disk Druid  to partition a 1.2 GB drive (steve mcadams)
  Re: why not C++? (NF Stevens)
  Re: why not C++? (NF Stevens)
  Re: "unknown" in uname output ? (NF Stevens)
  Re: Qmail TEST.deliver (Edwin Johnson)
  How can the root give permissions to the other users, so that they can  (Donato)
  permissions (Donato)
  Re: More fonts for X Server (Rod Smith)
  Re: where i can get libXm? (Ninewands)
  Re: ghostcript (Frank Hahn)
  Re: What on earth is 'bing'? (Don Heffernan)
  Security: replacement for /bin/crypt (Harold Forbes)
  Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy (Philip Brown)
  Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy (Philip Brown)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:56:35 GMT

On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:14:44 +0200, Andomar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The reference construct will block direct NULLS.
>i.e. GetAddress(NULL) will fail.  The reference
>makes sure you are at least passing a variable.
>So there is some form of extra protection.

You can do almost as well with an assertion. If the function call passes a null
constant, and the target function checks for it. In any run of the program in
which the function call is actually executed, the assertion will go off, so
it's a simple matter of coverage.

If the value is dynamic, then the error hard to catch whether a pointer or
reference receives the value.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: redhat.networking.general,redhat.general,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: Re: Linux and PPP-Compress errors
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:31:54 GMT

In article <7qf448$h9q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am also encountering this problem with a TurboLinux distribution.  I
>have built kernel versions 2.2.11 and 2.2.12 with no relief.  I keep
>going through my configuration file to try to figure out what I've done
>wrong -- no luck -- and I assume it's what's crashing my modem
>connection whenever I try to access anything more than the most basic
>web pages.
>
>I also see at system startup a message, "can't locate module ppp0,"
>which I assume is related.
>
>In article <7pf61k$4fo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "Jeff Rosenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have installed Redhat 6.0 on two separate boxes and when
>establishing a
>> PPP link the following comes out in the message log.  PPP works and so
>does
>> the IP-Chains but the performance from the LAN seems slower than
>Redhat 5.2
>> prior to the upgrade.
>>
>> The errors are indicative of either missing ppp-compression modules or
>alias
>> problems for the modules:
>>
>> Aug 18 15:52:25 linux modprobe: can't locate module ppp-compress-21
>> Aug 18 15:52:25 linux modprobe: can't locate module ppp-compress-26
>> Aug 18 15:52:26 linux modprobe: can't locate module ppp-compress-24
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated !
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jeff Rosenberg
>>
>> "The instructions said to install WindowsNT or better, so I installed
>> Linux."
>>        -- Unknown Linux User
>>
>> Linux ...because reboots are for upgrades...
>>
>> 97.3% of all statistics are made up.
>>
>>
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
        Make sure you've got the latest version of pppd.  There have
been some changes recently.

-- 
No statement is wholly true, not even this one.
    also: remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----

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From: -~=Darek M=~- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: wu_ftp help needed, Please read at least.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:38:38 -0700

I am trying to make a guest only ftp server. I already made
a test ftp account with login 'darek' and password 'darek'.

The wu_ftp version I am using is wu-2.4.2-VR17(1) on an
RH6.0 system.

I want to limit this user to /home/ftp. Another words chroot
them to the home dir. The user is in the ftp group and UID
is 501 (if that adds anything). Can anyone help out? I am
sure this is a simple process of editing /etc/ftpaccess,
/etc/passwd and /etc/group.

Also how would I make the darek/darek account only connect
to ftp, and not be able to telnet in with that account info?

I would appreciate a response by email as my posts seem to
disappear into oblivion and I never know whether or not
anyone answered.

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From: "CHamel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: REAL PLAYER in LINUX. Which ver.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:25:57 -0700

Gilbert Groehn wrote
>I am about to download Real Player 5 for my Caldera
>Open Linux 2.2 box and find that there are three possible
>linux versions listed at the Real Player download site.
>

Personally, I have had no luck with *any* of them -- not even the G2 Alpha!
Real.com's support people have tried helping me and finally sent me a msg
stating that Caldera is causing them fits!  They're trying to get something
figured out, though, so I hear.

...CH




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From: steve mcadams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Using Disk Druid  to partition a 1.2 GB drive
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:13:22 -0600

imho Disk Druid on 5.2 is a bug-filled piece of crap.  otoh i have never
had any problem whatsoever using fdisk.  i have had wierd hardware where
disk geometry was not correctly recognized by either one, but fdisk will
let you specify it if you run into that kind of thing.

if you are going to use the box as a "user", and don't expect to upgrade
every time a new version comes out, play with everything, yada yada, you
can just make a big root partition and leave it at that.  main reason
for separate partitions is keeping Linux separated from your data, being
able to back up partitions separately, different partitions for various
groups of users, etc.  for a laptop all this stuff just might not apply.

obviously all opinion and your mileage may vary.  good luck!  -steve

"Julio R. Escobar" wrote:

> Hi all, I am setting up RH Linux 5.2 for the first time on a 1.2 GB
> HD.  I intend to use the machine as a custom Linux desktop.  When
> booting up with the floppy disk, I am asked to create partitions using
> Disk Druid.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:27:39 GMT

Andomar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>He means the pointer can't be null, like in:
>
>void my_function( char** str ) { ... }
>
>char **i_am_dumb = NULL;
>my_function( i_am_dumb );
>
>
>I.e., with references you can pass a NULL,
>but never a NULL pointer.
>
>The equivalent with references is:
>
>void my_function( char*& str ) { ... }
>
>You can see that you cannot fool the new
>my_function into taking a NULL pointer.

char **a = NULL;
my_function (*a);

This seems to me to do the trick.

The reference is only syntactic sugar. It merely
calls the pointer you pass to the function by
a different name. There will be no difference in the
assembler generated by the two notations. The
purported guarantee is worthless.

Norman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:27:38 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Waugaman) wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>NF Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Waugaman) wrote:
>
>[ snipped - null references not allowed, and I moved the question below
>to before the program for the sake of readability ]
>
>>Which part of the this program is not strictly
>>conforming?
>
>>#include <cstdio>
>
>>char *GetAddress (char &c)
>>{
>>      return &c;
>>}
>
>>int main (void)
>>{
>>      char *p = NULL;
>>      printf ("%p\n", GetAddress (*p));
>                                   ^^ deref'ing a NULL pointer 
>>      return 0;
>>}
>
>This program dereferences a NULL pointer where I've noted above.  It is
>legal by the standard for the compiler to pass the address from p through
>to create the reference parameter c because p cannot be NULL in a
>strictly conforming program - dereferencing a NULL pointer is undefined
>behavior and illegal in a strictly conforming program.

The original quote to which I replied was

>References also cannot be induced to point to NULL in a strictly-conforming
>program, which can eliminate a lot of checking of input conditions (or more
>practically, since most C routines don't check their input parameters
>anyway, can make the use of such routines much more reliable).

So you cannot then determine what is and what is not a
conforming program. The guarantee of having a valid object
to work with is no more watertight than having an interface
definition which states that a function may not be passed
a NULL pointer.

Norman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: "unknown" in uname output ?
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:27:40 GMT

Mike Tuxford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]


>  It seems to recognize i686 as shown in /proc/cpuinfo but
>does that "processor  : 0"  have something to do with it?

That is just the processor number. On a dual processor
system you would have two sets of data containing the
lines "processor : 0" and "processor  : 1".

Norman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edwin Johnson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Qmail TEST.deliver
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 30 Aug 1999 13:19:00 GMT

I've been using qmail for some time and just installed it in a Slackware 4.0
version. That is the only process you will see listed, but should work
beautifully. If you try their send test as described, you should get an
immediate email in your mailbox if you mail to yourself.

...Edwin

On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:33:57 -0400, Subba Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am at the point of testing my Qmail.
>
>After executing the step 9. in INSTALL, I read through
>the instructions in TEST.deliver.
>
>The syslog does have an "status" entry for qmail.
>However the processes listing shows only
> qmail-lspawn ./Mailbox
>
>The following processes are not present as mentioned in
>the TEST.deliver document
>
> qmail-rspawn
> qmail-clean
> splogger
>
>This is the "rc" file from /var/qmail directory
>==========================================
>#!/bin/sh
>
># Using splogger to send the log through syslog.
># Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Mailbox by default.
>
>exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
>qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail
>==========================================
>
>I did not make any changes to this file.
>
>How can I get qmail testing to work? What did I miss?
>I followed all the instructions in INSTALL* docs.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Subba Rao
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/
>
>


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From: Donato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How can the root give permissions to the other users, so that they can 
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:13:36 +0100




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From: Donato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: permissions
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:13:43 +0100

How can the root give permissions to the other users, so that they can
mount cd-roms and floppy drives?


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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: More fonts for X Server
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:12:33 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Jorge O. Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I really love it, but there is still something that I don't know how or
> where to get: more fonts. You see, Netscape now only has like 10 or 15
> fonts, and all the web pages look pretty much the same (not too good), and
> sometimes, like right now, the letters looks really tiny. Is there
> something that can be done? Is that dependent on the X server installed? or
> the hardware?

Your best bet is to install a TrueType font server, like xfsft or xfstt,
if one doesn't already come with SuSE, along with some good TrueType
fonts.  Microsoft's got some very good TrueType screen fonts on their web
site at:

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fontpack/default.htm

Grab the Windows 3.1 archive, which is actually a self-extracting zip
file.  You can extract the fonts in Linux using InfoZip ("unzip foo.exe").
You may also want to check the Font Deuglification HOWTO, at:

http://www.frii.com/~meldroc/Font-Deuglification.html

This gives more detailed information on configuring a font server,
improving the appearance of fonts in assorted programs, and so on.  I
don't know if there are any SuSE-specific issues of which you should be
aware, though.

-- 
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: Ninewands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where i can get libXm?
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:10:46 -0500



Paul Kimoto wrote:
> 
> [Posted and e-mailed.]
> [This is not a c.o.l.d.system matter.  Followups redirected.]
> 
> In article <pHyy3.79403$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, tony lee wrote:
> > when i install Cforge, i rpm it and it came out: libXm need by XXX
> > i m wondering libXm is in which package and where i can download it?
> 
> This is Motif, right?  You need to buy it, or try (to get by with)
> Lesstif.

Actually, libXm is included with several (most?) of the major distros.

To the original write:

    Which distribution have you installed?

> --
> Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: ghostcript
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:00:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:13:20 -0400, Dan Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I think you'll have to either use samba to share the printer for windows
>or get a remote lpr utility for win95 (like wlpr) and print to your
>remote printer.
>
>"Philipp von dem Bussche-Hünnefeld" wrote:
>> I am want to use my Linux Box as a prostscript print server.
>> Therefor I connected it with a Hewlett Packard Ljet 6L.
>> Now I want to print files from my Windows computer over the linux box
>> using ghostscript to emulate a phostscript printer.
>> Does anybody know where I can get help to this topic.
>
Like Dan wrote, if you want the printer attached to a Linux
machine, you will need to install Samba on the Linux machine
and create a share for the printer.  You can then set up a
network printer on the Windows machine to print to.

The only question I have is why you want to print Postscript
on the Windows machine to a non-Postscript printer on the
Linux side.

All you need to do is have two print queues on the Linux side.
One setup would accept Postscript output from programs running
on the Linux side and the second setup would accept native
printer output using the printer driver installed on the Windows
side.

If you are set on using Postscript, then you will need to setup
your programs so that you get Postscript output.

All that Ghostscript does is convert a Postscript file to a
programming language that your printer will understand.

-- 
Frank Hahn

If today is the first day of the rest of your life, what the hell was
yesterday?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Heffernan)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: What on earth is 'bing'?
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:36:44 GMT

On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:30:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank v Waveren)
wrote:

>In article <7q9saj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ramon F Herrera) writes:
>> 'bing' stands for "bandwidth ping".  It is a tool that allows
>> you to measure the bandwidth between any 2 routers.  Probably
>> the most important feature is that you can be at a point A
>> on the Internet and from there you can measure the BW between
>> points B and C.

Lots of info at: http://web.cnam.fr/reseau/bing.html


Don Heffernan
heffernan.cais.net

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harold Forbes)
Subject: Security: replacement for /bin/crypt
Date: 30 Aug 1999 19:52:01 -0500

I'm running Red Hat 5.2.  I have a few files that I want to keep
encrypted.  I don't want to encrypt all the files in the directory, I
don't need heavy-duty encryption, I'm not sharing it with anyone else
so I don't need public key encryption.  I'm used to using /bin/crypt,
but it's not there.  

Spafford's Practical Unix Security said that there was a version of
DES around for Suns.  Does anyone know where I can get the source for
a DES implementation - preferably a drop-in replacement for the
missing /bin/crypt?  Is there another alternative?

Thanks.

-- 
FORBES, HAROLD C PhD N5JCM Maj HQ ACC/SCNN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
University of Central Arkansas, Conway, AR 72035-0001
http://www.cs.uca.edu/compsci/harold/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Subject: Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 31 Aug 1999 00:11:16 GMT

On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:46:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>... I had an LOL experience when I read MS was going
>to ask developers to pay for beta copies of Win2K and then debug for them.

and M$ is laughing all the way to the bank.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Subject: Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 31 Aug 1999 00:13:50 GMT

On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:02:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Leonard Evens wrote:
>
>> >There is a danger that Microsoft will attempt to `absorb'
>> >Linux by distributing its own version which contains
>> >Microsoft only extensions.
>
>There is an even bigger barrier.  Microsoft sold it's rights to UNIX,
>and the UNIX market when it sold Xenix to SCO.  For Microsoft to now
>implement a version of Linux, SCO would have to publicly approve the
>deal.

>???

only if microsoft wanted to claim what it was peddling was "UNIX".
But linux is NOT UNIX. so this is not a barrier to microsoft.



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