Linux-Misc Digest #656, Volume #21                Fri, 3 Sep 99 11:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Help! Hard drive IRQ timeouts! (Edwin Johnson)
  Re: Star Office 5.1: Is it just me ... ("G. Pollack")
  Re: Dual Pentium II shows as Dual Celeron... ("Robert (Bob) McGwier")
  mem change = kernel panic. (HellNo)
  Re: Dual Pentium II shows as Dual Celeron... ("Robert (Bob) McGwier")
  Re: Notepad for Linux? (ORRIN)
  Re: What on earth is 'bing'? ("Robert (Bob) McGwier")
  Re: module-info file in RH 6 /boot - where does it come from? (Martin P Holland)
  Re: I need help, BAD (George Vlahoulis)
  [Q] Editing large (~GB) files ? vi ? (Andrei A. Dergatchev)
  Re: Best Linux Distro? / Best GUI? (SamIam)
  Re: Star Office 5.1 and KDE (msj)
  Re: Information about Perl (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: nonprinting chars in vi (Arnold Schommer)
  Re: Ethernet/PCMCIA problems (Kenny McCormack)
  Re: Moving the console (George Vlahoulis)
  Re: man command show "line ?/? (end)" (George Vlahoulis)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edwin Johnson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help! Hard drive IRQ timeouts!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 3 Sep 1999 13:03:12 GMT

I have a 1.2 meg hd in a Twinhead (486) and get similiar messages without
the clicking after long periods of disk usage, such as compiling a long
program. I've about decided that in my case it is heat related for after
shutting off the computer and letting it cool, all seems normal. I can't say
I really have any basis for this assumption other than observation.

And, incidentally, I backup frequently in case it decides to quit
completely! :)

...Edin

On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 12:41:06 GMT, Robert (Bob) McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Your hard drive is just about dead.  GET THE DATA OFF NOW!!!  and
>buy a new one.
>
>Bob
>

>>
>> -Bart Silverstrim
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ***********************************
>> Aug 30 15:47:13 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 15:47:37 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 15:48:29 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 15:48:59 pangea kernel: ide0: reset timed-out, status=0xd0
>> Aug 30 15:48:59 pangea kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x50 { DriveReady
>> SeekComplete }
>> Aug 30 15:49:01 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 16:02:25 pangea kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
>> SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
>> Aug 30 16:02:25 pangea kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x40
>>  UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=1903504, sector=1903441
>> Aug 30 16:02:25 pangea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
>> sector 1903441
>> Aug 30 16:02:35 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:02:35 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 16:02:45 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:02:45 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 16:02:56 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:02:56 pangea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
>> sector 1903460
>> Aug 30 16:02:56 pangea kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:02:56 pangea kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
>> Aug 30 16:03:01 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 16:03:11 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:03:11 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 16:03:22 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:03:22 pangea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
>> sector 1903462
>> Aug 30 16:03:22 pangea kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:03:22 pangea kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
>> Aug 30 16:03:26 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 16:03:36 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:03:37 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 16:03:48 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:03:48 pangea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
>> sector 1903464
>> Aug 30 16:03:48 pangea kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:03:48 pangea kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
>> Aug 30 16:03:52 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 16:04:02 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:04:02 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 16:04:13 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:04:13 pangea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
>> sector 1903466
>> Aug 30 16:04:13 pangea kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:04:13 pangea kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
>> Aug 30 16:04:17 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 16:04:27 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:04:27 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 16:04:38 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:04:38 pangea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
>> sector 1903468
>> Aug 30 16:04:38 pangea kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:04:38 pangea kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
>> Aug 30 16:04:42 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 16:04:52 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:04:52 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 16:05:03 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 16:05:03 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 16:05:07 pangea kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
>> SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
>> Aug 30 16:05:07 pangea kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x40
>>  UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=1903504, sector=1903441
>> Aug 30 16:05:07 pangea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
>> sector 1903441
>> Aug 30 16:05:12 pangea kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
>> SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
>> Aug 30 16:05:12 pangea kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x40
>>  UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=1903504, sector=1903441
>> Aug 30 16:05:12 pangea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
>> sector 1903441
>> Aug 30 17:06:31 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 17:06:42 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:06:42 pangea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
>> sector 475247
>> Aug 30 17:06:42 pangea kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:06:42 pangea kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
>> Aug 30 17:06:46 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 17:06:56 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:06:56 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 17:07:07 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:07:07 pangea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
>> sector 32964
>> Aug 30 17:07:07 pangea kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:07:07 pangea kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
>> Aug 30 17:07:11 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 17:07:21 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:07:22 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 17:07:33 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:07:33 pangea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
>> sector 163918
>> Aug 30 17:07:33 pangea kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:07:33 pangea kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
>> Aug 30 17:07:33 pangea kernel: IO error syncing ext2 inode
>> [ide0(3,1):00005023]
>> Aug 30 17:07:37 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 17:07:47 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:07:47 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 17:07:58 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:07:58 pangea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
>> sector 166054
>> Aug 30 17:07:58 pangea kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:07:58 pangea kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
>> Aug 30 17:08:02 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 17:08:12 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:08:12 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 17:08:23 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:08:23 pangea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
>> sector 180296
>> Aug 30 17:08:23 pangea kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:08:23 pangea kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
>> Aug 30 17:08:28 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 17:08:38 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:08:38 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 17:08:49 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:08:49 pangea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
>> sector 180312
>> Aug 30 17:08:49 pangea kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:08:49 pangea kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
>> Aug 30 17:08:53 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 17:09:03 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:09:03 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 17:09:14 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:09:14 pangea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
>> sector 245830
>> Aug 30 17:09:14 pangea kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:09:14 pangea kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
>> Aug 30 17:09:18 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 17:09:28 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:09:29 pangea kernel: ide0: reset: success
>> Aug 30 17:09:40 pangea kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>> Aug 30 17:09:40 pangea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
>> sector 245832
>


-- 
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~   Edwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]   ~
~        http://www.prysm.net/~elj        ~
~                                         ~
~ "Once you have flown, you will walk the ~
~ earth with your eyes turned skyward,    ~
~ for there you have been, there you long ~
~ to return." -- da Vinci                 ~
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From: "G. Pollack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Star Office 5.1: Is it just me ...
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 13:09:35 GMT

Alistair Hamilton wrote:
> 
> ... or does anyone else consider it to be THE most unreliable Linux
> app in widespread distribution.
> 
>
I've been using it (with WindowMaker) since v. 5.0 (about 8 months, I
guess), and it's been rock solid. I don't use all of its features - only
the wordprocessor, spreadsheet, and drawing module, and it's rarely, if
ever, given me any problems. My main complaint is the very superficial
level of online help in the English version (I've been told it's better
in the German version); I hope that Sun addresses this. 

-- 
Gerald Pollack
Dept. of Biology, McGill University

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From: "Robert (Bob) McGwier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Dual Pentium II shows as Dual Celeron...
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 12:20:41 GMT

L1 is part of the processor.  External L2, is just that, EXTERNAL.

Artur Swietanowski wrote:

> Greg Leblanc wrote:
> > (...) L1 is internal cache.  It's ON THE PROCESSOR CORE.
> > L2 cache is (...) NOT on the processor core, and therefore is
> > NOT internal cache. (...) the external cache is now a part of
> > the processor.
>
> This is some kind of Intel newspeak that I was not aware of (till
> now). If you read the above, you'll see that L2 which is a part of
> the processor, is called external. To me that's an oxymoron.
>
> Thanks for claryfying my confusion,
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Artur Swietanowski                    mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Institut für Statistik,  Operations Research  und  Computerverfahren,
> Universität Wien,     Universitätsstr. 5,    A-1010 Wien,     Austria
> tel. +43 (1) 427 738 620                     fax  +43 (1) 427 738 629
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------


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From: HellNo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config
Subject: mem change = kernel panic.
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 12:34:36 GMT

Hi linux users!

Well, I thought I was getting to grips with Linux until now.  I'm unning
RH5.2 (2.2.5) on a PII

I had to downgrade the machine from 192 MB of RAM to 128 MB, so I hanged
the reference to the amount of mem in Lilo.conf to 128 MB, saved it and
ran lilo to validate the changes.  I shut the box down, rebooted and
this is what I get:

---cut---
Memory: 0K/0K available (0K kernel code, 0K
reserved, 0K data, 0K init) Unable to handle Kernel NULL pointer
dereference at virtual address 00000000

...

Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
In swapper task - not syncing.
---cut---

If anyone has a clue on what I did wrong, let me know.  Adding the 64 MB
back is not a solution. ;)

Thanks a lot
Ed.
PS: The kernel isn't new enough for me not to have to declare amounts of
RAM higher than 64 MB in lilo.conf


--
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e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Robert (Bob) McGwier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Dual Pentium II shows as Dual Celeron...
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 12:21:12 GMT

And furthermore, what the chip provides is the HARDWARE TO MANAGE
the external cache, and not the memory itself.

Artur Swietanowski wrote:

> Greg Leblanc wrote:
> > (...) L1 is internal cache.  It's ON THE PROCESSOR CORE.
> > L2 cache is (...) NOT on the processor core, and therefore is
> > NOT internal cache. (...) the external cache is now a part of
> > the processor.
>
> This is some kind of Intel newspeak that I was not aware of (till
> now). If you read the above, you'll see that L2 which is a part of
> the processor, is called external. To me that's an oxymoron.
>
> Thanks for claryfying my confusion,
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Artur Swietanowski                    mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Institut für Statistik,  Operations Research  und  Computerverfahren,
> Universität Wien,     Universitätsstr. 5,    A-1010 Wien,     Austria
> tel. +43 (1) 427 738 620                     fax  +43 (1) 427 738 629
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------


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From: ORRIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Notepad for Linux?
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 09:13:01 -0400

On 3 Sep 1999 02:22:58 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
wrote:

>Is there a Notepad-like tool for Linux? Please don't give me somthing 
>that needs GNOME/KDE Thanks Please reply by e-mail

The editor in Midnight Commander (mc) is quite good for test file
editing!
=============================
Orrin - Long Island, New York
Orrin's Caribbean Index - http://www.orrin.org/carib/
Syosset Camera Club - http://www.orrin.org/syocc/
HS Class Reunion - http://www.orrin.org/wphs/
Our e-mail address is at  http://www.orrin.org/email.html

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From: "Robert (Bob) McGwier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: What on earth is 'bing'?
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 13:13:31 GMT

The links in the page to the source do not resolve.

Don Heffernan wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:30:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank v Waveren)
> wrote:
>
> >In article <7q9saj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >       [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ramon F Herrera) writes:
> >> 'bing' stands for "bandwidth ping".  It is a tool that allows
> >> you to measure the bandwidth between any 2 routers.  Probably
> >> the most important feature is that you can be at a point A
> >> on the Internet and from there you can measure the BW between
> >> points B and C.
>
> Lots of info at: http://web.cnam.fr/reseau/bing.html
>
> Don Heffernan
> heffernan.cais.net


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin P Holland)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: module-info file in RH 6 /boot - where does it come from?
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:13:35 +0059
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 00:04:44 +0100 (BST),
Brian Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I note that there is a module-info link pointing to
>module-info-2.2.5-22 in my /boot directory.
>
>Anyone know how much it matters, I'm in the process of trying out
>2.2.12 and I was wondering if this is important.

I rmed that file and nothing bad happened.

atb
Martin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Vlahoulis)
Subject: Re: I need help, BAD
Date: 3 Sep 1999 13:31:21 GMT

On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 01:23:47 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>I lost my fstab but have it backed up and wish to use the backup but it
>says I am in a read-only mode.  How do I cp it?  If I use the rescue
>disk it sticks me in a very limited shell that I can't get around in.
>
>If anyone can help please do.
>
>P.S. I am using RH6.0
>

Well if you dont have a boot disk then I would try something like this,

boot up from your RH6 cd.
When it start the install program press Alt-F3/F2/F4 I dont remember
which, that has a shell ready for you to use. You should be able then 
to mount up your partitions and do the necessary file copying.

I havent done this, I dont know if it will work.

Good luck.

gv



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei A. Dergatchev)
Subject: [Q] Editing large (~GB) files ? vi ?
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 12:41:57 GMT

Hi,

Size of my calculations results' files approaching 1GB
and it takes "vi" about 2 hours to make "5000000D"
when I need it. My RAM is 640M and top reports
that "vi" uses 500M, so I believe RAM isn't a problem.
So why it's so loooooooong ? Is there any other
more suitable for large files editing tool ?

Rgds,

Andrei

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From: SamIam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Best Linux Distro? / Best GUI?
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 08:54:46 -0500

I have found Mandrake 6.0 is the best distro.  You can get it for $2 at
cheapbytes.com.  I was an OpenLinux 2.2 user but I wasn't to happy with
Caldera support so I switched.  The install was painless but I noticed
it was a little buggy like netscape kept crashing and the connection
rate was slow (38000).  I used the Mandrake update tool and updated
everything the first night and now everything runs beautifully.  After a
couple of weeks of use, Netscape 4.61 has not crashed and my connection
rates are 57000.  Mandrake also comes with a bunch of apps even on the
GPL version.  Like you can try out every GUI yourself because it comes
with all of them and you can change your GUI at login.  I personally use
KDE but I've been playing around alot with Gnome.  The Mandrake update
tool is very nice because it does away with hunting around for updates. 
Mandrake is really Redhat optimized for pentiums which is a bonus
because its nice to be Redhat compatible.  I see a lot of posts about
problems with RealPlayer but I installed the G2 RPM and whola no
problems.  I also ordered the SuSE 6.2 eval CD but I haven't tried it
yet since Mandrake has worked wonderful.

Sam

TNC wrote:
> 
> Here's a little flamebait for you all.  What is the best distro and GUI
> combo? By "best" let me explain.  I'm a very experienced Linux
> user/admin.  I started back around 92 with slackware and am currently
> using Redhat 5.0.  I've heard many terrible things about RH6.0 and am
> wary.  What I want is a distro that installs smoothly, has a good GUI
> (OK, this is also a question about Gnome/KDE) and has a binary package
> installation system that checks dependencies, etc...  I liked slackware
> but after a while I gave it up b/c they use tarballs and make you
> compile everything.  As I understand it they still do. Opinions? -
> please CC to my email as my newsserver is slow and flaky.  Thanks.
> 
> --
> "Gun control proposals are nothing more than a modern liberal
> suggestion that government, which is unable to protect its citizens,
> makes sure those citizens cannot defend themselves."
>            - Robert. H. Bork

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From: msj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Star Office 5.1 and KDE
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 09:41:38 -0400

It said the same thing for me (but I am running Gnome/Enlightenment, not
KDE) and no links appeared.  And when I click on
/opt/Office50/bin/soffice it tries to install it again.

Mike

John English wrote:

> I've just installed Star Office 5.1, and the last thing the installer
> does is to say "updating your KDE desktop -- restart the desktop after
> this finishes" or words to that effect. When I restart my desktop
> there doesn't seem to be any change. No new menu items, no new desktop
> icons.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Information about Perl
Date: 3 Sep 1999 10:40:26 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[newsgroups trimmed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ivan Balanya Jimenez wrote:
> I was wondering how to know about the modules of
> Perl that are installed in the Perl package.
> I was told that there is a command that can tell [you] that

For many of them you can run "perldoc" on them, e.g.,
$ perldoc /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/FileHandle.pm

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: Arnold Schommer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: nonprinting chars in vi
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 16:38:12 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I don't know how to enter Hex-Codes, but there is a "verbose" mode in
which you can enter (nearly) everything, including Escape. If you type
<Ctrl> and V (for verbose) within editing mode, the next character will
not be interpreted as a command but as a character to be inserted into
the text.

For your example, form feed, you would have to type <Ctrl>V<Ctrl>l.

Arnold Schommer

Martin Heiss wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> It is maybe a stupid question, but i browsed the whole manpage an
> didn't find a clue (maybe im blind):
> 
> How do I enter a character in "vi" by typing in its dec, hex or oct
> value?
> 
> I want to add a formfeed (12, 0x0C, 014) to an ASCII-text - how can I?
> 
> Thank you in advance
> Martin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.periphs.pcmcia,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,fj.net.media.ethernet
Subject: Re: Ethernet/PCMCIA problems
Date: 2 Sep 1999 12:24:34 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <7qf1kf$gmv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jesus Arango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm having trouble getting my ethernet pcmcia card to work under linux. I
>wonder if any one can help me diagnose the problem.
>
>The card is a 3com 3CCFE575B-DT Fast Etherlink XL
>Linux Kernel: 2.2.5-15
>pcmci-cs version 3.0.14

You get points for telling us what kind of card you are using, which version
of the kernel and which version of the PCMCIA system.

>The system reports no problems but the card does not work. Card works on
>other systems and under win98 in the same system. I set up the IRQ to 9,
>which is the same value I used under win98.

But you lose points for not defining "not work" and for not telling us which
distribution and version of distribution you are using.

For what it is worth, I have pretty much concluded that PCMCIA ethernet just
doesn't work (I will define this in a moment) under RH 6.x - I have been
wrestling with this the past few days and have given up - I will be
switching to Debian (where, BTW, the exact same hardware setup works fine).

By "not work", I mean that I am able to get the PCMCIA system working, I
"ifconfig" the card and "route add default gw", and after that, I can
"sort of" ping my gateway and "almost sort of" ping outside machines, but
after that, it just hangs up and dies.  I can also, sort of, almost, telnet
to outside machines, but it either hangs immediately, or does
"Connected to w.x.y.z" and then hangs.

Suspect some kind of IRQ conflict or some nonsense like that but don't have
time or inclination to debug it...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Vlahoulis)
Subject: Re: Moving the console
Date: 3 Sep 1999 13:40:59 GMT

On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 04:25:24 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:
>I have a PC that's being used in a hospital running redhat linux 5.1.
>At boot it launches tn5250 to connect to the as/400 on virtual terminal
>1 as well as launching lynx on virtual terminal 2 to connect to a pager
>gateway.  The other day, I had to shutdown the paging daemon to
>incorporate a change, and as the console is defined as tty1 the TN5250
>session that is being used to admit patients was screwed up with the
>messages printing to the console.   How do I move the console to
>somewhere harmless like tty4, so when I shutdown a daemon, I'm not
>messing with a running session.
>
>I'd appreciate any assistance.

Take a look at 'man console'

I am guessing that you would link /dev/console to /dev/ttyxx

if that is possible

Hope this helps.

gv


>
>Thanks,
>Brian Seppanen
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Vlahoulis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: man command show "line ?/? (end)"
Date: 3 Sep 1999 13:34:43 GMT

On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 02:31:07 GMT, Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Raymond Cheng wrote:
>
>I am using slackware 3.6 and when I input the command, for example "man
>ls" in one of  the MANPATH (where ls.1.gz exists), it just showed "line
>?/? (end)" at the bottom of the screen.  Some newsgroup said that tried
>to run the command "gzip -dc ls.1.gz" first, but the result is the
>same.  What is the problem? Thanks a lot.
>
>

Is this for all man pages or just one? Can you access ANY of the man pages?

gv

>
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