Linux-Misc Digest #678, Volume #21                Sun, 5 Sep 99 11:13:14 EDT

Contents:
  Re: networking slows down (Bob Tennent)
  Re: chat script with ISP menu selection problem ("Boon Yeo")
  Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself (News system)
  Re: Star Office 5.1 and KDE (Hor Jiun Shyong)
  Re: Help!  I screwed up fstab kernel panics (Tom Fawcett)
  Hotmail anyone? (Yan Seiner)
  Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: You think I shouln invest in Red Hat? (Andrew Purugganan)
  Re: Wrong time setup? (Charles M)
  some questions (nils grimsmo)
  Re: Hotmail anyone? (AD)
  Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie ("kozmos")
  Re: Is is possible to store debug information from a seg fault? (Spike!)
  Re: World Linux Day -- 17 September (Spike!)
  Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: I need help, BAD (Spike!)
  Re: DOes *screen* give me more font selections? (Spike!)
  Help: RH6 Installation Problem (Tan)
  dvorak keyboard (John Doe)
  Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution ("Keith Blakemore-Noble ")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: networking slows down
Date: 5 Sep 1999 12:00:58 GMT
Reply-To: rdt(a)cs.queensu.ca

 >> I have been recently been experiencing a problem with my networking
 >> slowing down.  If I ping my other machine, the ping time is normally less
 >> than 1 ms.  However, occasionally (it has happened 2 or 3 times in the
 >> last week), it becomes a lot slower, sometimes taking up to 30 ms.
 >> However, if I just restart networking (using the network startup script in
 >> /etc/rc.d/init.d), it goes back to the sub-1 time.  Any ideas?
 >> 
I've been having similar problems.  Which kernel and distributions
are the people having these problems with?  I'm using 2.2.12 and
RedHat 6.0, with many rawhide upgrades.

Bob T.

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From: "Boon Yeo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: chat script with ISP menu selection problem
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:20:54 +1000

A puzzle.

With Win95/98, I can established a PPP connection
without having to make a menu selection.  Why couldn't
Linux made to mimic a Win95/98 connection?  As far
as the ISP is concern, that would be another Win95/98
PPP request.  Then there is no need for the chat script.

Is there any way to achieve this?


Boon Yeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7qtit6$1uqc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi folks,
>
> My ISP, at this moment, is Linux unfriendly
> [I'd have to move to another if they don't
> fix that soon].
>
> I had Linux ppp with my ISP until recently,
> when they change their setup on me.  Now,
> I'd have to reconfigure the connection.
>
> But I encounter a problem.  There is now
> a menu of which one of the option is ppp.
> I use chap-secrets and pap-secrets and I
> cannot find any documentations (have read
> all the available HOWTO's) which would
> allow me to select the option -- without
> imbedding my login and password into the
> ppp-on-dialer script file.
>
> Any help is much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Boon
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (News system)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself
Date: 5 Sep 1999 13:29:01 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The question of software licenses is potentially in doubt...if you've
not done so, read:
        ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/softwarelaw.html
for more information.

Chris...

Tim Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>The problem with reverse engineering something like Windows is two-fold.  First,
>it is illegal; the Windows license agreement prohibits it.  Second, Windows is
>just too big.  Windows 2000 consists of something like 20 million lines of
>source code.
>
>-- 
>- Tim Roberts, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.



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From: Hor Jiun Shyong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Star Office 5.1 and KDE
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 20:36:52 +0800

mine too.  i just can't seem to find my newly installed applications like
Mpegtv, Wordperfect, staroffice.

mine is Redhat Gnome.

j

msj wrote:

> It said the same thing for me (but I am running Gnome/Enlightenment, not
> KDE) and no links appeared.  And when I click on
> /opt/Office50/bin/soffice it tries to install it again.
>
> Mike
>
> John English wrote:
>
> > I've just installed Star Office 5.1, and the last thing the installer
> > does is to say "updating your KDE desktop -- restart the desktop after
> > this finishes" or words to that effect. When I restart my desktop
> > there doesn't seem to be any change. No new menu items, no new desktop
> > icons.


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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help!  I screwed up fstab kernel panics
Date: 05 Sep 1999 08:45:41 -0400

[Newsgroups trimmed.]

"Tom Baldridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The message says it all.  I tried to reduce the size of an empty primary DOS
> partition (using cfdisk) from 2 gig to about 100 megs and then used cfdisk
> to partition the 1.9 gigs into several partitions of type Linux.  I did not
> change the mount statement in the fstab, and this (I think/hope) is what's
> causing the kernel panic.  During boot up, the following line :
> 
> sda: sda1  sda2< sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 sda9 sda10 sda11 sda 12>
> 
> appears, followed by 3 lines, all relating (I think) to the DOS partition.
> The first begins starting with:
> [MS-DOS FS Rel. 12,FAT 16,...
> 
> I get a line about Transaction Block Size = 524, then the line:
> 
> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:05
> 
> The rescue disk I made before starting in with this foolishness  produces
> read errors.
> 
> If it is the fstab file I need to fix, anybody have any ideas about how i
> get to it?  I f you have any other suggestions, please let me know.

Your fstab may be screwed up but that's not the cause of the problem you're
showing here.  This kernel panic is happening before the root filesystem
(containing fstab) is being mounted.  You didn't give enough info to tell
what's really going on, but the kernel is trying to find the root
filesystem on /dev/sda5 and can't.  Possibly you created new lower-numbered
partitions on sda, so sda5 is now sda6 or 7?  In any case, get a rescue
disk and make sure your old root partition is still intact (ie, mountable).
Then fix your lilo.conf and fstab.

-Tom

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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hotmail anyone?
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 07:46:46 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Anyone have any info on the hotmail breakin?

Yan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 14:37:09 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the 5 Sep 1999 04:54:05 GMT...
..and Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First task, of course, is to find a decent newsreader. It appears there 
> aren't any, at least if I want to use something a little more 
> sophisiticated than trn, tin, slrn, or other 'cat walking on the keyboard' 
> inspired names. Those were lovely in 1980. This is almost 2000.

Huh? How is lack or abundance of eye candy somehow indicative of how
modern or not modern something is?

I'll give you a hint. Those newsreaders (which, except for trn maybe,
did not exist in 1980 BTW) are very modern and usually provide better
functionality than most of the eye-candy monsters. Has 

> I couldn't 
> find anything under X to compare with Newswatcher on the Mac or Free Agent 
> under Windows. Ditto, nothing to match Eudora for mail.

Have Newswatcher or Free Agent got the Good Net-Keeping Seal of
Approval? slrn has.

> A few suggestions, mostly random:
> Why the SMEG does X write output to STDOUT when you can't SEE it until you 
> leave X? At the very least, the user should have the option of all error 
> messages being written to an X Terminal visible on their desktop. There's 
> nothing like shutting down X and seeing a screenful of error messages which 
> would have been a lot more helpful to know about WHEN I GENERATED THEM!

That's what xconsole is for.
 
> Is it just me, or is X rather, uhm, sluggish? I have a PII 400 and the 
> whole GUI felt like it was running in molasses. Is there some 'trick' to 
> speeding it up?

Use an X server that supports your hardware well. If you don't want to
buy an X server, buy hardware that is well-supported by XFree86.
 
> Directories do not need version names, especially for enduser apps. 

Source directories need them. Trust me. I diddle a lot with source; I
hardly spend a day without compiling a program.

> 'FooBar1.01-45A-intel-linux-2.0' is a *stupid* name for a directory. (Or a 
> file, for that matter). Since the Macintosh, which also permits very long 
> file names, is NOT afflicted with this sort of nonsense, I don't see why 
> Linux has to be.

mawa
-- 
Dead Mule  |  Puke                |  Hell-out-for-Noon City
One Eye    |  Shitbritches Creek  |
                                  -- mid-1800s' Californian placenames

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: You think I shouln invest in Red Hat?
Date: 5 Sep 1999 12:51:07 GMT

Ian Falu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I need an opinion from the technical side!!!

It depends :-) Are you a technically savvy person? Do you have lots of 
time on your hands?

Or are you referring to the RH IPO, not the $2 CD from LinuxMall? ;-)

--
Andy Purugganan 
annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
apurugganan AT amadeuslink DOT com



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles M)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Wrong time setup?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 13:11:52 GMT

On Sat, 04 Sep 1999 23:15:33 -0400, Jack Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>THanks. I tried all, but the time is still wrong. Any idea?

There are probably some other tools that actually set the time
(although the ones I've tried under Redhat did not do so), but this
will work:


If you are set up for GMT but yout bios time is set to local, add 5
hours to the current time and reset system time with timetool. Now the
time will show an incorrect value. But, if you reboot, it will take
the 5 hour (until DST ends) shift into account and show the correct
local time.

Or, reboot and hit DEL to go into your CPU set up and directly adjust
the bios clock to match the time for GMT (5 hours ahead of your local
time). Linux will now be OK. 

First note: Its been a while since I played this game - I'm pretty sure
I'm correct when I say add 5 as opposed to subtract 5, but I'm not
100% certain on the direction.

Second note: If you dual boot, Windows cannot use GMT (even though
that's how it should keep time) and does not adjust local time
relative to the bios clock. If you dual boot, use linuxconf or
timetool to specify that Linux should use local time. Then both system
are in sync (Just don't do anything that requires you to be in sync
with another computer on a network).

CMM


JBGCE (Joe's Bar & Grill Certified Engineer)



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From: nils grimsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: some questions
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 12:28:45 +0200

running debian 2.1 with linux 2.0.36 and pondering about this:

- in ncftp2, i want to get a directory with all of its contents. if i
stand in the parent dir, and 'get -R {dir}', any symlinks pointing out
of the dir are just copied, i.e.: i don't get the files pointed to, just
the links. if i stand inside the wanted directory, and do a 'get *', i
will get the files. how do i get around this. (the ncftp version is
2.4.3)

- i have a printer on a win98 machine (not my machine really, so i can't
move the printer), which is shared with 'client for microsoft network',
and i can easily access it from other m$-machines. how do i mount it as
the standard printer on my linux machine?

- if i am running linear raid on a couple of disks, can i then add
another disk to the line _without_ formatting the linked disks?

- i can only run quake as root (as normal user i get the error 'svgalib:
cannot get I/O permissions'). how do i avoid this? (and things like this
with svgalib in general.) i also don't seem to have a mouse. gpm is
installed and working (at least as far as i can see). does this fix when
i run as normal user?


thanks

nils grimsmo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"du skal ikke plage andre, du skal være grei og snill,
og forøvring kan du gjøre hva du vil"

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From: AD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hotmail anyone?
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 06:26:32 -0700

Other then every major news outlet, no.
Did it happen again?

On Sun, 05 Sep 1999 07:46:46 -0400, Yan Seiner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Anyone have any info on the hotmail breakin?
>
>Yan


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From: "kozmos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 15:53:35 +0200

Pozdrav.

a) Don't blame X-environment for crashing itself. You just press
ctrl+alt+backspace to shut down X. And i would recomend using KDE, as i see
that you are an X-window fan :-)) Linux itself is only kernel itself and
some other helpful things. One of the major advantages of Linux is that if
you need X's you install them, if u don't you don't install them. Try to do
that in M$ environment :-)) So don't blame linux if X-windows crash.
c)Netscape is buggy and sucks, speccialy when it comes on the pages with
Java...i think RH has a solution for Java pages on their site. (or look in
newsgroups). Don't blame linux if Netscape crash.

In general, i see that you have problems with GNOME, so just switch to KDE,
you will probably like it.
x) About that error messages in X: they are printed when they are beacuse
they won't print if there is nothing wrong. YOU CANT get ERROR messages,
when there aren't any errors. (sound logical to me). And at least you know,
why X crashed (usually you can tell from error list, what is wrong), you
don't get just GENERAL FAILURE in kernel32.dll. YOU MUST SHUTDOWN YOUR
SYSTEM. And off you go.
y) Linux in not yet ready for stupid win9x users (my opinion), it has far
too little wizards and that kind of shit. It's for people, who want to know,
what is happening in their computer exactly, not just clicking on icons and
wondering, why this icon isn't working :-)) It's more difficult to learn
than Win9x, because you can do MANY more things with linux and you don't
have "wizards" to help you, just HOWTO's and friendly, FREE help from other
users.  But when you know how to use linux, then you have VERY powerful tool
in your hand. And you know MUCH more about computers than stupid win9x
users. If u want to learn using linux, expect many troubles and sleepless
nights. But it's worth of troubles, especialy if u are working (or want to
work) in computer bussines.
REMEBER, KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.

Za domovino,

Roman

Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> OK, finally managed to get Linux (Redhat 6.0) installed on my PC *and*
> seeing my SDSL line (the last was the tricksy bit). Ah, at last! I shall
be
> free of the eternally crashing Windows OS and the tyranny of Chairman
Bill!
> Liberty shall be mine!
>
> Er...maybe.
>
> First off, I must be some sort of God of System Failure, as 'crashproof'
> Linux bombed on me with Gatesian frequency. A few samples:
> a)When I installed my ethernet card (using linuxconf). It nicely
installed,
> and I could then 'ping' anywhere I wanted, proving I was on the net, DNS
> was working, etc. Tried to launch Netscape. Nothing happened. Tried some
> other apps. Nothing happened. Tried to logout (this is all under Gnome,
> BTW). Nothing happened. No windows could open, it seemed. Finally had to
do
> a power-down to get out of it.
>
> b)Installed 'metacard' (a hypercard clone) off the Redhat applications CD.
> Tried to run the demo. My screen went black and my mouse decided to move
to
> the lefthand side of the screen without my hand being on it. Charming.
> Again, power-down was the only solution. (I did get the application to
run,
> but I've been afraid to try the demo since then.)
>
> c)Not quite a  crash, but several times, when I have tried to go to a page
> that 404s under netscape, netscape just closes down. Charming again. (Go
to
> the Linuxberg page, go to Gnome software, go to Newsreaders, click on the
> first one, it's the only 5-penguin product. Try to go to the home page.
> Kaboom!)
>
> d)A few other crashes, I forget the circumstances. Rather than the robust
> he-man operating system I was expecting, I find I am terrified to do
> anything, for fear of having to reboot yet again. (At least when Windows
> crashes, it displays a dialog box TELLING you it has crashed. Linux just
> sits there, taunting you.) (I know, I know, "I kept my Linux box running
> for 14 months and it only stopped because the local power plant exploded."
> But let me guess -- it was running as a server, happily chugging through a
> limited set of routines. It didn't actually have a real human being
> pounding on it, running dubious shareware, mucking with config files, etc,
> did it? Aha. Didn't think so.)
>
> Now, on to software. First off, has anyone thought of putting in the
> INSTALL text file words to the effect of "you better untar this from /,
> otherwise, you'll end up creating a zillion useless directories where you
> don't want them because there's no way to tell tar to go to the root to
> start?" Apparently not. Do not assume your users intuitively know where
> software is 'supposed' to go, especially if they've been trained on OSes
> that don't give a damn.
>
> First task, of course, is to find a decent newsreader. It appears there
> aren't any, at least if I want to use something a little more
> sophisiticated than trn, tin, slrn, or other 'cat walking on the keyboard'
> inspired names. Those were lovely in 1980. This is almost 2000. I couldn't
> find anything under X to compare with Newswatcher on the Mac or Free Agent
> under Windows. Ditto, nothing to match Eudora for mail.
>
> Of course, of the software I did find, I couldn't get any of it to run. I
> attempted to install Doom (shareware version) and Gnomehack (A gnome-
> enabled version of nethack).
>
> Doom:Untarred it into my home directory. Discovered that it really wanted
> to be untarred from the root directory. Tried to copy it there, found out
I
> had to BE root to copy it to \, su'ed to root, tried it again, untarred
it,
> tried to run it...got some random 'file not found' error.
>
> Gnomehack:More-or-less the same phenomenon. Addendum:The INSTALL file for
> nethack tells you that, when you're done, to just type 'nethack' and play!
> Unfortunately, it doesn't tell you the nethack executable is buried in the
> src directory. It also didn't work.
>
> Thus far, this has been inauspicious. I'm not giving up -- I know most of
> my problems are due more to newbie cluelessness than OS problems, and I
> intend to dive in to man pages, documentation, etc, in order to figure out
> what I'm doing wrong. But there's plenty of people who won't make the
> effort, and, if you REALLY want to unseat Chairman Bill, you've got to
> think about them.
>
> A few suggestions, mostly random:
> Why the SMEG does X write output to STDOUT when you can't SEE it until you
> leave X? At the very least, the user should have the option of all error
> messages being written to an X Terminal visible on their desktop. There's
> nothing like shutting down X and seeing a screenful of error messages
which
> would have been a lot more helpful to know about WHEN I GENERATED THEM!
>
> If you are going to have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen, make sure
> the applications know it is there. Maximizing Netscape hides the taskbar,
> for example. For that matter, clicking on the various task buttons (like,
> to bring up one of my terminals) just plays a pretty 'boing' sound. I have
> to manually minimize windows to find the one I want. So what's the point?
> (Maybe some error message was displayed...on the text screen I can't see
> 'cause I'm running X!)
>
> Is it just me, or is X rather, uhm, sluggish? I have a PII 400 and the
> whole GUI felt like it was running in molasses. Is there some 'trick' to
> speeding it up?
>
> 'Samegnome' is disturbingly addictive.
>
> Directories do not need version names, especially for enduser apps.
> 'FooBar1.01-45A-intel-linux-2.0' is a *stupid* name for a directory. (Or a
> file, for that matter). Since the Macintosh, which also permits very long
> file names, is NOT afflicted with this sort of nonsense, I don't see why
> Linux has to be.
>
> More rants as the situation warrents. BTW, how good is CodeWarrior as an
> IDE? I used it on the mac and loved it, and it's for sale cheap for Linux
> at my local CompUSA...recommendations/condemnations welcome.





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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is is possible to store debug information from a seg fault?
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:33:59 +0100

And verily, didst [EMAIL PROTECTED] eloquently scribe:
> Do you have a core file ? Maybe you find a kind soul who'll help you debug
> using it ...
> (It might be at /core or somewhere like this).

If all the filesystems are unmounted when the segfault occurs...
Where would the core file go?
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|            in             |good to you so far...                           |
|     Computer Science      |   -The BOOK, Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy.|
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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: World Linux Day -- 17 September
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:20:58 +0100

And verily, didst Mike Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
>> * go out and get pissed (OK, not strictly Linux-related)

> Is there some British interpretation of this that I'm missing? (I'm thinking
> there must be... does it mean something like getting drunk?)

That's exactly what it means...
:)

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Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 00:11:27 +1000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie

Lizard wrote:
[chop]
> Now, on to software. First off, has anyone thought of putting in the
> INSTALL text file words to the effect of "you better untar this from /,
> otherwise, you'll end up creating a zillion useless directories where you
> don't want them because there's no way to tell tar to go to the root to
> start?" 

tar has a -C option which specifies the destination.

so you can:

tar -C / -xzvf foo.tar.gz

Regards, Frank Ranner


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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I need help, BAD
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:27:11 +0100

And verily, didst [EMAIL PROTECTED] eloquently scribe:
> I lost my fstab but have it backed up and wish to use the backup but it
> says I am in a read-only mode.  How do I cp it?  If I use the rescue
> disk it sticks me in a very limited shell that I can't get around in.

The rescue mode is all you need.
What yuo do is... 

mount the partition that comtains your backup fstab 

e.g.

mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/backup

mount the partition that contains your /etc directory

e.g.

mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/root/

and then

cp /mnt/backup/fstab /mnt/root/etc

Then, reboot. Everything should be OK.

-- 
|                           |What to do if you find yourself stuck in a crack|
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |in the ground beneath a giant boulder, which you|
|                           |can't move, with no hope of rescue.             |
|   Andrew Halliwell BSc    |Consider how lucky you are that life has been   |
|            in             |good to you so far...                           |
|     Computer Science      |   -The BOOK, Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy.|
==============================================================================
|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+  w-- M+/++ |
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e++ h/h+ !r!|  Space for hire  |

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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DOes *screen* give me more font selections?
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:29:53 +0100

And verily, didst J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
> "screen" has nothing to do with fonts in any way. Screen is essentially a
> terminal multiplexer, i.e. a program that allows you to have several
> terminals running in one regular terminal (say xterm or a virtual console).

And very usefull it is too.

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From: #[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tan)
Crossposted-To: jaring.os.linux
Subject: Help: RH6 Installation Problem
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 14:18:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm new to Linux. I've 2 HDDs on 1st IDE and CD-ROM on 2nd IDE. Pri
master HDD (8.4GB) used for Win95. Pri slave HDD (2.1GB) wanted for
installing Linux.

After selecting "Everything" as package option and starting creating
filesystem, error message came out:
Mount failed: Invalid argument

Here is my fdisk list:
Disk /tmp/hdb: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 1023 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 4032 * 52 bytes
Device          Boot    Start   End             Blocks          Id      System
/tmp/hdb1       *               1               9               18112+          83     
 Linux native
/tmp/hdb2                       10              517             1024128         83     
 Linux native
/tmp/hdb3                       518             1023    1020096         5       
Extended
/tmp/hdb6                       518             550             66465           82     
 Linux swap
/tmp/hdb7                       551             754             411232+         83     
 Linux native
/tmp/hdb8                       755             885             264064+         83     
 Linux native
/tmp/hdb9                       886             1023    278176+         83      Linux 
native

Mount points are as follow:
hdb1 - /boot
hdb2 - /
hdb7 - /usr
hdb8 - /home
hdb9 - /var
        

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Doe)
Subject: dvorak keyboard
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 5 Sep 1999 10:15:57 -0500

Does anyone know if linux understands dvorak keyboard?
Any info on this would be appreciated.  I am thinking
of getting a new keyboard and considering a dvorak.

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Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
From: "Keith Blakemore-Noble " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 14:22:09 GMT

On or around Sat, 04 Sep 1999 22:07:03 -0500, Paul E. Bell wrote
something about "Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution"...

> now if I could get the guys at work to pronounce GIF as "jiff",
> rather than "giff"... 

Argh, nooo!!!

It's Gif, not jif!!

(Unless, of course, one chooses to pronounce "graphic" [the first word
in "gif"] as "jraphic", perhaps? :) ).

:)
-- 
http://www.BuiltWithAmiga.org            Member of Team *AMIGA* and ICOA


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