Linux-Misc Digest #163, Volume #27 Mon, 19 Feb 01 15:13:02 EST
Contents:
Replicate/Clone RH6.2 Linux (Steven Conway)
Re: Can't delete file (Paul Thompson)
HOW TO make a user an administrator of a group or single user ("Didier Wiroth")
Re: Automatic server status watch? (Paul Thompson)
MS Messenger with Wine ("Hugo")
Re: DAMN! my printer isn't printing :((( (Stephen Patterson)
Re: HOW TO make a user an administrator of a group or single user (Michael Heiming)
Re: Looking for something Linux (Andre Kostur)
Gzip error when extracting Kernel 2.4.1 (Yoan Gustavo Hermida)
newbie linux and ftp daemon question ("Didier Wiroth")
Re: newbie linux and ftp daemon question ("Christian")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
another printer question (Kyle Parfrey)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else) (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: fwtmp? (Doug O'Leary)
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From: Steven Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Replicate/Clone RH6.2 Linux
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:18:54 -0500
I have painstakingly set up old OS/2 Warp (urgh) workstation with
RedHat 6.2.
1) I have correctly configured all of the devices by downloading
patches, recompiling, etc.
2) Updated and changed the kernel.
3) Updated the numerous packages with the latest patches (up2date)
RPMS & .tar.gz).
4) Installed, and tested numerous other third party software packages.
5) tested, tweeked and finally have the computer working exactly how I
want it to.
I now need to replicate/clone this workstation to 25 IDENTICAL
workstations that are all connected over a Private internal network.
I was told to look at RedHats Kickstart but I am not sure if this
approach is the best way to do this as it assumes you are installing
off of a CD and not off of an existing system. Am I correct in this
assumption? Can I even do what I am trying to do.
Steven Conway
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From: Paul Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't delete file
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:20:10 GMT
Do you have extended attributes on it?
lsattr plusnode.gif
man chattr
Eric Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Nope, still doesn't work :
: bash-2.03# rm -f plusnode.gif
: rm: cannot remove `plusnode.gif': Value too large for defined data type
: bash-2.03#
: Best Regards,
: Eric Ho
: Doug Forbush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> Eric Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : I am trying to delete a file, but got this error :
:> : bash-2.03# rm plusnode.gif
:> : rm: cannot remove `plusnode.gif': Value too large for defined data type
:> : bash-2.03#
:> how bout
:> rm -f plusnode.gif
:> the -f means to be <f>orceful and delete it no matter what..
:> doug
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Reply-To: "Didier Wiroth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Didier Wiroth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: HOW TO make a user an administrator of a group or single user
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:22:17 +0100
Hey,
How can you make a simple user, for example "toto", who is member of the
group "users" an administrator of the group "public" for example. I would
like toto to be able to change the password using passwd of the users
belonging to the group "public.
Is that possible? If so, how?
Can you even make "toto" owner of ONLY one user, for example "titi", so that
"toto" is able to change the password of "titi"?
Thanks for any help.
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From: Paul Thompson <thompson_n0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Automatic server status watch?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:29:57 GMT
Big Brother is available via the web at http://bb4.com/
Jari Huovila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi everyone!
: Is there a program available for Linux to automatically watch status
: of remote server(s) and send an e-mail alert when a server goes down?
: Watching could mean just pinging the remote server, or preferably
: whether or not specific TCP/UDP services are responding.
: Thanks!
: - Jari
--
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From: "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MS Messenger with Wine
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:43:00 +0100
Hi group, i'm trying to execute ms messenger with wine to talk with my
friends (they use it), and this is the error Slackware reports me:
fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_KEYBOARD_DetectLayout Your keyboard layout was not
found!
Instead of using closest match (United States keyboard layout (phantom key
version)) for scancode mapping.
Please define your layout in windows/x11drv/keyboard.c and submit them
to us for inclusion into future Wine releases.
See documentation/keyboard for more information.
fixme:reg:RegFlushKey (50): stub
fixme:reg:RegFlushKey (5c): stub
fixme:reg:RegFlushKey (54): stub
With the keyboard error other programs work, but i don't know what the next
lines mean, can someone help me? thanks.
>From Spain, Hugo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Patterson)
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: DAMN! my printer isn't printing :(((
Reply-To: see the .sig
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:49:53 GMT
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:09:14 +0100, Reiner Griess wrote:
>Hi together,
>
>i have never had such problems with installing
>a printer in RedHat. /etc/printcap is configured,
>lpd is runnning (restarting does not help).
>
>The problem seems to be there with the parallel
>port?! 'lpstat > /dev/lp0' should print
>some ASCII chars to the printer - but nothing
>happens! No errors in /var/log/messages...
>The ASCIIs are sent to nirvana....
>
>Any ideas??
>Thank you
>
>Reiner
>
>--
/usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig --force is used to set up printers on debian.
Apart from that, can you say what printer you are using (information is
helpful)
--
Visual Basic is a fate worse than FORTRAN
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
Stephen Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove SPAMOFF to reply)
Linux User #142831 <http://counter.li.org/>
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:47:07 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: HOW TO make a user an administrator of a group or single user
Didier Wiroth wrote:
> Hey,
>
> How can you make a simple user, for example "toto", who is member of the
> group "users" an administrator of the group "public" for example. I would
> like toto to be able to change the password using passwd of the users
> belonging to the group "public.
>
> Is that possible? If so, how?
>
> Can you even make "toto" owner of ONLY one user, for example "titi", so that
> "toto" is able to change the password of "titi"?
>
> Thanks for any help.
Hello,
you could use/configure sudo for something like this, but I'm in doubt you can
configure sudo to just let one user update the passwd for one other user.
You could give "toto" the pwd of "titi", this way he could su titi and then
passwd.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
PS. Please don't crosspost so much...:-)
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Subject: Re: Looking for something Linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre Kostur)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:04:13 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Heiming) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>iQXth wrote:
>
>> Back in the day ('93) is when I got my first IBM compatible computer.
>> It came with Microsoft DOS and Windows 3.1 and a bunch of third-party
>> apps DOS and Windows apps. Being new to the platform at that time, I
>> felt overwhelmed being thrown into a system that was pre-built with
>> all those apps. But I had my trusty 2.5"-thick manual that came with
>> Windows to help guide me through everything. There was a time when I
>> uninstalled Windows 3.1 because I liked DOS much better. It just
>> seemed more efficient.
>>
>> Anyway, in the process of learning how everything worked, I'd back up
>> everything to floppy and nuke the fixed disk and start from scratch. I
>> liked this because I could incrementally add software, poke around,
>> and see how everything worked and worked together.
>>
>> For example, I'd install DOS and poke around and see what was there
>> and get comfortable with it. Then I'd install Windows 3.1 and poke
>> around and see what was there and get comfortable with it. Etc, etc...
>>
>> Now, this is why I'm posting to the group...
>> I'd like to get that very same experience with Linux.
>>
>> I want to be able to install the most basic part of Linux and explore
>> it for what it is. Then add to it. Man pages, command-line apps,
>> XFree86, X apps, RPM support, etc... I want the experience.
>>
>> I hate how after installing a distribution like Redhat I feel like I
>> did in '93, very uncomfortable being 'thrown' into the middle of
>> everything not knowing where to start or what belongs to what.
>>
>> I guess what I need first is a very small, fully functional Linux
>> distribution that I can install and build an entirely capable working
>> system from. Something that would fit on floppies like DOS did back in
>> the day. Not something that is so 'noisy' like Redhat. Any
>> suggestions?
>>
>> Know where I'm coming from? Is any of this making sense to anyone else
>> but me?
>> :-)
>>
>> --- iQXth ---
>> Please respond to this thread
>> or post with 'ulvfboqj' in the
>> subject to get my attention.
>
>Hello,
>
>beware to compare Linux and anything made by M$, Linux is a UNIX OS!
>
>If you really want to start from scratch:
>
>http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
I second the vote on this one. Nowdays this is only "permanent" install
I'll do of Linux. Redhat exists only long enough for the base LFS system
to be compiled and installed. After that, it's a mkreiserfs on the
partition...
>
>http://world.std.com/~franl/linux.html
>(many usefull Linux related URL)
>
>Starting with a distro is IMHO not bad, as you get most things working
>without problems,
>there are a few more than RH available.
>
>Good luck
>
>Michael Heiming
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yoan Gustavo Hermida)
Subject: Gzip error when extracting Kernel 2.4.1
Date: 19 Feb 2001 19:06:40 GMT
I'm having problems getting Kernel 2.4.1 installed on my machine: Red Hat Linux
6.1 with Kernel 2.2.12-20. I've been following the instructions provided at
kernel.org, so here's what I've been doing:
1) Downloaded `linux-2.4.1.tar.gz' from ftp.kernel.org. Since my winmodem is
not configured, I've downloaded this file under Windows 98 SE, using AOL and
the ftp utility that comes with DOS.
2) Booted Linux using LILO, mounted my Windows partition, and proceeded to move
the `linux-2.4.1.tar.gz' file from that partition to `/usr/src'.
3) Deleted the `/usr/src/linux' directory.
4) Gave the command `tar xfv - | gzip -cd linux-2.4.1.tar.gz' at an xterm.
5) After about a minute of seeing the code fly by, I got the following message:
`gzip: linux-2.4.1.tar.gz: invalid compressed data--format violatedexi'
Please help me with this problem. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong;
I'm guessing it's not related to the actual file, because I've downloaded it
from several ftp/http sites and I still get the same error when decompressing
the file. I'm wondering if Windows does something to it after the download
that makes it unusable under Linux. Perhaps it's related to a problem with the
Linux gzip and/or tar utility. I would very much appreciate a response. Thank
you for your time.
PS - If you need any more system details, soft/hardware, please don't hesitate
to contact me. I really need to pull this off.
--
Yoan Gustavo Hermida
Weehawken, New Jersey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://yoan.port5.com
ICQ # 87185316
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Reply-To: "Didier Wiroth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Didier Wiroth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: newbie linux and ftp daemon question
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:15:52 +0100
Hey,
I'm trying to use the proftpd daemon, with SuSE 7.0 which installed a
/usr/local/ftp/etc/passwd and /usr/..../ftp/group file. How can you add
groups and/or users to these files.
Thanks
Didier
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From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: newbie linux and ftp daemon question
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:23:33 +0100
"Didier Wiroth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:3a917126$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hey,
>
> I'm trying to use the proftpd daemon, with SuSE 7.0 which installed a
> /usr/local/ftp/etc/passwd and /usr/..../ftp/group file. How can you add
> groups and/or users to these files.
with an editor ?
read the proftpd documentation.
Christian.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:27:55 -0500
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 00:00:17 -0500
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >
> >The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >> Mind you, this is somewhat reminiscent of 1986 tax "simplification".
> >> We now have the alternative minimum tax, which means we get to do
> >> everything more or less twice.
> >
> >
> >Graduated income taxes are Marxist.
>
> In which case we've been Marxist for a long time. :-)
We are dangerously close to becoming a communist country.
> At least in that particular area.
>
> I'll admit, I'm ambivalent about a flat tax, mostly because I don't
> understand the particulars regarding income (versus gross receipts,
> versus net receipts, versus after-tax receipts -- corporations can
> play some interesting games, with which I'm not familiar).
Fuck that.
the only fair taxes are sales taxes and "head taxes"
Income taxes of ANY sort punish those who WORK, while letting those
who live off of Grandpa's trust funds (Kennedys, Rockefellers) without
paying a dime. Replacing Income taxes with Sales taxes reverses
this situation.
Head tax...*EVERY* able-bodied adult should pay a minimum, across-the-board
tax. NO EXCEPTIONS.
Oh, and no deductions for having kids....we should NOT be subsidizing what
people are going to do anyways;
and if you can't afford kids, then DON'T HAVE THEM (Reliable Birth control
has been available for decades now).
>
> And I still remember 1986. How bumpy is "flat"? :-)
>
> [rest snipped]
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> EAC code #191 14d:04h:19m actually running Linux.
> The Usenet channel. All messages, all the time.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Kyle Parfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: another printer question
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:38:16 GMT
::
Had been having printer configuration problems...
I have compiled the patched version of ghostview with the stylus photo 700
driver that I need, but I don't know what to do next. The driver name is
"stp". I have tried magicfilter, but it isn't supported through that. Do I
specify a ghostscript driver in /etc/printcap and if so, how?? Otherwise
how do I use this new driver/set it up. Can it be used for printing outside
of ghostview?
Thanks again,
Kyle
--
"For he on honey dew hath fed,
and drunk the milk of paradaise"
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:39:49 -0500
"Joseph T. Adams" wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy The Ghost In The Machine
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron Kulkis
> : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : wrote
> : on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 00:00:17 -0500
> : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> :>
> :>
> :>The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> : [snip]
>
> :>> Mind you, this is somewhat reminiscent of 1986 tax "simplification".
> :>> We now have the alternative minimum tax, which means we get to do
> :>> everything more or less twice.
> :>
> :>
> :>Graduated income taxes are Marxist.
>
> : In which case we've been Marxist for a long time. :-)
> : At least in that particular area.
>
> In most areas actually.
...almost all of which are the same aspects of our society
which are the most fucked up....
>
> Read the _Communist Manifesto_ sometime.
Quite a scary document.
>
> Socialism has infected virtually every society on earth to at least
> some extent.
>
> (Most attempted flames on this subject will be interpreted by me as
> compliments, so flame away.)
>
> Joe
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:49:39 -0500
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : So why did Gore only challenge the counts in DEMONCROOK-controlled
> : counties?
>
> You'll get no argument out of me about democrats being crooks. After all, I
> live in Chicago, the home base of crooked Dems.
>
> What sucks is that the GOP is not one bit - let alone one byte - above the
> criminality of the Dems. Chances are, we will NEVER know the outcome of the
> Florida debacle, due to the stupid voters too stupid to operate a fucking
> stylus.
>From recent research, it appears that the "bulging" chads are what
you get when an election worker gives you 4 or 5 ballots, and you
try to punch all of them at once, rather than individually.
Stupid Demoncrooks...can't even cheat without screwing up.
>
> Early on with the debacle, I came to accept Bush v.2.0 as the winner. I did
> not necessarily like the result, but I accepted the result. Something has to
> be said about the sorters being fair, even if I didn't like the result. The
> original recount was a done deal. It should have ended there, once the sorters
> were done counting.
Unfortunately, the "lesser of two evils" is still....evil.
>
> Where I work, we have lots of mail sorting machines, so I'm plenty familiar
> with sorters. Sorters are unbiased barring a crooked programmer. All the bad
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is why I dislike anything other than hand MARKED (not punched) ballots.
> chads are ignored with the counting machines, no matter the candidate the bad
> chad is for. It's the only fair way to count the votes, given the voting
> apparatus used.
true.
>
> In any case, vote counting machines should be open source, so anyone can
> inspect the sourcecode to prevent any chance of a crook programmer tampering
> with an election. We may never have to worry about mail sorters, but vote
> counting machines have to be open source to ensure election fairness in all
> future elections.
>
> --
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Doug O'Leary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fwtmp?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:56:28 GMT
Hey;
Thanks for the response. Your solution doesn't fit the problme
which is understandable because I didn't say what problem is that
I'm trying to fix. Don't ask the right question, don't get the
right answer... Go figure.
My linux box has been up for closing in on a year now; the wtmp
file is a mite huge. It's getting close to the point where
the dates will wrap. For instance, doing a
last | grep "Feb 19"
is going to print records from today and from last February 19th.
What I'd like to do is trim off the previous year's info, leaving
only this years.
On other unixes, I use the fwtmp to create an ascii file, modify it
appropriately, then send it back to wtmp through fwtmp -ic. It's
been awhile since I've done it, so I'd have to go back and check the
logic, but that's close.
Anyway, thanks again for the response.
Doug
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