Linux-Misc Digest #167, Volume #27 Mon, 19 Feb 01 21:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: HOW TO make a user an administrator of a group or single user (Terence Hoosen)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Charlie Ebert)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Is my server sending information to Redhat? ("Ernest")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: Reading CD-volumelabel? (Dances With Crows)
Re: Shell access for windows users? (Mark Bratcher)
Re: news reader recommendations? (Mark Bratcher)
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:05:20 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 16 Feb 2001 23:36:41 GMT, Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>: That's why Materialism is hopelessly flawed. We all know that JFK
>>: was shot, but can't repeat the experiment. How do we go about
>>: proving a historical event.
>>
>>WTF does that have to do with materialism?
> Whether or not JFK was shot or not is a question of history.
> The techniques of historians are not the subject of this discussion.
I though we were disscussing how does a person "know" something?
Many have claimed that a repeatable experiment is the only way.
I've given an example of a fact that can not be repeated and can't
be proven with the Scientific Method.
> --
> Freedom != Anarchy.
>
> Some must be "opressed" in order for their
> actions not to oppress the rest of us.
>
> |||
> / | \
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- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
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From: Terence Hoosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: HOW TO make a user an administrator of a group or single user
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:10:20 +0000
Didier Wiroth wrote:
> How can you make a simple user, for example "toto", who is member of the
> group "users" an administrator of the group "public" for example. I would
> like toto to be able to change the password using passwd of the users
> belonging to the group "public.
>
> Is that possible? If so, how?
>
> Can you even make "toto" owner of ONLY one user, for example "titi", so that
> "toto" is able to change the password of "titi"?
The linux user/password security system is limited to one super user ID.
If all you want to do is allow "toto" to change the password of any
member of the "public" group (as per your example), then might I suggest
writing a utility in C which affected the appropriate passwd command,
and give only toto the permission to execute the program. As I
understand, linux effectively does not allow setuid shell scripts.
Security experts, please correct me!
-Tez
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:12:09 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
As I was saying. To force the REPUBLICAN TO BUY A LICENSE
for every copy of Microsoft Windows installed on every machine
would be ALIEN and UNKNOWN to him!
It would be as alien as not having prayer in schools!
It would be as alien as not being able to buy a gun!
It would be as alien as anybody who's not a christian!
And then there is AK.
>
>Fuck that.
>
>the only fair taxes are sales taxes and "head taxes"
>
>Income taxes of ANY sort punish those who WORK, while letting those
>who live off of Grandpa's trust funds (Kennedys, Rockefellers) without
>paying a dime. Replacing Income taxes with Sales taxes reverses
>this situation.
>
>Head tax...*EVERY* able-bodied adult should pay a minimum, across-the-board
>tax. NO EXCEPTIONS.
>
>Oh, and no deductions for having kids....we should NOT be subsidizing what
>people are going to do anyways;
>and if you can't afford kids, then DON'T HAVE THEM (Reliable Birth control
>has been available for decades now).
It would be as alien to them as preaching Birth Control!
GOD SAVE YOUR SOUL AK.....
If we can't steal copyrighted Windows then must we practice birth control
too Mr. AK. I'm positive the planet can contain 10 billion people.
--
Charlie
**DEBIAN** **GNU**
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:02:07 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : That's why Materialism is hopelessly flawed. We all know that JFK
> : was shot, but can't repeat the experiment. How do we go about
> : proving a historical event.
> WTF does that have to do with materialism?
Materialism claims that nothing can be known but from observation
of the 5 senses.
I'm arguing that there are other ways to know something. In this
case the historical record.
The event can not be repeated, but can be known.
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- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:08:46 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Surenko wrote:
>> That's why Materialism is hopelessly flawed. We all know that JFK
>> was shot, but can't repeat the experiment. How do we go about
>> proving a historical event.
> Zapruder film.
> Autopsy.
> Funeral.
> Case closed.
Ah, so there are other ways than direct observation and
repeateable experimental results to "know" something?
Good, we are getting somewhere.
So, we both have faith in the historical record?
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
--
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- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:18:09 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : My comments where not being used as a proof. I am bored by Materialist
> : because their phylosophy is so easily shown to be false.
> Nobody's done it yet. WTF are you talking about?
Well, I'm trying to keep track of 3 or 4 threads but I'll give it a shot.
Materialism is beleiving only in what the 5 senses show you.
Things are either objective or subjective.
Rocks, houses and computers are objects. I like to read because
of complex chemical reactions. The I thing doesn't really exist.
But, what is quality, or ethics or value?
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- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:18:37 -0500
Robert Surenko wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:54:03 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:00:09 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:38:45 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>>In comp.os.linux.misc Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Mercer) writes:
> >>>>
> >>
> >>I agree, so what. I'm saying that Science depends on faith.
>
> > That the universe works in a predictable fashion is not
> > an article of faith. It is an axiom that is time tested.
>
> Study physics... The universe does not work in a predictable fashion.
> That stuff ent out with Newton.
>
No...Newton's laws are predictable.
It was Bohr and Heisenberg who brought in unpredictability
> Axiom is "self-evident" truth. Most thinks have found great profit
> by challenging them.
>
> > [deletia]
>
> > You can choose to violate the rules and prove us wrong
> > in the process. Somehow, I suspect that you will choose
> > not to for your own survival.
>
> What rules? Are you asking me to bow to Science again?
>
> > If you really believe the blather your spewing, you have
> > the easy position in terms of proof or disproof.
>
> Are you slow? I have asked for proof that the Scientic Method
> can lead to "Truth"
>
> Since you argue like a school boy on the playground I'll decend
> to your level.
>
> I asked for proof first...Na na na na na!
>
> > --
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - http://www.fred.net/surenko/
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Is my server sending information to Redhat?
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:24:34 GMT
Holy Smokes! What's this crap about? This is the kind of BS that Microsoft
pulls. Is it time to begin refering to Redhat as the Microsoft of the Linux
community? Do all versions of Redhat 7 behave in this way, or is it just the
server? I'm really bothered by this. I know that Redhat is trying to be
corporate but is it also trying to be big brother?
Does SuSE "feature" this same security breech?
Ernest
"Steve Connet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Londonboy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I installed a Redhat 7.0 server behind the firewall, I use packet
filtering
> > to log all the packets and I found out that for every 5-10 minutes, my
> > server tries to contact 216.148.218.160:443 which is
> > "head.rwc.rhns.redhat.com"
> >
> > Do you guys know what is this? is my server sending information to
Redhat?
> > and how can I disable it on my Redhat service?
> >
> > N.B
> >
> >
>
> There exists a daemon called "rhnsd" which is described as:
>
> This is a daemon which handles the task of connecting periodically to
> the Red Hat Network servers to check for updates, notifications and
> perform system monitoring tasks according to the service level that
> this server is subscribed for
>
> You can turn this off by su'ing to root then typing:
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/rhnsd stop
>
> If you want to turn it off so that it doesn't start on bootup,
> su to root and type:
>
> /usr/sbin/ntsysv
>
> Uncheck "rhnsd". You can also press F1 on each item listed so you can
> currently understand what deamons are starting up when you boot your
> machine. Turn off stuff you don't want.
>
> THe 'ntssyv' program will turn daemons on/off for the current run
> level. If you change run levels you'll have to do it for that run
> level.
>
> If you want to turn daemons on/off for all run levels use the utility:
>
> /sbin/chkconfig
>
> If this has been helpful to you please let me know.
>
> --
> Steve Connet ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:25:36 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> : My comments where not being used as a proof. I am bored by Materialist
>> : because their phylosophy is so easily shown to be false.
>> Nobody's done it yet. WTF are you talking about?
> I think we need to help him here... He appears not to know what the word
> materialism means...
> The goal of materialism is to acquire money and things to improve your
> quality of life at the cost of moral/spiritual/whatever health...
Matrialism is defined as, "The doctrine that everything in the world,
including thought, can be explained only in terms of matter" - Websters
Your's is the second definition, and is not usually a part of
Metaphysics.
> --
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |
> |Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)| "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't |
> | in | suck is probably the day they start making |
> | Computer science | vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge |
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- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Reading CD-volumelabel?
Date: 20 Feb 2001 02:03:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:27:58 +0100, Michael Schaarwaechter staggered
into the Black Sun and said:
>I wonder if it is possible to read a volumelabel of a CD from Linux. I
>found no hint in any manpage.
isoinfo ? It's part of the cdrecord package. isoinfo -d will probably
do what you want. Or look through the mkisofs source, find the byte
offset where the volume label is, seek() to that offset and read() the
bytes.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Subject: Re: Shell access for windows users?
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 02:00:20 GMT
In article <bmik6.5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matt O'Toole wrote:
>I want to give shell access to some Windows users. I dont want to use
>telnet. Is there a free ssh client available for Windows?
>
>Matt O.
>
I use PuTTY. You can search for it directly on the internet.
Supports SSH1 and SSH2 as well as telnet, and is endlessly
configurable. :-)
--
Mark Bratcher
To reply direct, remove both underscores (_) from my email name
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Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Subject: Re: news reader recommendations?
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 02:02:20 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stan McCann wrote:
>Can anyone give me some recommendations for a good news reader that is
>as easy to install and use as NS but can filter out (kill file) posters?
>
>So far, I have downloaded and tried to install or use pan (I don't use
>gnome so am not going to install it), knews (threading is ok but I want
>to see all the messages), kexpress (just closes when I try to read a
>group), knode (installation is looking for unknown dependencies), and
>xrn (might as well use tin, rn, or some other cli reader).
>
>I want something with a GUI; the only thing wrong with NS is that I
>can't killfile the people that keep clogging up this group with off
>topic religious and political posts.
>
Stan,
If you ever give up on the GUI requirement, I'd recommend slrn.
I used NS for awhile and decided to try slrn because I had heard
from several that they really liked it. You don't necessarily feel
right at home from the get go (always true when changing UIs), but
there's a lot of power in it and it is easy to use when you learn
a few basic keystrokes.
--
Mark Bratcher
To reply direct, remove both underscores (_) from my email name
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