Linux-Misc Digest #172, Volume #27 Tue, 20 Feb 01 07:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: Remove Windows disk? ("Eric")
Re: POP3 account setup ? (Michael Heiming)
Re: MS Messenger with Wine ("Hugo")
Re: Slackware Package building (Stanislaw Flatto)
Re: news reader recommendations? ("Nils O. Selåsdal")
Re: Supermount for 2.4.1? ("Nils O. Selåsdal")
Re: Shell access for windows users? (Ernst Sexauer)
Re: Leafnode Newsserver in Intranet (Ernst Sexauer)
NFS behaviour (Christoph Kukulies)
Two Linuces in a box? (Ana Lyric)
Re: Acrobat and Netscape6 (Jean-David Beyer)
What is this? ("rc")
Re: Looking for something Linux (Jean-David Beyer)
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Remove Windows disk?
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:11:47 +0100
> I have a PC that dual boots between Windows 95 on the primary master HD
and
> SuSE Linux 6.3 on the primary slave HD. I want to remove the windows disk
> and just run Linux. What will I need to do?
>
> I'm guessing that all the entries in /etc/fstab will need changing as the
> Linux disk will now become the primary master drive (hda instead of hdb?).
> What else will I need to do and how will I boot the machine after the
> Windows disk has been removed?
>
make a bootfloppy,
change fstab,
reboot, and at the lilo prompt enter "linux root=/dev/hdaXXX"
change lilo.conf
run `/sbin/lilo -v`
and all works perfectly again.
Eric
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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: POP3 account setup ?
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:27:12 +0100
Eric Chow wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Would you please to teach me how to create a POP3 account that only can
> receive mail but not allow telnet, rlogin, rsh, FTP, and any others ?
>
> Anyway this account only can use to receive email or use a mail client to
> get smail.
>
> Is there any shell script to do this in one step ?
>
> Best regards,
> Eric
Hello,
you don't write which distro you use, as some have
tools (ie. SuSE - yast) that let you set up a new user without much work,
but you
can use useradd anyway.
Set this users shell to /sbin/false, he won't be able to login this way, put
his name in
/etc/ftpusers to denie ftp access, you may need to give this user a home
dir, that way
you could use procmail, if you want/need, but you don't write what kind of
MTA you're
using.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Messenger with Wine
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:24:00 +0100
You say right, hehe, if i have time (and i can do it) i'll try it, but i
want to know too, if it's possible to run messenger (maybe i don't explain
myself correctly), because other programs work with the keyboard error.
Hugo
"James Denson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió en el mensaje
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:43:00 +0100, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi group, i'm trying to execute ms messenger with wine to talk with
my
> >friends (they use it), and this is the error Slackware reports me:
> >
> >fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_KEYBOARD_DetectLayout Your keyboard layout was not
> >found!
> >Instead of using closest match (United States keyboard layout (phantom
key
> >version)) for scancode mapping.
> >Please define your layout in windows/x11drv/keyboard.c and submit them
> >to us for inclusion into future Wine releases.
> >See documentation/keyboard for more information.
> >fixme:reg:RegFlushKey (50): stub
> >fixme:reg:RegFlushKey (5c): stub
> >fixme:reg:RegFlushKey (54): stub
> >
> >With the keyboard error other programs work, but i don't know what the
next
> >lines mean, can someone help me? thanks.
> >
> >From Spain, Hugo
> >
>
> WINE is still in developement, and often gives fixme errors. The idea
> is you look in the source of WINE (you have got the source, haven't
> you... :-) and update the keyboard.c file with your unknown (to WINE)
> keyboard layout, and let them know so the next version is more
> fixed/less buggy.
>
> However, I assume that like me, you neither have the time or knowledge
> to do the above!
>
> HTH.
>
> JD
>
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Slackware Package building
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:41:25 +1100
Go alt.os.linux.slackware.
Old and new Slackers sit there and discuss such subjects every day.
Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladulla.
David wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Sorry if this is a double/triple post but I don't find my other ones
> anywhere.
>
> I have just switched one of my systems from redhat back to slackware
> (Yes That's right back to slackware) and I'm updating packages on it. It
> has been a couple of years since I used Slackware and don't remember how
> to include the description of the package so that when using the
> Slackware setup tool it will show the description for the package?
>
> Right now it just shows the package like this.
> -------------------
>
> Package Name: ==>control<==
>
> Size: Compressed: xxx K uncompressed: xxx K
>
> ---------------
> But I want it to show something like this, from the original package.
> ----------------
> Package Name: ==>control<==
>
> control-center-1.2.2
>
> The GNOME control center. Control-center is a configuration tool for
> easily setting up your GNOME environment. GNOME is the GNU Network
> Object Model Environment. That's a fancy name, but really GNOME is a
> nice GUI desktop environment. It's a powerful, easy to configure
> environment which helps to make your computer easy to use.
>
> Size: Compressed xxx K uncompressed: xxx K
>
> ------------------
> Any one know what I need to add to my script so that the the package and
> description are included with the package?
>
> Thanks.
> David
>
> --
> Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
> Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
> ID # 123538
> Completed more W/U's than 99.071% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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Reply-To: "Nils O. Selåsdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Nils O. Selåsdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: news reader recommendations?
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:31:08 +0100
"Stan McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Can anyone give me some recommendations for a good news reader that is
> as easy to install and use as NS but can filter out (kill file) posters?
>
> So far, I have downloaded and tried to install or use pan (I don't use
> gnome so am not going to install it), knews (threading is ok but I want
> to see all the messages), kexpress (just closes when I try to read a
> group), knode (installation is looking for unknown dependencies), and
> xrn (might as well use tin, rn, or some other cli reader).
>
> I want something with a GUI; the only thing wrong with NS is that I
> can't killfile the people that keep clogging up this group with off
> topic religious and political posts.
knode, comes with KDE2 www.kde.org. very good!
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Reply-To: "Nils O. Selåsdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Nils O. Selåsdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Supermount for 2.4.1?
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:32:20 +0100
"David Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Will the 2.4.0final supermount patch
> (http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/8144/supermount.html) work
with
> kernel 2.4.1? I've been having some trouble patching the 2.4.1 tree,
getting
> this error:
>
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file
linux-2.4/fs/Config.in.rej
> 1 out of 6 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file linux-2.4/fs/super.c.rej
You must wait..
or you can try applying the patch to the 2.4.0 kernel, then apply the 2.4.1
patch..
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From: Ernst Sexauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shell access for windows users?
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:34:26 +0100
Matt O'Toole schrieb:
> I want to give shell access to some Windows users. I dont want to use
> telnet. Is there a free ssh client available for Windows?
>
> Matt O.
I have tried Putty and Teraterm. Putty has the advantage to support almost
any function-key.
Best regards
E.R. Sexauer
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From: Ernst Sexauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Leafnode Newsserver in Intranet
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:39:09 +0100
niketan sharma schrieb:
> hello
> somebody told me to use Leafnode newsserver for my intranet now the
> problem is in configuration i cannot creat my own newsgroup i only want
> internal newsgroup server no connection form outside (internet) suggest me
> how to do i am using linux 5.2 and it is working as dail up mail server
> for my company
>
Leafnode needs a news-feeder. It will not work without. I guess what you need
is inn.
Best regards
E.R. Sexauer
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From: Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NFS behaviour
Date: 20 Feb 2001 11:03:40 GMT
Imagine the following situation:
Host A exports a filesystem. Host B mounts it.
process on A edits and writes a file. Process on B watches
that file and looks for modification. When gets process on host B (client)
notification of the file having changed?
In our network (client/server Linux RH 6.1) we are observing very long delays
(minutes) in the synchronization.
Please Cc: me
--
Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Ana Lyric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Two Linuces in a box?
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:36:01 +0300
Hello,
Does anyone know whether it is possible to have
two Linuces (or more :-)) installed in one computer?
I am just sick and tired of RH7.0 and I would like
to try something else.
TIA,
Ana
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Acrobat and Netscape6
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:35:02 -0500
The Real Bev wrote:
>
> E J wrote:
> >
> > Don't MIME me :)
> > Edit->Preferences->Navigator->Helper Application->
> > Extension: PDF
> > MIME Type: application/pdf
> > Application: /usr/local/bin/acroread
> >
> > 1/5 of Real Player still does not work. All Real Player mime extensions
> > work except for the plug-in itself.
> > Plugger does not work.
> > Flash 4 works but Flash 5 does not work under either Netscape 4.76 or 6.0
> > under KDE but works on Gnome.
> >
> > Mike Goldsbury wrote:
> >
> > > Jay & Michelle wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mike Goldsbury wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Jay & Michelle wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Mike Goldsbury wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Got Real Player working in Netscape6.01 now has any one gotten
> > > > > > > Acrobat to work as a plugin or helper app. If so how?
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Mike Goldsbury
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Get the Acrobat plugin and install it into the Netscape plugin
> > > > > > directory?
>
> You'd think so, wouldn't you. Wanna hear something sick?
>
> When I installed Acrobat as a plugin for NS4.75 it hijacked all my other
> plugins by registering /usr/local/Acrobat4/Browsers/intellinux/ as
> Netscape's defined plugin directory. After screwing around for a LONG time
> trying to get things to work I threw in the towel and copied all the
> plugins to that subdirectory. Acroread is still a piece of shit, of
> course, but it reads more .pdf files than xpdf.
Sure, but I cannot print many .pdf files with acroread that I can
print from xpdf. So there must be bugs in acroread that are absent
in xpdf. acroread can display them just fine on my monitor, though.
So they must both have bugs, but different ones. Grrrr. (I have
acroread 4.05 at the moment, but 4.0 had the same problem.)
>
> > > > > It's in there but not seen.
> > > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > /usr/lib/netscape/plugins
> > > >
> > > In that location works great in Communicator 4.75 but doesn't help NS6 at
> > > all.
> > > Mike
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Bev
> ************************************************
> Horn broken. Watch for finger.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 6:30am up 22 days, 14:57, 4 users, load average: 2.22, 2.16,
2.10
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From: "rc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What is this?
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:47:24 GMT
Feb 19 02:34:17 lnx sendmail[763]: CAA00763: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User
unknown
Feb 19 02:34:17 lnx sendmail[763]: CAA00763: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown
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size=
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[209.6
3.113.212]
I keep finding this in my maillog. I also find this in my messages log:
Feb 19 22:54:14 lnx rpc.statd[329]: gethostbyname error for
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Does anyone have any idea?
--
Robert
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for something Linux
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:05:35 -0500
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> >> I've simply never been able to work out how to resize windows in gnome.
> >> Choose resize from the menu, and the cursor changes shape OK. Go to a corner
> >> or edge with it and nothing happens. So give up and click, and it reverts
> >> to normal.
>
> > I wonder what version of GNOME/Enlightenment you are using. I am
>
> It's not my machine(s). It appears to be RH 6.1.
>
> > using the following stuff:
>
> There is no rpm dbase, but then they're clients. I wouldn't swear to
> the window manager being enlightenment. I have enlightenment on my own
> machine, and although it IS incomprehensible, it looks prettier and
> behaves better (just a silliness with large menus overflowing the
> window and also displacing the cursor into a submenu when you click,
> which are, however, fatal in combination).
>
> > valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome
> > gnome-audio-1.0.0-8
> > gnome-libs-1.0.55-12
>
> THe best guess I can make is from enlightenments libs:
>
> ldd `which enlightenment`
> libFnlib.so.0 => /usr/lib/libFnlib.so.0 (0x4001a000)
> libttf.so.2 => /usr/lib/libttf.so.2 (0x40022000)
> libesd.so.0 => /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 (0x40037000)
> libaudiofile.so.0 => /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0 (0x4003e000)
> ...
>
When I do that, I get this (on my 6.2.3 system):
valinux:jdbeyer[/usr/local/Downloaded/Adobe]$ ldd `which
enlightenment`
libFnlib.so.0 => /usr/lib/libFnlib.so.0 (0x4001b000)
libttf.so.2 => /usr/lib/libttf.so.2 (0x40024000)
libesd.so.0 => /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 (0x4004b000)
libaudiofile.so.0 => /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0 (0x40052000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40065000)
libImlib.so.1 => /usr/lib/libImlib.so.1 (0x40082000)
libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x400b0000)
libtiff.so.3 => /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 (0x400d0000)
libungif.so.4 => /usr/lib/libungif.so.4 (0x40113000)
libpng.so.2 => /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 (0x4011b000)
libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x40146000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40154000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40160000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x4016a000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40181000)
libXtst.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so.6 (0x40225000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4022b000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4022f000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
valinux:jdbeyer[/usr/local/Downloaded/Adobe]$
and this on my R.H.L. 6.0 system:
touchl:jdbeyer[~]$ ldd `which enlightenment`
libFnlib.so.0 => /usr/lib/libFnlib.so.0 (0x4001a000)
libttf.so.2 => /usr/lib/libttf.so.2 (0x40022000)
libesd.so.0 => /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 (0x40037000)
libaudiofile.so.0 => /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0 (0x4003e000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40050000)
libImlib.so.1 => /usr/lib/libImlib.so.1 (0x4006d000)
libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x40099000)
libtiff.so.3 => /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 (0x400b8000)
libungif.so.4 => /usr/lib/libungif.so.4 (0x400f7000)
libpng.so.2 => /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 (0x400ff000)
libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x4011c000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x4012b000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40138000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x40141000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40158000)
libXtst.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so.6 (0x401fc000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40201000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
touchl:jdbeyer[~]$
> ...
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 27769 Apr 19 1999 /usr/lib/libesd.so.0.2.10
> ...
>
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Feb 17 12:31 /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 ->
libesd.so.0.2.20
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 24592 Oct 5 19:00 /usr/lib/libesd.so.0.2.20
> and also gnomelibs:
>
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 100860 Jul 21 1999 /usr/lib/libgnome.so.32.3.3
valinux:jdbeyer[/usr/lib]$ ls -l libgnome*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 123142 Aug 1 2000 libgnome.a
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Jan 22 18:00 libgnome.so ->
libgnome.so.32.3.8
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Jan 22 17:58 libgnome.so.32 ->
libgnome.so.32.3.8
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 108112 Aug 1 2000 libgnome.so.32.3.8
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20360 Aug 1 2000 libgnomesupport.a
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Jan 22 18:00 libgnomesupport.so ->
libgnomesupport.so.0.0.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Jan 22 17:58 libgnomesupport.so.0 ->
libgnomesupport.so.0.0.0
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 22739 Aug 1 2000 libgnomesupport.so.0.0.0
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1154216 Aug 1 2000 libgnomeui.a
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 22 18:00 libgnomeui.so ->
libgnomeui.so.32.10.3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 22 17:58 libgnomeui.so.32 ->
libgnomeui.so.32.10.3
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 945254 Aug 1 2000
libgnomeui.so.32.10.3
valinux:jdbeyer[/usr/lib]$
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 56982 Jul 21 1999 /usr/lib/libgnorba.so.27.1.5
valinux:jdbeyer[/usr/lib]$ ls -l libgnorba*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 59196 Aug 1 2000 libgnorba.a
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Jan 22 18:00 libgnorba.so ->
libgnorba.so.27.1.8
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Jan 22 17:58 libgnorba.so.27 ->
libgnorba.so.27.1.8
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 72761 Aug 1 2000 libgnorba.so.27.1.8
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 34428 Aug 1 2000 libgnorbagtk.a
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 22 18:00 libgnorbagtk.so ->
libgnorbagtk.so.0.0.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 22 17:58 libgnorbagtk.so.0 ->
libgnorbagtk.so.0.0.0
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 46833 Aug 1 2000 libgnorbagtk.so.0.0.0
valinux:jdbeyer[/usr/lib]$
> > What I run is a an Enlightenment theme called VAmetal (provided by
> > VA Linux Systems), but it looks quite a bit like the stuff on my
> > straight Red Hat 6.0 system. For the drawing of the stuff inside a
>
> enlightenment looks great, but has fatal flaws that are deadly to
> newbies. I know, because I had it installed as default window manager
> in the labs for a few weeks until howls of protests from the people
> taking labsessions forced me to switch the default back to kde, which
> novices can manage without too much problem. Actually, the requests
> were for fvwm95-2 to be made default, but I refused!
>
> As I said, I have enlightenment on my own machine. At the size screen I
> have and the fonts I have set, I never had basic problems with it, but
> on screens 1024x764 it was a disaster.
I wonder what the essential differences are between my old system
(running RHL 6.0, with lots of RPMs applied, but it worked before I
applied any) with a 1024x168 monitor, and those of your students. My
only complaint (machine has 64Meg RAM, 5400rpm IDE hard drives, P166
cpu) is that it is too slow, though I did not realize that until I
got this much faster machine.
>
> > that I choose not to use.) At the top right of each window are three
> > circles (instead of Microsoft squares) One with _, one with a
> > rectangle, and one with an X. The _ iconifies the window. The
> > rectangle one does different things depending on which mouse button
> > you use, but the left one either expands the window to occupy the
> > entire screen, or puts it back to normal. The x one will close the
> > window if you left-click it, and if you right click it, it will kill
> > the process with a -9 (or something like that). Grabbing a side of a
> > window with the left mouse button allows changing the width, the
>
> I believe I tried grabbing. I am honestly not sure which manager
> is running in the defauolt gnome sessions on these machines. It's
> not afterstep and it's not kde and it's not fvwm*. Where does gdm get
> it's startup menu from? I can't see a gdmrc. xinitrc is uninformative.
>
> Ahhh .. they run prefdm. And no manual entry. prefdm runs gdmgreeter.
> No manual entry either. Grrr.
True, but there is a menu editor (on the menu) and a normal user can
add stuff to his own menu. The superuser can diddle all of them, I
believe. The only thing I did to the overall menu was to add nethack
to the games submenu. My favorite computer game, but years (decades
now) behind in graphics. You could play it on an ADM-3 dumb terminal
if you wanted to.
>
> > bottom or top allows changing the height, and a corner allows both
> > at once. IIRC, these features did not work when I was running fvwm
> > or lesstif (I forget which, or maybe they go together; I forget.
> > That was with Red Hat Linux 5.0, where the things in the top right
> > were there but did not work.)
>
> > Also, if you right click on the top bar of a window, you get a menu
> > with lots of options.
>
> It's that menu's "resize" option that gives me the new cursor shape,
> that however doesn't affect the window when I move to the side or
> corner with it.
Let me see...
If you middle-click the top bar, it rolls up the window like a
window-shate. Doing it again unrolls it again. Sort of like
iconifying the window, but not quite. I do not like that feature and
use it only by accident.
If I right-click there, I get a drop-down menu, one entry of which
is "Window Size". Is that the "resize" to which you refer? If so,
you get yet another drop-down menu with "Height", "Width", and
"Size". They are all similar.
If I select "Height", for example, I get Yet Another Drop Down Menu
(I could rant about too deep a menu level problem for all menuing
systems, but another time) that says Max Height Toggle
Available Max Height Toggle
and Absolute Max Height Toggle (I never tried this one)
Max Height Toggle makes the window take up the entire screen height.
Available Max Height Toggle makes the window take up all the
available hight of the screen, but not overlaying any of the windows
there. Hitting either of these again will make the window revert to
its former size. Hitting the square box at the top makes it do that,
too.
Similarly for the Width and Size options. There are a few slight
bugs there and they do not always work as expected, but this is
rare.
Frankly, I find just grabbing an edge or corner and putting it
where I want it to be easier.
>
> >> Whaaaaat?
> >>
> >> What else can I do except move or click? Drag? It seems to revert at first
> >> click.
>
> > You can drag if you left-click the top bar of a window and slide the
> > thing around, then release the left mouse button.
>
> I meant, maybe I'm supposed to "resize" then drag a corner or side.
> But no, the cursor reverts to normal on pressing the button. Any
> button.
>
> > If you do not get this kind of stuff, I would be glad to e-mail you
> > the rpms you ask for, but at 56.6k or less, you would probably be
> > better off getting the stuff from Red Hat or VA Linux.
>
> It's not my system(s). I deal with them by choosing "afterstep" from
> the entry menu.
>
> > http://www.redhat.com/apps/download/
> >
>http://www.valinux.com/software/vaload/6.2/?session_hash=6fedd0c8ff766b45d963fbb71a5ec590
>
> > The thing that annoys me most about emacs is that I have never
> > figured out how to do something like this vi command:
>
> > 1,$g/pattern1/s/pattern2/complex thingie, a function of stuff found
> > by pattern2/
>
> > So I do those things in vi (or sed sometimes, when appropriate).
>
> Yes, that's precisely what people call me in for. One can use sed, but
> sed isn't adequate when you have to sequence many such steps.
>
> >> ALL : ALL except 127.
> >>
> >> Nicer.
> >>
> > Perhaps so, if you like the parsimonious approach (as I usually do),
> > but I did not do that with my machines. My policy is that nobody can
> > do anything if I say ALL : ALL in hosts.deny. I never put anything
>
> I was just being careful .. there might have been a dodgy moment
> for the user who edited the hosts.deny to say ALL:ALL ! He needed
> to edit the hosts.allow first.
Maybe. I do not recall what order I used, but when setting mine up,
I believe I did the hosts.deny first and this caused me no problems.
I did them one right after the other, and perhaps I did not need any
networking (even localhost, 127.0.0.1) to make emacs work on these
files.
>
> Peter
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