Linux-Misc Digest #198, Volume #27 Thu, 22 Feb 01 19:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: What took over inetd.conf in RH7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Xwindow (amila)
Mozilla Files ("antonio.montagnani")
Re: Size of LINUX (Rolie Baldock)
Re: Size of LINUX (Grant Edwards)
Re: What took over inetd.conf in RH7 ("Charles E Taylor IV")
Re: using --exclude in rsync (Robert Lynch)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Help: apache access denied...problems (David. E. Goble)
Re: Can' read first line printed with lp (Federico Bravo)
Re: about keyboard mapping ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What took over inetd.conf in RH7
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:18:26 GMT
Doug Poulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am I correct in assuming (never assume!) that inetd.conf has died in
> RH7, and been replaced with scripts under /etc/rc.d/init.d/
> If not, where is the script that I can go in and remove what is running
> and what is not running?
As you'll notice if you take a look in /etc/rc.d/init.d you'll see
an inet file. That launches the services shown in /etc/inetd.conf. Just
edit that file to remove or add the networking services you want.
Adam
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From: amila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Xwindow
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:30:12 -0000
Markku Kolkka wrote:
>
> amila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > but after the cmoputer rebooted it goes to the command prompt
> > so i logged in as root and typed in "startx", it said "screen(s) were
> > found but none were usable" ?????!!!!
>
> This means the monitor defined in the configuration isn't compatible
> with any of the defined resolutions. Did you test your X configuration
> during install?
>
> > i have an ati rage II + dvd (4megs)
> > i chose the the monitor that the install gave me, which was a generic
> > moniter
>
> "generic" means 640x480 VGA, you don't want that. If your monitor
> isn't in the list, choose "custom" and enter the refresh frequencies
> manually (look them up from the monitor manual).
>
> --
> Markku Kolkka
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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first of all thanks to Noah and Markku for their help!!
actually i've tried putting in my own refresh frequencies
and it still doesn't work
it tells me the same thing, that screens were found but non were usable
can i do anything else?
thanx again for spending your time
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: "antonio.montagnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mozilla Files
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:28:06 GMT
After deleting messages in Mail unit of Mozilla 0.8 (inbox folder), if I
read the Inbox file and Inbox.msf files, I find the deleted messages.
Same behaviour in Mozilla 0.7
What am I missing??
Tnx
Antonio Montagnani
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rolie Baldock)
Subject: Re: Size of LINUX
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:52:19 GMT
Hello All You Folks that are trying to help,
Firstly you help is appreciated and I'm not trying to be smart or
rude, despite what you may think. I have seen examples in others where
they have tried to get into a discipline which had advanced to the
point where the dialog had changed, the philosophy had changed and
they were as clueless as I appear to be. So I'm not surprised at the
comments. I have had a setup since 1989 for Electrical Engineering, as
well as programming in QuickBASIC and Assembly. It is stable and
exists on 6 SCSI drives attached to 2 servers. The servers are
connected to 2 or more workstations which run an old version of DOS.
It all works fine with the 2 servers (one at a time) providing access
to the appropriate SCSI disks (which are in caddies and can be plugged
in as required). My web connection is done through a separate machine
altogether. What I am wondering is: Can I run LINUX in the two servers
to which the various SCSI drives are connected, without major DRAMAs.
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 05:19:49 +0100, "Peter T. Breuer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Rolie Baldock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> OK...OK... I have a few spare 127 Mb IDE drives and there are a few
>> more down at the shop and I can find a couple of 16Mb simms to insert
>> in the servers. But is is so difficult to get LINUX to work as a file
>> server ONLY with this hardware set up? Moreover is it worth the
>
>No, as everyone keeps telling you, you need make no changes.
>
>> trouble? I have dedicated DX2-66s (plenty of them) for dedicated jobs
>> so I ONLY need the servers to do that, NOTHING ELSE.
>
>What is the "that" in "do that"? NFS?
>
>Peter
--Rolie Baldock. email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subtract one thousand and nine for direct email
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Size of LINUX
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:10:32 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rolie Baldock wrote:
>drives attached to 2 servers. The servers are connected to 2 or
>more workstations which run an old version of DOS. It all works
>fine with the 2 servers (one at a time) providing access to the
>appropriate SCSI disks (which are in caddies and can be plugged
>in as required). My web connection is done through a separate
>machine altogether. What I am wondering is: Can I run LINUX in
>the two servers to which the various SCSI drives are connected,
>without major DRAMAs.
Probably, but you have to tell us what you want the servers
to _do_. They apparently server files to DOS machines. Linux
does that admirably.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I was born in a
at Hostess Cupcake factory
visi.com before the sexual
revolution!
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From: "Charles E Taylor IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What took over inetd.conf in RH7
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:33:09 +0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Doug Poulin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am I correct in assuming (never assume!) that inetd.conf has died in
> RH7, and been replaced with scripts under /etc/rc.d/init.d/
man xinetd should provide some insight.
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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: using --exclude in rsync
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:39:08 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:28:29 -0800 Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> |>
> |> I thought I had this working, but apparently not. The man page
> |> just doesn't make any sense, and the examples aren't what I am
> |> trying to do.
> |>
> |> What I want to do is exclude a whole tree from data being transferred
> |> by rsync (client is getting data from the server). Can anyone give
> |> a pattern for exclude to block a whole tree? As an example I want
> |> to exclude a tree named "abc/xyz" relative to the directory which is
> |> the target.
> |>
> |> --
> |> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> |> | Phil Howard - KA9WGN | Dallas | http://linuxhomepage.com/ |
> |> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Texas, USA | http://phil.ipal.org/ |
> |> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> |
> | I've been using this to backup a server over ssh (executed in /
> | directory):
> |
> | rsync -ravze ssh --exclude='lost+found' --delete --delete-after\
> | /bin /boot /dev /etc /home /lib \
> | /opt /root /sbin /spare /usr /var\
> | ives:/fw_bak
>
> Are there any files in "lost+found"? Apparently what it does is
> exclude the directory, but not the files found below it. If the
> directory already exists at the target, the files below it still
> get transferred.
>
> Put a file in "lost+found". Now make "lost+found" in the target
> location. Run the rsync backup. See if the file in "lost+found"
> gets transferred.
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> | Phil Howard - KA9WGN | Dallas | http://linuxhomepage.com/ |
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Texas, USA | http://phil.ipal.org/ |
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
This is the filesystem to be backed up:
[root@cage /]# pwd
/
[root@cage /]# ls
bin dev home lost+found opt root spare usr
boot etc lib mnt proc sbin tmp var
[root@cage /]# ls lost+found
A_FILE
This is the backed-up filesystem:
[root@ives /fw_bak]# pwd
/fw_bak
[root@ives /fw_bak]# ls
bin boot dev etc home lib lost+found opt root sbin
spare usr var
[root@ives /fw_bak]# ls -l lost+found
total 0
It seems to "honor" the --exclude='lost+found'. This is the
version of rsync I am using:
# rpm -qv rsync
rsync-2.4.6-2
HTH. Bob L.
--
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA USA: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== NOTE:
**New address! Please CHANGE your addressbook listing.***
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:42:10 -0500
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:14:47 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
> >Really?
> >
> >1. So, what you're saying, is that, after you die, you intend to pass
> >on absolutely NOTHING of value to your children and/or grandchildren?
>
> I doubt I'm likely to have anything over the threshold for the inheritance
> tax in the US.
I see. So, basically, you have some arbitrary figure in mind as to how
much is "too much".
Care to name it?
Or are you an "I don't care about injustice as long as it doesn't
effect me" hypocrite.
> But suppose I was taxed at 100%. That would not stop me
> working while I was alive, no. I'm not saying they should tax at that
> rate though.
You would willingly get up and go to work each day under a
100% income tax law?
You're a fool.
Exactly how do you expect to feed yourself and keep yourself
clothed if you are spending 8 hours/day working for ZILCH.
You have just demonstrated that you have not the slightest
concept of how personal finances work in the real world.
>
> >2. Death Taxes are the LEADING cause of failure for businesses
> >that last more than 10 years....not to mention an INCREDIBLE burden
> >upon farming families.
>
> Must be very well-to-do "farming families". What's the threshold again ?
> IIRC you don't pay a cent unless you're a millionaire.
Productive farmland is VERY valuable.
>
> "Leading cause of failure for businesses that last more than 10
> years" ... ? Sounds like an awfully contrived statistic. I'm not
No...it keeps the statistic confined to those companies that are
actually successful (i.e. MOST business start-up fail within 7
years because the owners don't quite know what they are doing...
If confind your study to those businesses which have lasted for
10 years or more, then you are confining your study to businesses
which have proven themselves to be viable)
> clear as to how you isolate the tax as a variable BTW (In particular,
> how do you know that the business didn't fail because the heirs ran
> it into the ground?)
>
> >Fuck that all your socialist, bureacrats-can-do-no-wrong bullshit.
> >
> >We give enough money to the public education system in this
> >country to properly educate 5x the current number of students.
>
> Sure, you could probably cut costs by 80% or so by reducing
> teachers salaries to say about $5000-.
Getting rid of the do-nothing bureacracy of administrators in
most school districts (especially large schoold districts) would
be MUCH more effective.
How many teachers are riding around in chauffer-driven limosines?
>
> >> have something which is of greater resemblence to a meritocracy. The
> >> rich kids have an advantage, but not an exclusive lock.
> >
> >Welcome to fucking reality. Now, try dealing with it, rather than
> >pretending that it magic-fairy-dust is all that's needed to cure it.
>
> I never did claim that "magic fairy dust" will cure anything. The fact
> that it's not easy to "cure" does not mean that we should not try.
Stealing from those who are productive and successful
only exacerbates the problem.
>
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
> elflord at panix dot com
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: goble@gtech (David. E. Goble)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Help: apache access denied...problems
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:45:57 GMT
Reply-To: goble@gtech
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:28:05 GMT, goble@gtech (David. E. Goble) wrote:
>
>Hi all;
>
>I need help. Iam running redhat 6.2. For some reason my www server
>(apache) will not let me have access rights.
>
>Oh and I have just installed netatalk-1_4b2+asun2_1_4-0_i386.rpm.
>
Hi All;
I had checked all the file permissions... etc... and just could not
figure out what was wrong :<
So what I did was rename httpd.conf to httpd.bak and
then run rpm -Uvh --force apache*.rpm. I then edited the new
httpd.conf gradually, restarting httpd each time, to check that it
kept working.
So now I got it working again, I still do not know what went wrong. I
did not bother to try to compare the two files ( sic did not know how
:>)
Thanks for the many replies... :>
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From: Federico Bravo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can' read first line printed with lp
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:46:35 GMT
Thanks. What I actually did is set the top margin to 36 in the printtool
filter menu of GNOME. It works....
Federico.
David Efflandt wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:11:41 GMT, Federico Bravo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi. When I print a text file with lp the first line of every page is
> >unreadable ( i.e. printed only the lower half). I have a HP LaserJet 4L
> >and use HP LaserJet filters for printing. RedHat 7.0. Does anyone have a
> >
> >quick fix for this?
> >Thanks.
> >Federico.
>
> That is a problem for text files because most laser printers cannot print
> all the way to the edge of the page (I also have HP4L). See if 'man pr'
> shows you anything, or install it. I use the following for printing from
> pine, but cannot figure out how to avoid having it spit out an extra page
> (-T sucks up form feeds, but also the desired header space):
>
> pr -F -h "" -l 60 -o 3 | lpr
>
> --
> David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
> http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
> http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: about keyboard mapping
Date: 22 Feb 2001 15:44:25 -0800
I've remapped the Windows keys on my keyboard in the same way with no trouble.
I'm sure there's a more permanent, or elegant, way to do it, but I just put the
following in my .xinitrc:
xmodmap -e 'keycode 115 = Kanji' &
xmodmap -e 'keycode 116 = Kanji' &
I rather wonder why it's 125 on your keyboard...you might check again by running xev
and seeing what code it gives you for the windows key.
--
Matthew Boyce
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:00:03 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On 22 Feb 2001 02:09:12 GMT, Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:47:46 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >>>On the contrary, creating a society that hands out rewards on the basis
> >>>of inheritance and not merit is a great way to create an aristocracy.
> >>
> >> That still doesn't eliminate the fact that you are still
> >> fucking with people's motivations to be productive.
> >> Stealing from productive people to too great a degree
> >> ends up being counterproductive.
> >
> >The fact that they won't have as much money after they die is unlikely
> >to kill their motivation to work hard.
>
> You seem to be a biological form yet have no grasp of the
> biological motivation to benefits one's offspring. The
> laborer does not infact completely vanish once death takes
> them. The motivation for their labors still lives on.
>
> Thoreau decided to take jail time rather than have a government
> misuse his money. It's not unreasonable to expect the living to
> have similar notions regarding what governments might do to
> looted wealth after death.
When I was Donovan's age, I thought Thoreau was a kook.
Years later, I realized that the man was very wise.
>
> >
> >I agree with the basic thrust of this statement though -- it's important
> >that there's an incentive to be productive.
> >
> >> Plus, this occurs even in the presence of inheritance taxes.
> >> The children of the wealthy still derive benefits from merely
> >> being born to the right parents.
> >
> >Of course. So what ? I don't think it's possible or desirable to
> >completely level the playing field -- the measures required to
> >do so would be draconian.
> >
> >> You don't stop the formation
> >> of aristocracy with death taxes.
> >
> >If you use the money to fund a decent public education system, you
> >have something which is of greater resemblence to a meritocracy. The
> >rich kids have an advantage, but not an exclusive lock.
>
> ...as if this actually happens.
>
> What PLANET did you grow up on?
>
> --
>
> Ease of use should be associated with things like "human engineering"
> and "use the right tool for the right job". And of course,
> "reliability", since stopping to fix a problem or starting over due
> to lost work are the very antithesis of "ease of use".
>
> Bobby Bryant - COLA
> |||
> / | \
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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