Linux-Misc Digest #208, Volume #27               Fri, 23 Feb 01 23:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Web page publishing (Brian Goodyear)
  MS Windows XP vs Linux ("Arctic Storm")
  Re: Vi Editor that shows comments in different colors (Dances With Crows)
  Problem with ptinting over a network. (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
  Re: MS Windows XP vs Linux (Brent Pathakis)
  Re: Help--Program exists, but can't execute (Chris Carlen)
  Where's the physical address of any kernel source code? (gu weining)
  Re: Where's the physical address of any kernel source code? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Need help installing DigiBoard!!! ("Paul M. Hanson")
  Re: FTP scripting... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: /bin/sh (Francis Litterio)
  Re: FTP scripting... (Grant Edwards)
  Re: FTP scripting... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Substitute for Microsoft Outlook? (Grant Edwards)
  Re: surviving in a Windows only environment? (Grant Edwards)
  Re: surviving in a Windows only environment? (Grant Edwards)
  Re: surviving in a Windows only environment? (Grant Edwards)
  Re: MS Windows XP vs Linux (Grant Edwards)
  Re: Web page publishing (Grant Edwards)
  Re: AOL + Linux (Mark Bratcher)
  Re: MS Windows XP vs Linux (Mark Bratcher)
  Re: Netware for linux, where to download client ? (Bob Hauck)
  configuration options - modem ("doug edmunds")
  Re: No volume control in CD (David Efflandt)

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From: Brian Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Web page publishing
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:21:26 -0500

What are you people using to create and maintain your web pages.  I've 
searched and so far found nothing which is powerful and easy.

-- 
Thanks,

Brian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: "Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MS Windows XP vs Linux
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:18:38 GMT

MS Windows XP vs Linux
Microsoft's new Windows XP is touted as the easiest Windows ever, and is
expected to unify Windows OS's.  MS developed XP by getting feedbacks from
average users and computer neophytes, to become easy/intuitive enough for
your Grandmother to use.
Linux/GNU caters to people who have a reasonable background in computers, if
not experts.  This is why Linux/GNU is not as prevalent as MS Windows.
Listening to feedbacks from computer experts for improvements is important,
but expending efforts into designing a system that can be easily used by
"non-computer" public is just as important.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Vi Editor that shows comments in different colors
Date: 24 Feb 2001 01:55:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:05:50 +0100, Alfred Schetelig staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>I am looking for a vi clone that can show comments in c-programs in a
>different color.
>
>Anybody out there that ever heard of one? Thanks.

cat << EOF >> ~/.vimrc
set nocompatible
let color= "true"
if has("syntax")
   if color=="true"
       so ${VIMRUNTIME}/syntax/syntax.vim
   else
       syntax off
       set t_Co=0
   endif
endif
set backspace=2  "very useful IMHO
EOF

For reasons which are opaque to me, RedHat ships their vim without the
color and ruler options enabled.  (Idiots.)  If you're using RedHat,
grab the source RPM and recompile with all the good stuff turned on.
vim has syntax highlighting rules for more formats than you can shake a
stick at, including C, C++, Perl, PHP, Java, SQL, bash, .BAT files,
PostScript, HTML, XML, lots of .rc files, et cetera.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Problem with ptinting over a network.
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:09:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Three computers connected on a network.
1 has two printers attached is running Mandrake 7.2 with
a 4.2.1 kernel and no problem (now) printing.
2 runs NT connects to 1's printers via samba, no problem printing,
3 is running Mandrake 7.2 with a 4.2.0 kernel.
No matter what URI I specify for that computer. I can't get it to
connect to the printer. This is using the web interface for cups.
Any ideas why?
(Probable answer wrong URI, but I can't figure out the right URI,
printer1 queue is label lp, printer2 queue is labeled hp {guess what
brand it is}).
PS: I did manage to get it working when I had the 2.2.18 kernel.
TIA

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From: Brent Pathakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Windows XP vs Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:16:41 GMT

Arctic Storm wrote:

> MS Windows XP vs Linux
> Microsoft's new Windows XP is touted as the easiest Windows ever, and is
> expected to unify Windows OS's.  MS developed XP by getting feedbacks from
> average users and computer neophytes, to become easy/intuitive enough for
> your Grandmother to use.
> Linux/GNU caters to people who have a reasonable background in computers,
> if
> not experts.  This is why Linux/GNU is not as prevalent as MS Windows.
> Listening to feedbacks from computer experts for improvements is
> important, but expending efforts into designing a system that can be
> easily used by "non-computer" public is just as important.
> 
> 
1. GNU/ Linux is focusing on ease of use...while it's not up to par with 
Win os's, it is progressing rapidly...imo faster the anything from MS. 

2. What you give up with with WinXP /9x/NT or whatever flavor your running 
is freedom.  When you have to call MS to activate your os or rent your apps 
from them, all the ease of use in the world isn't worth it.

Linux will acheive ease of use that users wants...and MS will stil be 
screwing it's customers.


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From: Chris Carlen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help--Program exists, but can't execute
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:15:23 -0800

Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG ** wrote:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Carlen:
> > bash: /usr/local/bin/eagle: No such file or directory

> My shot in the dark: This is the exact error I get when I take executables
> compiled under some kernel/libcwhatever combo, and try to run them on some
> other kernel/libcyetanother based distribution. For example, I like having
> the console version of the 3270 SNA terminal emulator (tn3270) rather than
> the X version (x3270) to use on slow dialup links. I found a version which
> ran fine on an older Linux install at work, but had this same error when I
> tried to run it on a much more recent distribution.
> 
> What I had to do was to recompile from source on the newer distribution.
> 
> I don't know if you can (or want to) do that...


Thanks for your take on it.  I have run Eagle on an old Slackware libc5
system and Suse 6.2 glibc system.  There was no trouble.  Unfortunately,
since it is commercial software, I can't recompile it.  But the company
is very good at responding to problems, even though I don't think this
is their fault.  Hopefully they will have an idea, of someone here.

I will also try to email Suse's feedback.

Any other takes anyone?

-- 
PLEASE REPLY TO THE NEWSGROUP OR REMOVE BOGUS FIELD FROM EMAIL
ADDRESS!!!
Christopher R. Carlen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: gu weining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where's the physical address of any kernel source code?
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:20:48 -0600


Where is the physical address of any kernel source code?

I need to access the physical address of kernel through driver,
but I don't know enough about it. I only knew these:

1. In the /proc/ksyms file, there are some relationship about
   functions and address. How to put any one of function inside
   kernel source code to ksyms? What's the address here? Physical?

2. I perhaps know, I should write loadable driver to access the
   physical address, then insmod ..., then through ioctl to get
   the data from kernel. Is it a correct and easy way to do this?
   Any suggestion is appreciated.

Thank you so much.
Have a great weekend!

Weining Gu
University of Illinois
at Urbana-Champaign




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Where's the physical address of any kernel source code?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:35:45 GMT

gu weining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Where is the physical address of any kernel source code?

There is none.  The kernel source code sits in files on your hard
drive.  MAYBE.  That assumes that you've got kernel source code on
your system, which is not a necessary precondition for running Linux.

The most likely place to look for the kernel source code is
/usr/src/linux, which is where it is often installed, by default.
-- 
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http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/wp.html
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(SETQ X (PROG2 0 Y (SETQ Y X))) 

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From: "Paul M. Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,linux.dev.serial,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Need help installing DigiBoard!!!
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:35:22 GMT

  Hello I have a Digiboard 16em that I am trying to install on Red Hat Linux
7.0 - the host board is EISA.
  I downloaded the .rpm for this board from
http://support.digi.com/support/legacy/digi/drivers/4001450K.rpm which they
say is the last driver to support EISA.  The package name of this driver is
'epca-1.4.3.3-1'.  It also says that it is for upto kernel 2.2.14 and Red
Hat 6.1, but I think that it is because it was what was current when it was
created.  I have the 2.2.16 kernel on Red Hat 7.0, so it *should* work
right?
  Well, after creating a 'src' group and then running 'rpm -i 4001450K.rpm'
it puts all of the source files where they need to go and starts the
configuration script.  Everything seems fine there except that it asks for
an I/O address to use (1005,2005,3005,4005,6005,7005).  But there is nothing
about setting an I/O address for this board when the board was added to the
system via the system EISA configuration.
  So, I tried using all values, but I get an error when it tries to load to
the board.  And when I try I/O addresses 3005 and 7005, the configuration
script hangs when it tries to load to the board.

  Has anyone been able to get the DigiBoard 16em EISA board to work with Red
Hat?  I appreciate any help or suggestions at all.

Thanks in advance,
  Scott Navarre
  Precision Analytical Labs



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FTP scripting...
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Date: 22 Feb 2001 12:39:15 -0600

>>>>> "René" == René Scheibe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    René> ....can someone tell me if the normal ftp-client is
    René> scriptable???  How can I write a script for it.  Can you
    René> give me an example???  I want to login to a server and put a
    René> file on it.

You might try something like the following:

#!/bin/ksh
ftp -n 172.28.211.99 << EOD
        user cbbrowne MySecretPassword
        cd /tmp
        binary
        put somefile.txt
        bye
EOD

If you set up ID/password in .netrc (somewhat deprecated!), then
the password may become optional...
-- 
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http://vip.hex.net/~cbbrowne/internet.html
REALITY is a mescaline deficiency.

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From: Francis Litterio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /bin/sh
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:42:24 GMT

"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Bash when called as sh behaves as sh.

I've heard that too, but then this behavior is confusing (blank lines
inserted before prompts for clarity):

        $ ls -l /bin/sh
        lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root        4 Oct 21  1999 /bin/sh -> bash

        $ cat > zzz
        #!/bin/sh
        echo ~
        echo $PPID
        echo $(date)
        VAR=99
        let "VAR = VAR + 1"
        echo $VAR
        ((VAR = VAR + 1))
        echo $VAR
        ^D

        $ chmod 755 zzz

        $ ./zzz
        /home/franl
        844
        Fri Feb 23 21:34:55 EST 2001
        100
        ./zzz: VAR: command not found
        100

        $ bash zzz
        /home/franl
        844
        Fri Feb 23 21:36:44 EST 2001
        100
        101

So when bash is invoked as sh, it allows tilde expansion, $(...) command
substitution, bash-specific variables such as PPID, the let "..."
syntax, but not the ((...)) syntax (which it seems to read as
doubly-nested subshells).

That's some Bourne-shell compatibility mode!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: FTP scripting...
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:50:15 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>> "René" == René Scheibe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>    René> ....can someone tell me if the normal ftp-client is
>    René> scriptable???  How can I write a script for it.  Can you
>    René> give me an example???  I want to login to a server and put a
>    René> file on it.
>
>You might try something like the following:
>
>#!/bin/ksh
>ftp -n 172.28.211.99 << EOD
>        user cbbrowne MySecretPassword
>        cd /tmp
>        binary
>        put somefile.txt
>        bye
>EOD

You're probably better off using ncftpget/ncftpput for doing
stuff in a script.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  I have many CHARTS
                                  at               and DIAGRAMS...
                               visi.com            

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FTP scripting...
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:59:53 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>>>> "René" == René Scheibe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >    René> ....can someone tell me if the normal ftp-client is
> >    René> scriptable???  How can I write a script for it.  Can you
> >    René> give me an example???  I want to login to a server and put a
> >    René> file on it.
> >
> >You might try something like the following:
> >
> >#!/bin/ksh
> >ftp -n 172.28.211.99 << EOD
> >        user cbbrowne MySecretPassword
> >        cd /tmp
> >        binary
> >        put somefile.txt
> >        bye
> >EOD
> 
> You're probably better off using ncftpget/ncftpput for doing
> stuff in a script.

Perhaps it might be nicer that way.

But the approach I outline works even on a system so "plain vanilla"
that it has no such tools.  

(And folks at work use scripts much like the one above to do file
transfers on MVS by embedding the script into a chunk of JCL.  Feel
free to retch as needed...)
-- 
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http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/sap.html
"Unfortunately, because the wicked sorcerers of Silikonn' Vahlli hated
freedom, they devised  clever signs and wonders to  achieve the mighty
Captive User Interface, also known as the Prison for Idiot Minds."
-- Michael Peck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Substitute for Microsoft Outlook?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:13:07 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Georg Schwarz wrote:

>Is there any Linux mail client that can work with Microsoft Exchange
>mail servers?

Depends.  

Most will work if POP/IMAP/SMTP is enabled on Exchange server.
Use IMAP rather than POP if given a choice. If they aren't
enabled, then you're pretty much screwed. Bynari.com has a sort
of a solution where you run have the a server-app on a Windows
machine and a client-app under Linux.

Nobody has a MAPI client under anything but MS-Windows, and
nobody ever will.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  I am having FUN... I
                                  at               wonder if it's NET FUN or
                               visi.com            GROSS FUN?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: surviving in a Windows only environment?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:19:21 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Georg Schwarz wrote:

>Is there a way to survive (with Linux) in a Windows only
>environment?

Yes, but it takes some patience.

>More precisely, the company is using W2K and Office 2K. There's
>heavy usage of Word and PowerPoint attachments as well as
>Outlook's calendar function. The only mail server is MS
>Exchange and does not speak POP3 or IMAP (AFAIK). File access
>is provided by Netbui over TCP/IP. There's no NTP server to
>synchronize clocks (just some proprietary Windows method).
>
>Could Sun's StarOffice be of help here? Any other ideas?

WP8 does a decent job of opening documenents as does StarOffice
(SO is a huge memory hog).  You might take a look at Applix
Office, it does a decent job also.  There's a program called
Ted that does a good job with RTF files.

For mail, you can run a Python app on a windows box to fetch
mail and shove it into an SMTP sever:

  ftp://ftp.visi.com/users/grante/python/mfetch.py
  
It should be farily straight-forward to impliment the other
direction (SMTP -> Exchange) but our Exchange server has SMTP
so I've never bothered.  IMAP is way easier to deal with, so
maybe if you ask nicely....

Exporting and mounting files with Linux works well:

               http://www.samba.org/

RH6.2's "printtool" program sets up printer queues so you can
use printers on Windows machines (most laser printers that are
on the network listen on the  BSD lpd port, so you can probably
print directly to them.

There are also a couple virtual-machine products that let you
run Windows under Linux (vmware and win4lin).

Good luck -- hang in there.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Join the PLUMBER'S
                                  at               UNION!!
                               visi.com            

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: surviving in a Windows only environment?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:22:26 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Juergen Heinzl wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Georg Schwarz wrote:
>>Is there a way to survive (with Linux) in a Windows only environment?
>>More precisely, the company is using W2K and Office 2K. There's heavy
>>usage of Word and PowerPoint attachments as well as Outlook's calendar
>>function. The only mail server is MS Exchange and does not speak POP3 or
>>IMAP (AFAIK). File access is provided by Netbui over TCP/IP. There's no
>>NTP server to synchronize clocks (just some proprietary Windows method).
>>
>>Could Sun's StarOffice be of help here? Any other ideas?
>[-]

>Yes .. it's an OS, not a religious issue, so behave like a
>professional and use what the company supplies or change jobs.

Wouldn't want any sort of initiative or individuality in the
Employees. That would certainly be bad for the company.

He may have valid technical reasons to want to run Linux.
OTOH, if he's just more comfortable and productive running
Linux, why not let him run Linux?

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Yow! Now we can
                                  at               become alcoholics!
                               visi.com            

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: surviving in a Windows only environment?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:24:53 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Georg Schwarz wrote:
>Is there a way to survive (with Linux) in a Windows only environment?
>More precisely, the company is using W2K and Office 2K. There's heavy
>usage of Word and PowerPoint attachments as well as Outlook's calendar
>function. The only mail server is MS Exchange and does not speak POP3 or
>IMAP (AFAIK). File access is provided by Netbui over TCP/IP. There's no
>NTP server to synchronize clocks (just some proprietary Windows method).
>
>Could Sun's StarOffice be of help here? Any other ideas?

Oh, one other thing. If you're creating documents for others to
read (they don't want to edit them): using standard postscript
fonts in LaTeX and converting the postscript output to PDF will
create documents that your readers will be quite comfortable
reading.  There's also a version of TeX that generates PDF
directly, but I've not tried it.

If people want to edit files, useing Ted to generate RTF works
pretty well. 

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  I'll eat ANYTHING
                                  at               that's BRIGHT BLUE!!
                               visi.com            

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: MS Windows XP vs Linux
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:26:58 GMT

In article <OZDl6.273$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Arctic Storm wrote:

>Microsoft's new Windows XP is touted as the easiest Windows ever, and is
>expected to unify Windows OS's.

Sure.  How many times have they claimed that in the past?

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  This PORCUPINE knows
                                  at               his ZIPCODE... And he has
                               visi.com            "VISA"!!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Web page publishing
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:27:55 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian Goodyear wrote:

>What are you people using to create and maintain your web pages.  I've 
>searched and so far found nothing which is powerful and easy.

A text editor with an HTML mode (emacs/jed/vim/nedit) and a
brain.  ;)

Oh, and a good HTML checker.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Am I in GRADUATE
                                  at               SCHOOL yet?
                               visi.com            

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Subject: Re: AOL + Linux
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:25:33 GMT

In article <EEfl6.129$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matt O'Toole wrote:
>
>"Jeff Susanj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> AOL is Linux hostile.  They only make AOL for Windows 9xx and Macintosh.
>> Even Windows NT is left out.  I have to use an older version of AOL for
>> windows 3.1 on NT.  It may be possible to run AOL using Wine but I haven't
>> tried it myself.
>
>I don't think they're hostile.  They probably just don't see a big enough
>subscriber base to justify developing and supporting AOL for Linux.  BTW,
>there was a development version of AOL for Linux floating around, but the
>program got cancelled.  I'm not suprised they don't support NT, either.  It
>was never a mainstream OS in the sense that Win 95/98 and Mac are, at least
>among the AOL demographic.
[snip]

I think I would agree that they're not hostile. They have their own
version of AOL instant messenger for Linux which is clunky but works.

Hostile, no. Mediocre programmers... eh... let their apps tell it. :-)

-- 
Mark Bratcher
To reply direct, remove both underscores (_) from my email name
===============================================================
Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Subject: Re: MS Windows XP vs Linux
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:35:45 GMT

In article <OZDl6.273$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Arctic Storm wrote:
>MS Windows XP vs Linux
>Microsoft's new Windows XP is touted as the easiest Windows ever, and is
>expected to unify Windows OS's.  MS developed XP by getting feedbacks from
>average users and computer neophytes, to become easy/intuitive enough for
>your Grandmother to use.

MicroSoft says this about _every_ release of Windows. What do you think
so far? The only thing I see is for $90 you get more bloat without any of
the old bugs fixed. And an increase in "innovation" which usually translates
into the incorporation of another embedded technology to make Windows
compatible only with itself (and it's not even good at that).

An aside: my favorite interpretation as to what "XP" means is that it is
an emoticon.

>Linux/GNU caters to people who have a reasonable background in computers, if
>not experts.  This is why Linux/GNU is not as prevalent as MS Windows.

Certainly true, but Linux is gaining in the server market and MicroSoft is
nervous about it. That's why they publicly claim they aren't worried, but
at the same time they want to lobby lawmakers to make open source products
basically illegal.

>Listening to feedbacks from computer experts for improvements is important,
>but expending efforts into designing a system that can be easily used by
>"non-computer" public is just as important.

I wouldn't say that Linux developments are ignorant of the "common man"
audience. I use RedHat, for example, and have only been using it since
version 5.2.  The difference in ease of installation between 6.2 (which I
run now) and 5.2 is huge.  I've done many Windows and Linux installs and
I can now say that I find Linux installs go a lot smoother and easier.
Fewer choices, fewer button clicks, and fewer problems.

-- 
Mark Bratcher
To reply direct, remove both underscores (_) from my email name
===============================================================
Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Netware for linux, where to download client ?
Reply-To: bobh = haucks dot org
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:43:41 GMT

On 23 Feb 2001 04:07:30 GMT, Wong Sai-kee
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I installed the Netware for linux together with the Caldera OpenLinux
> Lite 1.2 .

That is a Really Ancient distribution.  It came out in about 1995 I
think.  Hell, I don't remember exactly, and I was a beta tester for the
Netware client!


> Second is, according to the documentation, if I need to add user, I
> need the NETADMIN running on DOS 3.3 or Netware Adminstrator.

The newer Caldera distros include the admin tools.


> I tried the www.caldera.com site, which only has the same content as
> the CD for download.

Try <ftp://www.calderasystems.com/pub/eDesktop/> for a much more up to
date distribution.  But you may have to buy it to get the Netware stuff.

There's also a free Netware client for Linux, but I haven't kept up on
it's status.

-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
 -| To Whom You Are Speaking
 -| http://www.haucks.org/

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Reply-To: "doug edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "doug edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: configuration options - modem
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:59:23 -0800

I an connecting 2 boxes, A and B:
Each is setup as dual-boot win98/linux.
Each has its own 56k modem (not winmodems)
which currently work either in win98 or in linux.
I am going to connect A and B  with a
crossover cable, with Dlink 10/100 nics.

At any given time, either or both may be running=20
win98 or linux.    I would like to just use box A
to tap into the phone line.  Box B would use the
modem in box A. These are the possibilities:

A linux - B linux
A linux  -B win98
A win98 - B linux
A win98  - B win98.

I want to a setup that will allow all of these 4 options.
What are my options for setting up the modems? =20
Thanks.

-- doug edmunds
23 feb 2001





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: No volume control in CD
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:09:15 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>CD works fine but unable to increase volume  with audio CD's.
>
>Any idea?

Check your mixer settings.  It is possible that your CD program volume
control is maxxed out, but the mixer has a reduced setting for CD or
general volume.

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