Linux-Misc Digest #247, Volume #27 Tue, 27 Feb 01 18:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Problem of iptables -- Can't load modules (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Your Favourite X or Gnome Software? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Looking for free Terminal Emulator (Paul Sherwin)
Re: Winmodem question (Yu Loong Liew)
Sleep/Standby on ABIT VP6? ("OpenMined")
Re: xephem make file ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Your Favourite X or Gnome Software? ("Robert Wiegand")
Re: X Server questions (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: red-carpet for redhat (John Hasler)
Re: Pentium 4 support? (John Hasler)
Re: Your Favourite X or Gnome Software? (Jean-David Beyer)
LILO + Mylex 170 ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: Pentium 4 support? ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Edward Rosten")
Re: RedHat-6.2+ kernel-2.4.0+PPP problem.. (Rich Piotrowski)
Help with (re)installation (Linmaniac)
Re: HELP!!! Installed glibc 2.2.2 (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Problem of iptables -- Can't load modules
Date: 27 Feb 2001 14:57:22 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Carfield Yim wrote:
> I compile my kernel with iptables as modules, but when I type "modprobe
> iptables", it reply: "modprobe: Can't locate module iptables", what
> wrong with me?
You are trying to load a module that doesn't exist.
$ ls /lib/modules/2.4.2/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter
ip_conntrack.o ipt_MARK.o ipt_limit.o ipt_tos.o
ip_conntrack_ftp.o ipt_MASQUERADE.o ipt_mac.o ipt_unclean.o
ip_nat_ftp.o ipt_REDIRECT.o ipt_mark.o iptable_filter.o
ip_tables.o ipt_REJECT.o ipt_multiport.o iptable_mangle.o
ipt_LOG.o ipt_TOS.o ipt_state.o iptable_nat.o
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Paul Kimoto
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Your Favourite X or Gnome Software?
Date: 27 Feb 2001 14:59:53 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <wDRm6.225414$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Scot Mc Pherson wrote:
> What is your favourite software to use for [...] usenet
This _is_ Usenet. Look at messages for headers like "User-Agent",
"X-Newsreader", and (for those unfortunate enough to use mail
programs for news) "X-Mailer".
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Paul Kimoto
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Sherwin)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Looking for free Terminal Emulator
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:23:22 GMT
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:46:51 GMT, "Paul M. Hanson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can anyone please tell me of a free terminal emulator which runs on
>Windows 9X and allows login to a Linux machine? It would be a bonus if the
>terminal emulator could also properly handle color (like at the linux
>console).
> Thank you in advance for your suggestions and recommendations.
>
As others have said, putty is very good - however the telnet.exe
client that ships with W98 is improved over the W95 version and may be
all you need. Even the W95 telnet is OK for very basic jobs.
HTH, Paul
Paul Sherwin Consulting 22 Monmouth Road, Oxford OX1 4TD, UK
Phone +44 (0)1865 721438 http://www.psherwin.strayduck.com
Mobile +44 (0)7931 578334 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Yu Loong Liew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Winmodem question
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:19:22 -0600
Thanks, I'll check on that. I think my PPP is working, maybe just lack of
DNS.
--yu-loong--
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, JASON HOFFOSS wrote:
> Could be PPP isn't working correctly, or could be a lack of a DNS. There's
> a PPP-Howto you might want to check out.
>
> "Yu Loong Liew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I just got my winmodem working about a week ago. I can dial-up to my isp,
> > but I couldn't do anything after that! I can't check e-mail, surf the web,
> > etc. When I opened up netscape (after I connected to my isp), errors
> > regarding "cannot find server/page/etc" came up!
> >
> > Any idea of what I can set to get it working? I have RH7 with kernel
> > 2.4.1.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --yu-loong--
> >
>
>
>
>
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From: "OpenMined" <Mail Free Zone>
Subject: Sleep/Standby on ABIT VP6?
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:10:17 -0800
Sleep/Standby on ABIT VP6?
Considering the ABIT VP6 for Linux diskless computing nodes,
and wish to be able to place them into lowest power consumption
mode when computing demand is low (sorry, SETI).
Anyone doing this successfully running SMP with Linux?
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: xephem make file
Crossposted-To: linux.help,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:34:44 GMT
Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: errors last one being make: *** [aavso..o] Error 1
Visit this site for help. It's a new site just setup and maintained by the Xephem
author..http://www.clearskyinstitute.com/xephem/forum/
Also try sci.astro.amateur, alot of advanced xephem users there..
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From: "Robert Wiegand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Your Favourite X or Gnome Software?
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:14:39 -0600
In article <emTm6.6103$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Unknown"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> presentations: I hate to say this, but PowerPoint via VMware.
> Presentations that I do must be portable (ie they must work on a windoze
> only system) and I am unaware of a linux presentation application that
> will write self contained presentations that will run on a windoze box.
> I hear that PowerPoint can be run with Wine. I tried not too long ago
> and failed. Didn't work at it too hard though since I already purchased
> VMware.
StarOffice can produce presentations in HTML. Any browser can show them.
You don't get all the fancy stuff, but it does work.
--
Regards,
Bob Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: X Server questions
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:44:54 -0500
John Gill wrote:
>
> Just curious -- any idea what the RAM overhead of an X-Windows system,
> including desktop (GNOME, KDE, etc.) is. I have limited available memory,
> but need to use a GUI for some setup.
>
> -- JJG
>
> "Wayne Howarth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:97gi47$prb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Could somebody please try and explain to me the basic structure of X
> > Windows. I am coming from a Windows background and am slightly confused at
> > how the whole 'X' thing fits together. Somehow I just can't get to grips
> of
> > it being a graphical server???
> >
> > I am currently assuming that XFree86 is the GNU's implementation of an X
> > Server which runs locally. The desktop presumably is an X-Client (e.g.
> > Gnome, KDE, etc). Then the window manager acts as an agent which is called
> > by the X-Client to 'display' things.
> >
> > Any clarification/confirmation would be appreciated.
> >
While this may not be the whole thing, here are some parts:
PID USER PRI NI PAGEIN SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM CTIME
COMMAND
19233 root 0 0 787 28008 27M 2072 S 8.5 5.4 0:51
/etc/X11/X
20110 jdbeyer 0 0 7136 3464 3464 1932 S 0.6 0.6 0:03
enlightenment
702 root 0 0 17 340 320 272 S 0.0 0.0 0:16
gpm -t ps/2
751 xfs 0 0 451 2184 2172 708 S 0.0 0.4 0:01
xfs
19234 root 0 0 110 1600 1600 1376 S 0.0 0.3 0:00
/usr/bin/gdm
20052 jdbeyer 0 0 1295 2808 2808 2120 S 0.0 0.5 0:00
gnome-session
20106 jdbeyer 0 0 467 1952 1952 1552 S 0.0 0.3 0:00
gnome-smproxy
20127 jdbeyer 0 0 312 1304 1304 1028 S 0.0 0.2 0:00
gnome-name-service
20133 jdbeyer 0 0 1392 5208 5208 3100 S 0.0 1.0 0:01
panel
20139 jdbeyer 0 0 979 4424 4424 3304 S 0.0 0.8 0:00
gmc
20141 jdbeyer 0 0 764 3444 3444 2684 S 0.0 0.6 0:00
gnome-terminal
20146 jdbeyer 0 0 136 548 548 464 S 0.0 0.1 0:00
gnome-pty-helper
I am not sure I got them all, nor am I sure all these are relevant,
but most of them probably are.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 3:35pm up 23:34, 3 users, load average: 1.10, 1.09, 1.02
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: red-carpet for redhat
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:52:11 GMT
Ahmad Al-rasheedan writes:
> Is red-carpet for Debian based distros. only?
What is 'red-carpet'?
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pentium 4 support?
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:00:35 GMT
Scot Mc Pherson writes:
> Sure, but Ron wants to know if it will work for him...Sorry Ron I don't
> know the answer...
The answer is that it has nothing to do with the kernel.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Your Favourite X or Gnome Software?
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:56:45 -0500
Scot Mc Pherson wrote:
>
> What is your favourite software to use for e-mail, usenet and web-browsing?
I use Netscape 4.76, but it is not that I love it or anything. I
sometimes use /bin/mail or mutt for e-mail, and I use lynx when I
think there is something wrong with Netscape. I tried a couple of real
UNIX news clients, but I do not really like them. They remind me of
the bad old days when all news came through uucp. I guess that was in
either the late 1970s or the 1980s.
>
> What is your favourite productivity software for things like documentation,
> spreadsheets, presentations?
I use Applixware-5.00. It is better than Microsoft Office 97
Professional, or whatever it is that I have on my Windows machine. I
never tried StarOffice.
I use Lyx or LaTex sometimes instead of a word-processor. It depends
if it is just for me, or if I must share it with someone with only a
brain-damaged word-processor program.
>
> And finally, how about database software, what are your favourite servers
> and front ends?
I use IBM DB2 UDB V6.1. I guess you would say I use that as a server.
I tend to write my own clients, although IBM provide a few
general-purpose clients that allow you to manage a database with SQL
commands to a CLI.
I tried postgreSQL in about 1998 and it was lousy then. I infer from
what I read that it is somewhat better now.
I never tried MySQL: when I looked at it, I did not dare use it
because it did not handle transactions.
I switched to Informix-SE for a while, but it would not upgrade from
Red Hat Linux 5.0 to RHL 6.0 (I did not even need to upgrade the
database, since it would be a simple matter (though time-consuming) to
repopulate the database), and Informix would not help me.
That was when I switched to IBM DB2 6.1. It works just fine, but their
customer support is non-existant unless you are willing to pay them
$210/hour to even answer the telephone or answer e-mails. I refused to
do that.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 3:45pm up 23:44, 3 users, load average: 1.08, 1.08, 1.05
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO + Mylex 170
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:51:48 -0700
I am trying to convert a machine from a single SCSI drive to a RAID array
with a Mylex Acceleraid 170.
I've copied all of the files to the relevant partitions under on the new
array, but cannot seem to get LILO to install the boot loader and what-not
on the RAID array - all I get is "LI". Yes, I'm using the newest version of
LILO, which has support for Mylex boards.
Any clues what I should use in the lilo.conf to get this to work?
steve
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pentium 4 support?
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:53:55 -0700
> Does anyone know whether the 2.4 (or even 2.2.x) kernels can
> take advantage of the SIMD pipeline processor built into the
> Pentium 4 chip? Or even if this is a kernel requirement (in
> other words, does the chip take care of it behind the
> scenes?)
I would imagine that it would depend on the compiler that was used to
create the kernel. You might check to see if GCC has support for SIMD
instructions.
steve
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:00:22 +0000
>> The fact is that after the government privatised the railways, safety
>> went down the tube and they're having to bail out the company that owns
>> th railways with more public money.
>
> Lousy management is its own reward.
>
> Of course, since you guys have become sooooooo fucking socialist, all of
Yeah, sure. Whatever.
> your best managers left LONG ago for the United States.
So its come down to "my country is better than yours" arguments. This is
my last word on this thread.
cut the sig.
-Ed
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| @
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| .ac.uk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rich Piotrowski)
Subject: Re: RedHat-6.2+ kernel-2.4.0+PPP problem..
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:16:02 GMT
On 27 Feb 2001 09:35:10 -0500, Ish Rattan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Follow up on my own post. Ppp seems to work if I do
>
>modprobe ppp_async
>
>before
>
>pppd
>
>Is there a way to make this module automatically when pppd is
>invoked (like autoload when needed)? I think that is the norm,
>so what am I missing? Placing an entry in /etc/modules.conf does
>not seem to help..
>
>Thanks in advance.
>- ishwar
>
Try this from my modules.conf:
alias char-major-108 ppp_generic
alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic
alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async
# alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty
alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate
I think I found the answer in the "Changes" readme with the new
kernel. I assume you did read it?
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From: Linmaniac
Subject: Help with (re)installation
Date: 27 Feb 2001 20:54:09 GMT
Hi, recently i had some problems with my pc and i decided to uninstall Linux and
reinstall it. I deleted all Linux partitions, (/, /boot, swap) with the windows FDISK
(i also use win98 and i do dual boot), and i uninstalled Lilo from the MBR with "fdisk
/mbr".
Now i install Linux with the same programs, partitions etc as before, i install Lilo
at the MBR, but after installation i reboot my pc and i don't see Lilo. It loads
automatically Windows. I booted to Linux with a boot disk and gave the command "lilo"
but nothing again. Then i found that lilo.conf had disappeared. I don't know a lot
about Linux so please can you explain me why this is happening and how to fix it? I
thought to make a new lilo.conf but i don't know if it will help and how exactly to
make it so is there another way to fix it?
Thank you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: HELP!!! Installed glibc 2.2.2
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:54:54 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Justin Hibbits wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
>Yesterday, I decided to replace my RH7.0 glibc with glibc2.2.2, which compiled
>perfectly. However, I decided to puth the root of the install in /usr, which
>overwrote everything, even though it did not finish installing. Now, I am stuck
>using my old Mandrake rescue cd, which, luckily, has all the tools I need to
>repair my system. Now, I need to know the files to copy, where to copy
>them, and what files to edit, and how to edit them. Any help is accepted.
>
>Thanks to anyone who can reply to this message with at least somewhat useful
>info, besides "restore your RH7 system and try again"
[-]
I was afraid you'd say that.
Anyway, even a gone wrong install doesn't overwrite everything and the
most important stuff, the shared libs, are going to be there. The previous
versions, that is.
You can re-link them manually, no problem and don't forget to delete
/etc/ld.so.cache plus a ldconfig run.
What gets overwritten else (find -ctime is your friend) ...
/etc/nscd.conf
/usr/lib/some.a .a's corresponding to .so's
/usr/lib/some.o
/usr/lib/gconv/*
/usr/share/zoneinfo/*
/usr/share/i18n/*
/usr/share/locale/*
/usr/include/*
/sbin/sln uncritical
/sbin/ldconfig uncritical (?)
/usr/bin/catchsegv
/usr/bin/gencat
/usr/bin/getconf
/usr/bin/getent
/usr/bin/glibcbug
/usr/bin/iconv
/usr/bin/ldd
/usr/bin/lddlibc4
/usr/bin/locale
/usr/bin/localedef
/usr/bin/mtrace
/usr/bin/pcprofiledump
/usr/bin/rpcgen
/usr/bin/sprof
/usr/bin/tzselect
/usr/bin/xtrace
/usr/sbin/nscd
/usr/sbin/nscd.init
/usr/sbin/nscd_nischeck
/usr/sbin/rpcinfo
/usr/sbin/zdump
/usr/sbin/zic
/usr/share/info/libc.* or wherever you put it
Ta',
Juergen
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:48:57 -0500
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> >> The fact is that after the government privatised the railways, safety
> >> went down the tube and they're having to bail out the company that owns
> >> th railways with more public money.
> >
> > Lousy management is its own reward.
> >
> > Of course, since you guys have become sooooooo fucking socialist, all of
>
> Yeah, sure. Whatever.
>
> > your best managers left LONG ago for the United States.
>
> So its come down to "my country is better than yours" arguments. This is
> my last word on this thread.
No. Our politico-economic system is better than yours.
If the US ever becomes as socialist as England, I will leave....
maybe even change citizenship.
Socialism is merely a polite word for politicians stealing from
those who work for the benefit of those who choose not to do so.
>
> cut the sig.
>
> -Ed
>
> --
> | u98ejr
> | @
> Share, and enjoy. | eng.ox
> | .ac.uk
--
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Unix Systems Engineer
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Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
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