Linux-Misc Digest #249, Volume #27               Wed, 28 Feb 01 00:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: Initio's lack of Windows 2000 support (Dave Uhring)
  Re: simple question about startup skripts (Dances With Crows)
  Stop misspelling Beowulf ! ("Arctic Storm")
  Re: simple question about startup skripts ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Dual CPU ("rc")
  Re: Installing windows 2000 ("green")
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
  Swap File Question ("Dan Hull")
  Re: Ctrl + Alt + BkSp
  Re: Resume problems with APM on laptop (David Efflandt)
  Re: Install CD-RW on Linux ?? (Mike Perry)
  Re: Dual CPU ("D. Stimits")
  Re: Swap File Question ("D. Stimits")
  Re: Stop misspelling Beowulf ! ("James D Parker Jr.")

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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,microsoft.public.win2000.hardware
Subject: Re: Initio's lack of Windows 2000 support
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:11:31 -0600

And it will cost you and your company less to discard your incompatible OS 
and switch to Linux, BSD or Solaris.  No more seat licenses, no more 
scheduled "restarts", no more blue screens of death.

Dave


Tim Buck wrote:

> I sent this to Initio a few minutes ago. I thought some of you might be
> interested in it.
> 
> ===== begin rant =====
> I just found out the hard way that you do not support your INI-9100UW
> SCSI adapter under Windows 2000. I am dumbfounded by your decision to
> not support this product under Windows 2000.
> 
> For a company who appears to pride themselves on their cross-platform
> support, who provides drivers for their hardware for (most) Windows
> platforms, Linux, BSD, MacOS, UnixWare, and Solaris, the reasoning
> behind this decision to abandon the 9100UW is unfathomable.
> 
> I understand and agree that you should not be producing the 9100UW
> anymore -- Ultra 2 SCSI, LVD, and all the other latest buzzwords make
> Ultra Wide SCSI obsolete now. I have no problem with that; I do have a
> problem with you forcing your customers to discard perfectly good,
> functioning hardware, simply because they wish to upgrade their
> operating system. You're the only company I've seen do this; for
> example, I have yet to find a network card for which there's no Windows
> 2000 driver.
> 
> What's especially galling about your decision is that you consider the
> 9100UW an "end of life" product which you no longer support, yet it's
> still for sale in your online store, as of today!
> 
> Our company first began buying Initio SCSI adapters as a low-cost,
> high-performance alternative to expensive Adaptec adapters. We will no
> longer do so because of your ridiculous decision. It would cost you very
> little in development time to port your existing Windows NT 4.0 driver
> over to Windows 2000; it will cost you a lot in lost future sales
> because you haven't done so.
> 
> Timothy Buck
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: simple question about startup skripts
Date: 28 Feb 2001 03:16:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:02:39 +0100, Jan Duennweber staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>how (or where ?, in what file ?) should i tell linux to start a program
>automatically at startup (during the boot process) ? is there something
>special, when it is a program that can be only executed by "root" ?

The usual place for putting things like "hdparm -m16 -c1 -u1 -d1
/dev/hda" and other site-local commands that should be executed in every
runlevel is in /sbin/init.d/boot.local (SuSE) or /etc/rc.d/rc.local
(RedHat and derived).  These boot scripts execute as root, and therefore
can do anything, including starting daemons like sshd and directly
tweaking hardware like the hdparm command above.

If you need to execute a command at bootup only in a certain runlevel,
create a script in /sbin/init.d/ or /etc/rc.d/init.d/ , make it
executable, and create the appropriate links in the SysV init
directories (rc0.d .. rc6.d).  HTH,

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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From: "Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Stop misspelling Beowulf !
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:18:36 GMT

Stop misspelling Beowulf !
Beowulf is a legendary Geatish warrior and hero of the Old English poem.  I
don't know why the name Beowulf was chosen to designated clustering of
computers for parallel processing.  But my point is that "Beowulf" is
misspelled as "Beowolf".  As a matter of fact, I run into the misspelling
"Beowolf" more often than the correct spelling "Beowulf", on the internet.
The misspelling is so rampant that you can actually do a search of "Beawolf"
and get pages and pages of Supercomputing and Parallel Computing sites.  I
think the issue of correct spelling of "Beowulf" should be included in the
Beowulf FAQ.





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: simple question about startup skripts
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:22:30 GMT

Jan Duennweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> how (or where ?, in what file ?) should i tell linux to start a
> program automatically at startup (during the boot process) ? is
> there something special, when it is a program that can be only
> executed by "root" ?

You might want to look at the relevant manual page via the command:

# man init

It should tell you about the version of "init" that your distribution
uses, and indicate something about what sets of scripts it will
invoke.

There tend to be a mixture of approaches to starting things up to
satisfy different semantic needs:

 -> Simple services that requires only that the kernel be there may be
    configured to run from /etc/inittab (see "# man inittab")

 -> More sophisticated services that depend on other services being
    running (e.g. - an NFS server needs to have network services
    started) tend to be scripted somewhere in /etc/init.d or
    /etc/rc.d.

If your process is very simple, then /etc/inittab is probably the
answer.  If your process depends on other stuff running, then you
probably want to put a script into /etc/init.d or /etc/rc.d to start
up the service.
-- 
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@acm.org")
http://vip.hex.net/~cbbrowne/sgml.html
Rules of the Evil Overlord #218. "I will not pick up a glowing ancient
artifact and shout "Its power is now mine!!!" Instead I will grab some
tongs, transfer  it to a hazardous materials  container, and transport
it back to my lab for study." <http://www.eviloverlord.com/>

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From: "rc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual CPU
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:27:44 GMT

That worked.  Thanks.  By the way, how do I setup lilo to automatically
start linux-up?  I tried to edit the lilo.conf, but it does not work?

--
Roberto
"Cokey de Percin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Steve Wolfe wrote:
> >
> > > I installed RedHat 6.2 on a machine that has a dual CPU capability,
but
> > only
> > > has 1 CPU (not planning on adding).  After reboot, it crashes cause it
> > can't
> > > find the other CPU.  How do I fix that?
> >
> >   Some motherboards require a "terminator" in any unused CPU slot.  Is
yours
> > one of those?  If it seems like it's a problem with Linux, give us the
error
> > messages that you see.
> >
> > steve
>
> I've been running RH for some time now on dual systems and I haven't seen
> the problem you describe except for hardware problems.  That being said,
> when you get the boot prompt, hit 'tab' and you should see two kernels,
> and smp and a up.  Just type in the name of the up kernel and go.  Once
> you're up, edit lilo.conf so the up kernel boots.  Don't forget to run
> lilo when you're done.
>
> Best
>
> Cokey
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> F. 'Cokey' de Percin, DBA       Email:
> CSC (formerly Mynd)              Work - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Columbia, South Carolina         Home - [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: "green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing windows 2000
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:35:41 +1000

I put lilo on the same hd partition as linux. (the old mbr one still loads
linux at this point.)
then I installed 2000

Make sure you can boot linux from floppy or lilo is installed and working in
the linux partition.


and I installed xosl (xosl.org) wich saves the origional boot secter in case
its needed.
one entry is nt5's partition the other is linux's
and use that to select operating systems.

I'm sure other boot managers will allow the same thing.



"Jack Kaufmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:61Xm6.69$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am running Linux (Redhat 7) and windows 98 on separate partitions, with
> LILO on the MBR.  I would like to install Windows 2000 on a third
partition,
> and I know it wants to take over the MBR.  Can anyone give me any guidance
> re how to go about it?  Thanks.
>
>



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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:47:45 -0500



John Hasler wrote:
> 
> Aaron Kulkis writes:
> > Socialism is merely a polite word for politicians stealing from those who
> > work for the benefit of those who choose not to do so.
> 
> [Fill in the blank]ism is merely a polite word for politicians stealing.

Most forms, yes.

> 
> Fill in the blank properly, and you can invoke the law that will end this
> thread.  Please do so.

Fuck Godwin.


> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, WI

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Dan Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Swap File Question
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 04:00:03 GMT

To anyone whom can help:

I have a dual PIII 650, 256 meg ram, ide 20 gig hard drive.  I have Redhat
version 6.2 installed.  I manually configured my filesystem with fdisk.  In
that filesystem configuration I chose two separate swap file partitions of
125 meg each.  For some reason my system runs entirely on the ram memory and
will not access either of the swap file space at all.  Frequently after
running many daemons, etc. my machine goes erratic and eventually locks up
and I have to do an unclean shutdown, which corrupts the filesystem and has
to be cleaned upon restart.

Anyone know why the swap files are not working and more importantly, how I
can get them working again?

You can email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any help you wish to contribute.

Thanks.



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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ctrl + Alt + BkSp
Date: 28 Feb 2001 04:02:34 GMT

Peter Hamader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Option "DontZap" "boolean"
I have tried that. But just don't work, even after I restarted
my computer. I am using Lesstif/M*tif as window manager. Is that
hurt?
---- Brittle

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Resume problems with APM on laptop
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 04:22:18 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 26 Feb 2001 00:03:34 -0500, Jesse Sheidlower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm running RedHat 7.0 on a Dell Latitude C600 laptop. I'm having
>problems with APM, no doubt caused by my relative ignorance of 
>Linux, and I'm hoping someone could set me straight.
>
>If I suspend by typing apm -s (which I can only do as root),
>hitting the power key to resume brings me back to my login screen,
>rather than to the session I left.

Normally you would hit any keyboard key to resume.  Maybe hitting the
power botton reboots.

>If I suspend by shutting the
>cover, then resuming brings me to a console login window (rather
>than the X login from apm -s). Neither of these is particularly
>useful, since of course I'd like to be able to do something,
>whether shutting the cover or typing some command, that will allow
>me to start working from where I left off; otherwise it's not
>terribly useful having a laptop.

I don't have RH 7, but check /etc/sysconfig/apmd for various options, one
of which can switch to the console during suspend and back to your X
session during resume, for systems that have problems suspending from
X.  There is also an apm-scripts dir there you might want to peek at.

-- 
David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/  http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Perry)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Install CD-RW on Linux ??
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 04:38:23 -0000

On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:54:30 -0700, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:27:20 GMT, "John Gill"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Hi all.
>>
>>Is anyone using a CD-RW device on Linux ?  If so, what works best, IDE or
>>SCSI and what are the implications for use with Linux back-up software --
>>network based.
>
>I strongly suggest going SCSI. I have an IDE CDRW and it's a constant
>source of compatability problems with linux CD-burning applications,
>most of which require a SCSI drive or at least SCSI emulation. 
>
>With enough effort you can make an IDE drive work, but SCSI will save
>a lot of little headaches.
>
I have a HP ide burner that I use on SuSE.  There were a few steps I had to
do to make it work; but there is an excellent cdrw howto out there which
tells the steps.  With an ide burner, you have to use the scsi emulation
layer and trigger a few changes on how you mount cd's after that.  Its not a
big deal and it works.  If I had it to do again...I woulda bought a scsi
one.  Then there are relatively few steps.



-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:48:26 -0700
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dual CPU

rc wrote:
> 
> That worked.  Thanks.  By the way, how do I setup lilo to automatically
> start linux-up?  I tried to edit the lilo.conf, but it does not work?

Be sure you have a boot floppy before you update lilo. But once
lilo.conf has been edited, the actual update is done as root via:
lilo -v

> 
> --
> Roberto
> "Cokey de Percin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Steve Wolfe wrote:
> > >
> > > > I installed RedHat 6.2 on a machine that has a dual CPU capability,
> but
> > > only
> > > > has 1 CPU (not planning on adding).  After reboot, it crashes cause it
> > > can't
> > > > find the other CPU.  How do I fix that?
> > >
> > >   Some motherboards require a "terminator" in any unused CPU slot.  Is
> yours
> > > one of those?  If it seems like it's a problem with Linux, give us the
> error
> > > messages that you see.
> > >
> > > steve
> >
> > I've been running RH for some time now on dual systems and I haven't seen
> > the problem you describe except for hardware problems.  That being said,
> > when you get the boot prompt, hit 'tab' and you should see two kernels,
> > and smp and a up.  Just type in the name of the up kernel and go.  Once
> > you're up, edit lilo.conf so the up kernel boots.  Don't forget to run
> > lilo when you're done.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Cokey
> >
> > --
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > F. 'Cokey' de Percin, DBA       Email:
> > CSC (formerly Mynd)              Work - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Columbia, South Carolina         Home - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:52:44 -0700
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Swap File Question

Dan Hull wrote:
> 
> To anyone whom can help:
> 
> I have a dual PIII 650, 256 meg ram, ide 20 gig hard drive.  I have Redhat
> version 6.2 installed.  I manually configured my filesystem with fdisk.  In
> that filesystem configuration I chose two separate swap file partitions of
> 125 meg each.  For some reason my system runs entirely on the ram memory and
> will not access either of the swap file space at all.  Frequently after
> running many daemons, etc. my machine goes erratic and eventually locks up
> and I have to do an unclean shutdown, which corrupts the filesystem and has
> to be cleaned upon restart.
> 
> Anyone know why the swap files are not working and more importantly, how I
> can get them working again?
> 
> You can email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any help you wish to contribute.
> 
> Thanks.

Are the swap files listed in /etc/fstab? A sample:
/dev/hda3     swap      swap    defaults   0 0

If that doesn't work, perhaps you didn't run mkswap on the partitions in
question (installation usually does this for you on a partition marked
swap).

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From: "James D Parker Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stop misspelling Beowulf !
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:56:58 -0500

Arctic Storm wrote:

> Stop misspelling Beowulf !
> Beowulf is a legendary Geatish warrior and hero of the Old English poem.  I
> don't know why the name Beowulf was chosen to designated clustering of
> computers for parallel processing.  But my point is that "Beowulf" is
> misspelled as "Beowolf".  As a matter of fact, I run into the misspelling
> "Beowolf" more often than the correct spelling "Beowulf", on the internet.
> The misspelling is so rampant that you can actually do a search of "Beawolf"
> and get pages and pages of Supercomputing and Parallel Computing sites.  I
> think the issue of correct spelling of "Beowulf" should be included in the
> Beowulf FAQ.

So use Grindle instead.












(The correct spelling is Grendel)

Cheers :-)
Jim



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