Linux-Misc Digest #256, Volume #27               Wed, 28 Feb 01 20:13:01 EST

Contents:
  Linux Counter: 170412 registered Linux users ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  ppp error ("percy")
  Re: Pentium 4 support? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: lpr: print file too big - How to correct? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: c-pen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: red-carpet for redhat ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  ibcs broken in 2.4? ("John G. Sandell")
  Re: Web page publishing (Robert Heller)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Counter: 170412 registered Linux users
Date: 1 Mar 2001 01:00:04 GMT

This is the monthly report from the Linux Usage Counter.
It is posted on the 1st of every month on the newsgroup
comp.os.linux.misc, and on the Linux Counter "announce" list.

Registration and information is available via the World
Wide Web; connect to URL http://counter.li.org/

This is the preferred interface to the counter.

NOTE: You can UPDATE your record in the counter if you have
your registration key, which was sent to you when you registered.

EMAIL:

To enter your registration into the statistics, send an E-mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], with the SUBJECT line containing the word "Linux",
such as:

  I use Linux at home
  I use Linux at work
  I use Linux at school

Any questions should be adressed to the maintainer of the counter,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Good luck!

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This is the Linux Counter summary as of Thu Mar  1 00:52:01 2001

There are 170412 persons registerd.
3023 users have been registered by friends.
There are 92503 machines registered.

I guesstimate that between 0.2% and 5% of all Linux users have
registered with the Linux Counter.
So the total number of Linux users is probably between
3,408,240 and 85,206,000 people.

WHERE LINUX USERS LIVE
The table is sorted by number of Linux users divided by population

 No    Country                       Pers  Fri Mach P/Mpop   Mpop
======================================================================
  1 IS Iceland                        263    4  125 973.0    0.3
  2 FO Faroe Islands                   39    0    6 889.3    0.0
  3 NO Norway                        3517   49 1664 802.3    4.4
  4 FI Finland                       3729   55 2019 730.4    5.1
  5 DK Denmark                       3436   17 1426 654.5    5.2
  6 SE Sweden                        5368   60 2764 603.1    8.9
  7 AQ Antarctica                       2    0    0 486.0    0.0
  8 NF Norfolk Island                   1    0    0 452.7    0.0
  9 EE Estonia                        567   16  390 388.5    1.5
 10 SI Slovenia                       723    8  203 370.5    2.0
 11 NL Netherlands                   4403   51 2475 282.8   15.6
 12 GI Gibraltar                        8    1   11 278.1    0.0
 13 AT Austria                       1932   31 1166 240.8    8.0
 14 CA Canada                        6858   83 3852 238.0   28.8
 15 LU Luxembourg                      97    0   74 233.2    0.4
 16 MC Monaco                           7    1    5 220.7    0.0
 17 IE Ireland                        780    5  320 218.7    3.6
 18 AU Australia                     3646   50 2240 199.7   18.3
 19 NZ New Zealand                    689    3  433 194.2    3.5
 20 HU Hungary                       1935   48 1100 193.5   10.0
 21 CY Cyprus                         142    0   18 190.7    0.7
 22 CH Switzerland                   1358   16  875 188.4    7.2
 23 US USA                          48900  832 26950 183.5  266.5
 24 BE Belgium                       1806  525  975 177.6   10.2
 25 DE Germany                      11589  187 6629 138.7   83.5
 26 GL Greenland                        8    0    6 137.4    0.1
 27 SG Singapore                      449    7  183 132.2    3.4
 28 PT Portugal                      1273    9  407 129.0    9.9
 29 LI Liechtenstein                    4    0    4 128.5    0.0
 30 KR Korea (South)                 5540   19  551 121.8   45.5
 31 ES Spain                         4760   32 1447 121.5   39.2
 32 FR France                        7070  111 2992 121.2   58.3
 33 PL Poland                        4513   55 1858 116.8   38.6
 34 KY Cayman Islands                   4    0    3 115.5    0.0
 35 GB Great Britain                 6640  109 3850 113.5   58.5
 36 AD Andorra                          8    0    7 109.9    0.1
 37 IL Israel                         590   13  300 108.8    5.4
 38 CZ Czech Republic                 844   21  471  81.8   10.3
 39 BG Bulgaria                       659    6  253  76.5    8.6
 40 VG Virgin Islands (British)         1    0    0  75.8    0.0
 41 CR Costa Rica                     256    0   98  73.9    3.5
 42 LT Lithuania                      253    3  120  69.4    3.6
 43 UY Uruguay                        215    0   61  66.4    3.2
 44 GR Greece                         660   13  267  62.6   10.5
 45 HR Croatia                        305    6   96  60.9    5.0
 46 IT Italy                         3469   64 1606  60.4   57.5
 47 PW Palau                            1    0    0  59.0    0.0
 48 NC New Caledonia                   10    0   15  53.3    0.2
 49 SV El Salvador                    296    0   35  50.8    5.8
 50 BR Brazil                        7928   59 1687  48.7  162.7
 51 BM Bermuda                          3    0    4  48.3    0.1
 52 MV Maldives                        13    0    1  48.0    0.3
 53 SK Slovakia                       250    1  150  46.5    5.4
 54 VE Venezuela                     1012    3  186  46.0   22.0
 55 RO Romania                        981   36  480  45.3   21.7
 56 GU Guam                             7    0    2  44.6    0.2
 57 AW Aruba                            3    0    0  44.3    0.1
 58 BN Brunei                          13    0    2  43.3    0.3
 59 BB Barbados                        11    0    3  42.8    0.3
 60 MT Malta                           16    0   12  42.6    0.4
 61 AR Argentina                     1457    6  395  42.0   34.7
 62 SC Seychelles                       3    0    0  38.7    0.1
 63 CL Chile                          480    6  182  33.5   14.3
 64 MX Mexico                        3190   18  523  33.3   95.8
 65 LV Latvia                          82    0   54  33.2    2.5
 66 TW Taiwan                         681    5  225  31.7   21.5
 67 PR Puerto Rico                    118    0   28  30.9    3.8
 68 VI Virgin Islands (U.S.)            3    0    1  30.9    0.1
 69 BS Bahamas                          8    0    2  30.8    0.3
 70 ZA South Africa                  1200   10  531  28.7   41.7
 71 AN Netherlands Antilles             6    0    3  28.7    0.2
 72 MY Malaysia                       565    6  149  28.3   20.0
 73 PF French Polynesia                 6    0    5  26.7    0.2
 74 RE Reunion                         18    0    6  26.5    0.7
 75 TT Trinidad and Tobago             32    1    5  25.1    1.3
 76 FM Micronesia, Federated States     3    0    0  23.9    0.1
 77 KW Kuwait                          41    0   14  21.0    2.0
 78 BA Bosnia and Herzegovina          52    0    7  19.6    2.7
 79 MK Macedonia                       41    2    5  19.5    2.1
 80 AM Armenia                         67    0   12  19.3    3.5
 81 PA Panama                          51    0   21  19.2    2.7
 82 MP Northern Mariana Islands         1    0    1  19.1    0.1
 83 YU Yugoslavia (Serbia and Monte   202    6   86  18.8   10.8
 84 BH Bahrain                         11    0    6  18.6    0.6
 85 BZ Belize                           4    0    7  18.2    0.2
 86 MH Marshall Islands                 1    0    0  17.1    0.1
 87 AS American Samoa                   1    0    0  16.8    0.1
 88 MU Mauritius                       19    0    7  16.7    1.1
 89 RU Russia                        2446   34  928  16.5  148.2
 90 MO Macau                            8    0    2  16.1    0.5
 91 CO Colombia                       592    3  173  16.1   36.8
 92 TR Turkey                         971    9  206  15.5   62.5
 93 AG Antigua and Barbuda              1    0    2  15.2    0.1
 94 QA Qatar                            8    1    3  14.6    0.5
 95 AE United Arab Emirates            42    1   15  13.7    3.1
 96 PY Paraguay                        69    0   18  12.5    5.5
 97 MQ Martinique                       5    0    5  12.5    0.4
 98 TN Tunisia                        111    0   16  12.3    9.0
 99 UA Ukraine                        617   10  253  12.1   50.9
100 DM Dominica                         1    0    0  12.1    0.1
101 CU Cuba                           131    6   35  12.0   11.0
102 VU Vanuatu                          2    0    3  11.3    0.2
103 PE Peru                           236    0   35   9.6   24.5
104 NA Namibia                         16    0   11   9.5    1.7
105 LB Lebanon                         36    1    8   9.5    3.8
106 EH Western Sahara                   2    0    2   9.0    0.2
107 CV Cape Verde                       4    0    0   8.9    0.4
108 BY Belarus                         89    5   36   8.5   10.4
109 VC Saint Vincent and the Grenad     1    0    0   8.4    0.1
110 BO Bolivia                         59    0   15   8.2    7.2
111 JP Japan                          968    6  322   7.7  125.4
112 EC Ecuador                         84    0   19   7.3   11.5
113 MD Moldova                         32    0   10   7.2    4.5
114 ST Sao Tome and Principe            1    0    0   6.9    0.1
115 SR Suriname                         3    0    4   6.9    0.4
116 PH Philippines                    500    4  115   6.7   74.5
117 JM Jamaica                         15    0    3   5.8    2.6
118 GY Guyana                           4    0    1   5.6    0.7
119 DO Dominican Republic              43    0   12   5.3    8.1
120 GT Guatemala                       57    0   15   5.1   11.3
121 BW Botswana                         7    0    3   4.7    1.5
122 CM Cameroon                        66    0    8   4.6   14.3
123 MN Mongolia                        11    0    9   4.4    2.5
124 TH Thailand                       251    3   93   4.3   58.9
125 HN Honduras                        23    0    7   4.1    5.6
126 NI Nicaragua                       16    0    5   3.7    4.3
127 OM Oman                             8    0    2   3.7    2.2
128 KZ Kazakhstan                      61    0   21   3.6   16.9
129 PS Palestine                        9    0    0   3.4    2.6
130 JO Jordan                          13    0    3   3.1    4.2
131 ID Indonesia                      603   34  192   2.9  206.6
132 AL Albania                          9    1    4   2.8    3.2
133 KG Kyrgyzstan                      11    0    4   2.4    4.5
134 GE Georgia                         12    0   31   2.3    5.2
135 AZ Azerbaijan                      16    0    3   2.1    7.7
136 SA Saudi Arabia                    38    0   13   2.0   19.4
137 LK Sri Lanka                       36    1    3   1.9   18.6
138 ZM Zambia                          16    0    4   1.7    9.2
139 IN India                         1508   16  370   1.6  952.1
140 ZW Zimbabwe                        17    0    8   1.5   11.3
141 NP Nepal                           31    0    1   1.4   22.1
142 EG Egypt                           83    1   14   1.3   63.6
143 MA Morocco                         37    0   18   1.2   29.8
144 UZ Uzbekistan                      29    0   15   1.2   23.4
145 CN China                         1465    4  253   1.2 1210.0
146 PG Papua New Guinea                 5    0    1   1.1    4.4
147 IR Iran                            70    0   25   1.1   66.1
148 DZ Algeria                         30    0   12   1.0   29.2
149 CI Cote d'Ivoire                   13    0    5   0.9   14.8
150 SN Senegal                          8    0    0   0.9    9.1
151 GA Gabon                            1    0    3   0.9    1.2
152 PK Pakistan                       108    5   18   0.8  129.3
153 MG Madagascar                       9    0    4   0.7   13.7
154 KE Kenya                           18    0    4   0.6   28.2
155 VN Vietnam                         47    0    6   0.6   74.0
156 LY Libya                            3    0    1   0.6    5.4
157 NE Niger                            5    0    0   0.5    9.1
158 TM Turkmenistan                     2    0    1   0.5    4.1
159 TG Togo                             2    0    0   0.4    4.6
160 MR Mauritania                       1    0    0   0.4    2.3
161 BD Bangladesh                      47    0   10   0.4  123.1
162 MZ Mozambique                       6    0    2   0.3   17.9
163 CF Central African Republic         1    0    0   0.3    3.3
164 RW Rwanda                           2    0    0   0.3    6.9
165 ER Eritrea                          1    0    0   0.3    3.4
166 KH Cambodia                         3    0    1   0.3   10.9
167 SL Sierra Leone                     1    0    1   0.2    4.8
168 TZ Tanzania                         6    0    0   0.2   29.1
169 LA Laos                             1    0    2   0.2    5.0
170 BF Burkina Faso                     2    0    1   0.2   10.6
171 TJ Tajikistan                       1    0    1   0.2    5.9
172 HT Haiti                            1    0    1   0.1    6.7
173 SY Syria                            2    0    0   0.1   15.6
174 GH Ghana                            2    0    1   0.1   17.7
175 MW Malawi                           1    0    0   0.1    9.5
176 UG Uganda                           2    0    0   0.1   20.2
177 AO Angola                           1    0    0   0.1   10.3
178 NG Nigeria                          8    0    2   0.1  103.9
179 YE Yemen                            1    0    1   0.1   13.5
180 ET Ethiopia                         4    0    0   0.1   57.2
181 XW The World (Somewhere in it)    255  207    0   0.0 5771.9
182 SD Sudan                            1    0    0   0.0   31.5
183 MM Myanmar                          1    0    0   0.0   46.0
184 CD Democratic Congo                 1    0    1   0.0   46.5
185 WF Wallis and Futuna Islands        1    0    1   0.0    0.0


WHERE PEOPLE USE LINUX
Place      Users Percent
==============================
school     35434  21.09%
home       149569  89.01%
not used      21   0.01%
work       74296  44.21%
somewhere   2810   1.67%
==============================
TOTAL      168035 100.00%

NOTE: The total is the 168035 users who answered this question.
Some gave more than one answer, so the number of answers is 262130


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From: "percy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ppp error
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:52:54 +0800

Dear Linuxers
  i have a problem that is my linux dialin system can not receive the user's
dialin suddenly.
  after i checked, i discover that user can not run pppd after they dial in.
the error message is

[percy@master percy]$ ppp
/usr/sbin/pppd: must be root to run /usr/sbin/pppd, since it is not
setuid-root

the ppp is an alias(is it a problem?)

 i add a execute permission to
chmod u+x /usr/sbin/pppd
but it is not effect.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentium 4 support?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 01:02:15 GMT

>>>>> "Ron" == Ron Cresswell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ron> Does anyone know whether the 2.4 (or even 2.2.x) kernels can take
Ron> advantage of the SIMD pipeline processor built into the Pentium 4
Ron> chip? Or even if this is a kernel requirement (in other words,
Ron> does the chip take care of it behind the scenes?)

The most relevant dependancy here would not be on the kernel, but
rather on the _compiler_ being used to compile the kernel.  Which
would be GCC.

Reviews, by the way, seem to indicate that the present version of the
P4 is "pretty bad."  

See <http://www4.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q4/001122/p4-05.html>, for
instance.

The usual expectation would be that the CPU should take care of a lot
of this itself, invisible to the generic "Pentium code" being run.
But it's _possible_ that the pipeline processor requires writing code
specifically attuned to its use, in which case it won't get used well
until (if?) GCC gets modified to be "Pentium 4-aware."

In any case, it's not primarily a kernel issue...

Ron> PS If there is a better newsgroup for this type of question,
Ron> I'd appreciate being pointed in it's direction :)

comp.os.linux.development.system, probably...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lpr: print file too big - How to correct?
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 01:02:17 GMT

>>>>> "georgiev" == georgiev  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
georgiev> Hi, The lpr program refuses to take files bigger than ~800K
georgiev> for print - what means I can not print images. I have 9Mb in
georgiev> the printer, and anyways the lpr may not know how big will
georgiev> be the file after the filter processes it, so it has no
georgiev> business to limit the file size - the print filter may do
georgiev> that.

georgiev> I read almost anything around and did not found how to
georgiev> increase the limit.

georgiev> So, may please someone tell me how to increase the lpr/lpd
georgiev> file size limit?

The manual page for printcap certainly documents this.  If you don't
have appropriate man pages installed, see:

<http://www.linuxprinting.org/man/printcap.5.html>

The critical thing to introduce to your /etc/printcap file is the string:
  :mx#0:

That sets the maximum document size to be unlimited.  The default
value is 1000 blocks of size BUFSIZ.
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Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: c-pen
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 01:02:22 GMT

>>>>> "Stefano" == Stefano Ghirlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Stefano> Hi, I would like to know whether anyone is working on making
Stefano> the c-pen (http://www.cpen.com) work with linux.

<http://www.datamind.co.uk/merchant/pen_scanners2.htm> seems useful
in providing comparative information, and indicates that the Siemens
Pocket Reader may be a better choice.
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flexibilty of  C with that  of a drug-crazed  penguin. It is  also the
'language' of choice  of many CS professors who  aren't up to handling
REAL programming. Hence, it is not a language.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: red-carpet for redhat
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 01:02:26 GMT

>>>>> "Fabrice" == Fabrice Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Fabrice> John Hasler wrote:
>>  Ahmad Al-rasheedan writes: > Is red-carpet for Debian based
>> distros. only?
>> 
>> What is 'red-carpet'?

Fabrice> From http://www.ximian.com/, Red Carpet is the "next
Fabrice> generation Ximian updater and software management
Fabrice> application".  It's not Debian only. At the moment it
Fabrice> supports both RPM and DEB based systems.


apt-get configuration for it can be located at: 

deb ftp://spidermonkey.ximian.com/pub/red-carpet/binary/debian-22-i386/ ./ 

The thing that is confusing/irritating is that the marketing spiel
does _nothing_ to document just what the differences between "Red
Carpet" and apt-get are, and why, aside from it using "k001 web d00d
terminology," it should be considered preferable to the existing
stuff.

If 'red-carpet' was built as a spiffy GUIed front end to put in front
of apt-get, providing a UI for manipulating the "channels" one might
put into /etc/apt/sources.list, and providing a UI to manipulate the
packages being selected from that list, that would be well and good.

But it appears to be Yet Another Package Management System,
gratuitously separate from apt-get or Auto-RPM.
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effective."  <http://www.eviloverlord.com/>

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From: "John G. Sandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ibcs broken in 2.4?
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 01:05:48 GMT

I've compiled the iBCS modules dosens of times in previous versions of
Linux: Slackware, RH, Mandrake, SuSE.


But in 2.4.0 (SuSE 7.1) it won't compile:

bash-2.04# make
set -e; for i in iBCSemul Tools; do \
  test ! -d $i || \
    { make -C $i; }; done
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/ibcs/iBCSemul'
cc -D__KERNEL__=1 -DMODULE -D__NO_VERSION__ -I../include
-I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
-fomit-frame-pointer -m486 -DSOCKSYS_MAJOR=30  -DEMU_SCO -DEMU_ISC
-DEMU_BINFMT_COFF   -c xnx.c
In file included from xnx.c:38:
../include/ibcs/ibcs.h:47: warning: function declaration isn't a
prototype
xnx.c: In function `xnx_pathconf':
xnx.c:378: warning: implicit declaration of function `kmem_cache_free'
xnx.c:378: `names_cachep' undeclared (first use in this function)
xnx.c:378: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
xnx.c:378: for each function it appears in.)
make[1]: *** [xnx.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/ibcs/iBCSemul'
make: *** [all] Error 2
bash-2.04#


Anyone succeed in compiling it on linux 2.4?

TIA

John Sandell

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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Web page publishing
Date: 28 Feb 2001 19:02:37 -0600

  Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:56:05 -0500, wrote :

G> Jeff Roediger wrote:
G> 
G> 
G> > Brian
G> >    You wont find anything like FP on linux or freeBSD.
G> > There are programs like Bluefish that are out there. But you do need to
G> > know html.
G> > but just about any text editor will do.
G> > jeff
G> 
G> Yes, I finally figured this out although I settled on QUANTA2 which at 
G> least makes an attempt to be for those of us who are not programmers.  With 
G> it I believe I can muddle my way though the site update.
G> 
G> Thanks.  I just didn't want to have to install a text editor, learn how to 
G> use it, install an ftp program, learn how to use it.  Linux is wonderful 
G> but sometimes trying to get any work done is a bear.
G> 
G> For example, I wanted to change my logo so I decided to install the GIMP.  
G> 7 meg rpm download.  My package amanger complains that it won't handle 
G> anthing with major number => 3.  Downloaded 3 new versions of RPM to no 
G> avail Now in the process of downloading theGimp sources 12 megs.  No doubt 
G> when I try to compile it, something or other will be missing and I'll spend 
G> more time plinking around.
G> 
G> There's something to be said for just going down to the Office Depot and 
G> buying a program in a box.

What Linux distro did you install ?!?  GIMP is included in RedHat 5.2 through
6.2 (Don't know about RH 7.x).  

G>  
G> 
G> -- 
G> thanks....Brian
G>                                                  






                
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