Linux-Misc Digest #270, Volume #27 Fri, 2 Mar 01 17:13:04 EST
Contents:
strange behavior of "su" with KDE2.1 (Nicolas Remy)
Re: ap_mm_create in kernal 2.4.1. (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Re: 1.2 Giga bytes source code - KDE 2.1, no impression. :( (Matt Haley)
Linux and connection to the Internet
Re: compiling modules for a different kernel version? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Problems with shared dial-up ("Jeff Susanj")
Re: toshiba laptop shuts off! (Alex Yung)
Re: source for basic utils like ftp/cp/mv... where? (Alex K)
Re: Can I print to my LaserJet 3100 from Linux? (Robert MacGregor)
Several mingetty always running (Federico Bravo)
Re: Corrupted fonts after viewing binary file (Floyd Davidson)
Re: Athlon (Lee Webb)
Re: Hylafax (Kevin)
Re: Several mingetty always running (Kevin)
Re: source for basic utils like ftp/cp/mv... where? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Backup strategies for linux. (Stefano Ghirlanda)
win calls linux (Heiko Brüning)
The best site of Linux. In this site there are all of Linux. www.frecell.6go.net
("frecell")
Re: Linux and connection to the Internet ("Scot Mc Pherson")
purpose of port 53 "domain port"
Re: What are piranha, php, and phpfi? ("Mathias Rodenstein")
Disabling screen overwriting after exiting vi ("Tony Stocker")
Shutdown Linux without a keyboard (Marius)
Re: Shutdown Linux without a keyboard (Kathrin Geilmann)
Best html editor in Linux? (Edmond Song)
Re: Linux is always slow th enext morning, a cry for help! (Dan Kegel)
Re: Athlon ("Mathias Rodenstein")
Re: Can I print to my LaserJet 3100 from Linux? (Edmond Song)
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From: Nicolas Remy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: strange behavior of "su" with KDE2.1
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:00:19 -0800
I recently installed KDE2.1 on a PC with RH6.2.
Everything seems to work fine, except when I try to su to root. I always
get "incorrect password". If I login in a gnome session, I have no problem
with su, even when I use konsole.
Anyone knows where this could come from ?
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Subject: Re: ap_mm_create in kernal 2.4.1.
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:13:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:00:07 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L
Olczyk) wrote:
>I just tried compiling and installing 2.4.1 and here is a problem I'm
>having:
>when trying to start httpd I get a message
>Ouch! ap_mm_create(somenumber,"/var/run/mm.somenumber") failed.
>Error: MM: mm: core failed to acquire shared memory segment (Function
>not implemented): OS: no such file or directoy.
>It didn't give this message with a previous version of the kernel.
>Any idea what is going on?
>TIA
After doing a deja search ( sorry forgot that it is back ), I fond a
suggestion. Try running ipcs.
So I tried that and got messages,
kernel not configured for shered memory.
kernel not configured for semaphores.
I kind of figured this, but cannot find the macros in .config to set
these up. I also cannot find the location using "make xconfig".
Can anyone help?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Haley)
Subject: Re: 1.2 Giga bytes source code - KDE 2.1, no impression. :(
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:18:39 -0700
On Thu, 01 Mar 2001 23:22:48 GMT,
Try more <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>For 24 hours, I compiled the full KDE 2.1 source code at the bottom.
>Cause I'm using KDE 1.x right now, and wanted to see what's the KDE 2.1.
I'm beginning to believe that the standard way of testing hardware under
linux by compiling the kernel should be changed. I've experienced the
highest loads I've ever seen by building kde 2.1 with the '--enable-final'
option. I've seen a load of 5.89 so far, still in progress though so we
shall see...
--
Matt Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mandrake 7.2 / RedHat 6.1 / Windows 98 SE / FreeBSD 4.2 / Windows NT 4
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux and connection to the Internet
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:30:04 -0000
I'm new to Linux, just installed it on one of my Pentium machines. What
is the best way to get Internet access from this Linux box?
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: compiling modules for a different kernel version?
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:36:36 GMT
Krzys Majewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem in this case is that the kernel which ships with redhat 7
> appears to have some broken headers which prevent compilation of the
at least version.h is substituted in RH by some awk script. The real
kernel headers are to be found in /lib/modules/.../build/...
> bttv module, so I wanted to compile against a different kernel, but
You need to compile against their kernel source to run under their
kernel.
> depmod gives "unresolved symbols" errors if I try this.
> BTW, anyone know why redhat messes with the kernel source in the first
Because they (rh) are a mess.
peetr
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From: "Jeff Susanj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with shared dial-up
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:17:21 GMT
I had the same problem so I changed to "connect". This is a client/server
setup where the connectd daemen runs on the gateway and clients run on each
network machine. There are clients for both linux and Windows. The client
requests a connection and the daemon dials up the ISP. When it returns a
success indication to the client the user knows he can start browsing. If
several people are connected, the daemon won't drop the line until the last
one disconnects. However, when the last person finishes the line drops
immediately. There is no wait for the connection to time out. If a user
forgets to disconnect, the daemon will automatically disconnect after a
configurable delay. I use 30 minutes. Look on freshmeat.net and search for
"connect".
Jeff S.
"B.F. Thornborrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:LlOn6.352967$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Question:
>
> I have setup a small network with an Internet connection via a Linux host
> using IP masquerading. I have set-up dial-on-demand and DNS forwarding
for
> the network.
>
> The connection runs great, the only issue is on the initial dial-up. When
any
> of the Windows 98 client computers try to connect to the internet, the
host
> will dials as expected. Unfortunately, after about 20 - 25 seconds, the
> client will error out with the message host cannot be found. If the user
> waits until the modem finishes negotiating, and then clicks "refresh" on
the
> client, everything works as expected.
>
> How do I stop this annoying message on the Windows clients? Please help,
I've
> been digging for 2 days to resolve this.
>
> Brad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Yung)
Subject: Re: toshiba laptop shuts off!
Date: 2 Mar 2001 18:35:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This sounds like your laptop may not be under AC power. The battery
of my Toshiba would last about the same amount of time as yours.
Major Dondo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: /var/log/messages says nothing. No shutdown, no apmd messages. It's as
: if someone is pushing the power switch.
: I did some more testing. It seems that it shuts off consistently after
: some 220+/- minutes of inactivity.
: I'm still clueless.
: --Yan
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: wrote:
: >
: > what does /var/log/messages say? anything?
: >
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From: Alex K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: source for basic utils like ftp/cp/mv... where?
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 20:01:25 -0100
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> Alex K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > i explicitly said that i am NOT looking for source coming with distros.
>
> > i am looking for AUTHORATIVE places to get the source from. not some
> > redhat cd. like, where did the redhatpeople get their source from...
>
> It'll be on their cd.
>
> (think about it)
>
> Peter
i have no doubts that their source is on their source cd.
and while thinking about it i came to at least one conclusion,
the proposition "RH get their source from their own source cd"
creates a loop rather than an answer, even though it may be
identical to whatever is the official and current source.
anyway, i guess ftp.gnu.org is what i was after, after all.
thanks / alex k
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From: Robert MacGregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Can I print to my LaserJet 3100 from Linux?
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:02:06 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> Hi Robert,
>
> > I have a HP LaserJet 3100 printer. Each of my workstations is currently
> > running Windows 2000, and because of this, I can share this printer
> > among the workstations. Printer sharing was never part of HP's goals
> > with this product, apparently, because you can only share the printer
> > between two computers if both of their OS's are the same (Both W2K, NT
> > 4, or 9x).
>
> What is the interface to the HP LaserJet 3100?, does it support a ethernet
> connection or does it support a standard parallel printer port ?
>
> See ya
>
> Dean Thompson
It's a standard parallel port but the printer is not a standard printer
-- it's one of those "multifunction" jobs that prints, faxes, scans..
Thus their Windows drivers are not "standard" either and thus the
restrictions I mentioned with regards to Windows printer sharing.
I could care less about the fax and scan functionality.. I just want to
be able to print to this from Linux!
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From: Federico Bravo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Several mingetty always running
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:10:12 GMT
Hi. I always have 6 processes /sbin/mingetty running on my RH 7.0. Is
that normal ( BTW what does mingetty actually do ? ).
Thanks. Federico.
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Corrupted fonts after viewing binary file
Date: 02 Mar 2001 09:23:50 -0900
Simon Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Whist working in a vga bash shell I accidentally "more"d a binary file
>(I think it was boot.map). For some reason this caused the screen font
>for that shell to become corrupted. I could still type, and the
>commands were recognised, but the font just showed non-ascii characters.
That is one way to corrupt a terminal, but there are others too! And
there are several ways to correct it, as the multiple responses to your
post all indicate. However, there are some things you can set up to
make recovery easier.
Put this into your ~/.bashrc file:
alias sane='echo -e "\\033c";tput is2;stty sane line 1 rows $LINES columns $COLUMNS'
Then you have two options. You can type "reset", which
sometimes works, or you can type "sane" which will always work.
--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Webb)
Subject: Re: Athlon
Date: 2 Mar 2001 19:25:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:53:13 +0100, Mathias Rodenstein wrote:
>once more....
>
>i just bought a new 900-K7 and installed debian 2.2r2 on it, mostly i was
>curious how much better seti@home would run (compared to my old PII). but
>the improvement is about 10% 10 hours instead of 11...i run kernel 2.4.2.
>with Athlon option enabled...should there not be a higher increase in
>speed...
>
Not much help here but...
I've got a 900 on the A7V MB: 256MB CAS2 RAM, all running on Mandrkae 7.2
2.2.17-21mdk.
With seti set to nice 10, it takes 7 hours 45 mins on average...
How much ram do you have?
Lee.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin)
Subject: Re: Hylafax
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:32:32 GMT
I'd grab a copy of tkhylafax. It simplifies hylafax use
considerably.
G'luck....
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
> I am looking for tutorial / explicit instructions to perform
> simple fax functions, like receiving faxes and sending faxes
> and viewing faxes.
> I have read the HylaFAX Howto and it doesn't really tell how
> to use it. It basically tells how to set it up. Also the other doc
> on their site is also about setting it up basically and not
> using it for simple purposes.
> It seems complicated to set it up with all the options
>
> Thanks
> Mike
>
--
Unless otherwise noted, the statements herein reflect my personal
opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin)
Subject: Re: Several mingetty always running
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:41:01 GMT
This is normal. mingetty is waiting for you to login to your
virtual terminals. Cheers...
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Federico Bravo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi. I always have 6 processes /sbin/mingetty running on my RH 7.0. Is
> that normal ( BTW what does mingetty actually do ? ).
> Thanks. Federico.
>
--
Unless otherwise noted, the statements herein reflect my personal
opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: source for basic utils like ftp/cp/mv... where?
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:33:52 +0100
Alex K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>> Alex K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > i explicitly said that i am NOT looking for source coming with distros.
>> > i am looking for AUTHORATIVE places to get the source from. not some
>> > redhat cd. like, where did the redhatpeople get their source from...
>>
>> It'll be on their cd.
>>
>> (think about it)
> i have no doubts that their source is on their source cd.
And nor have I. Now continue thinking ...
> and while thinking about it i came to at least one conclusion,
Not trying very hard, evidently. Nor even deigning to look.
> the proposition "RH get their source from their own source cd"
> creates a loop rather than an answer, even though it may be
> identical to whatever is the official and current source.
> anyway, i guess ftp.gnu.org is what i was after, after all.
No it isn't. Are you unaware that srpm's by definition and design
contain the ORIGINAL SOURCE, plus PATCHES? And that even if they didn't
contain the original source (which they do) they would be obliged to
tell you where to get them, by virtue of the GPL.
Peter
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From: Stefano Ghirlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backup strategies for linux.
Date: 02 Mar 2001 20:49:47 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk) writes:
> a) I'm not sure I can satisfy 1). When I tar /usr for example, will
> I include /usr/local in the tar file even if it is a different
> partition.
There is a tar option to restrict operation to one filesystem.
> b) I don't know if there is a 3way to make incremental backups
> using tar.
Yes: tar --after-date='1 week ago' or something similar (see info tar).
--
Stefano - Hodie postridie Kalendas Martias MMI est
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From: Heiko Brüning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: win calls linux
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:17:46 +0100
Hallo!
I want to call on my linux-box with a win-box without any provider, just with
my telephone-number. Which program must I run on my linux-box, that my modem
answeres the call from my win-box automatically and I can log in in this way?
Greetings Heiko.
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From: "frecell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The best site of Linux. In this site there are all of Linux.
www.frecell.6go.net
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:11:42 +0100
The best site of Linux. In this site there are all of Linux.
www.frecell.6go.net
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From: "Scot Mc Pherson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and connection to the Internet
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 20:11:42 GMT
You need and ISP...
Try to get DSL or Cable Modem if you really want to feel the power of
Linux....Otherwise, a regular dial-up ISP will work fine, but you'll have to
do some reading to get your modem working.
--
Scot Mc Pherson
N27° 19' 56"
W82° 30' 39"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm new to Linux, just installed it on one of my Pentium machines. What
> is the best way to get Internet access from this Linux box?
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: purpose of port 53 "domain port"
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:59:45 GMT
What is the purpose of port 53 the "domain port"? I'm trying to close up
ports that have to need ot exposed to the internet and I'm not sure about
this one. I am running a name server is this vital for that? If not what
port does a dns server use? Thanks.
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From: "Mathias Rodenstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What are piranha, php, and phpfi?
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:50:05 +0100
those are modules to enhance the capabilities of your web/ftp/server...since
you do not want to run either you can remove them
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From: "Tony Stocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Disabling screen overwriting after exiting vi
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:02:40 -0500
All,
I'm running both RedHat and Mandrake systems and many users are complaining
to me of a "feature" of these distributions (or perhaps Linux in general).
Here's the situation:
* open a file with vi
* exit vi
Instead of the information from vi remaining on the screen, the screen is
reset to the previous screen before vi was launched.
I have tried changing the .Xdefaults file to include:
XTerm.VT100.titeInhibit: false
or
xterm*titeInhibit: off
But neither has any effect.
Can someone please tell me how to disable this "feature" of Linux either on
a per-user basis or system-wide?
Thanks very much.
-Tony
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From: Marius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Shutdown Linux without a keyboard
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 23:28:08 +0100
Hi,
I have S.u.S.E. Linux installed on a slow machine which I am using as a
router. I do not need a screen for it but before I switch off power, I
have to let it shut down of course.
I do not want do do it with a keyboard (Ctrl+Alt+Del) any more (too big)
Does anybody know how to shut a linux machine down over another hardware
(like just pressing a button on my desk) ? Is there some software that
recocnizes short circuit on com 1... which then shuts down the machine?
Have a nice day!
Marius
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From: Kathrin Geilmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shutdown Linux without a keyboard
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:36:29 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Marius wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have S.u.S.E. Linux installed on a slow machine which I am using as a
> router. I do not need a screen for it but before I switch off power, I
> have to let it shut down of course.
>
> I do not want do do it with a keyboard (Ctrl+Alt+Del) any more (too big)
>
> Does anybody know how to shut a linux machine down over another hardware
> (like just pressing a button on my desk) ? Is there some software that
> recocnizes short circuit on com 1... which then shuts down the machine?
Exactly for that purpose, there was published a project in the german
magazine Linux-Magazin some months ago. Small Circuit with some Buttons
connected to the parrallel or serial port (I'm not sure which one).
Kathrin
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From: Edmond Song <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Best html editor in Linux?
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:32:32 -0600
What is the best webpage editor for linux? I prefer having equations and
figures in the html files. Thanks
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From: Dan Kegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.redhat,mailing.unix.samba-ntdom
Subject: Re: Linux is always slow th enext morning, a cry for help!
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:33:25 GMT
Manfred Bartz wrote:
> Use qmail, or if you have religous objections to it,then maybe postfix.
I have to say, dj doesn't make it easy. I tried once and was
defeated by the interlocking nested dependencies on his other
packages.
- Dan
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From: "Mathias Rodenstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Athlon
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:46:35 +0100
"Lee Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:53:13 +0100, Mathias Rodenstein wrote:
> >once more....
> >
> >i just bought a new 900-K7 and installed debian 2.2r2 on it, mostly i was
> >curious how much better seti@home would run (compared to my old PII). but
> >the improvement is about 10% 10 hours instead of 11...i run kernel 2.4.2.
> >with Athlon option enabled...should there not be a higher increase in
> >speed...
> >
> Not much help here but...
> I've got a 900 on the A7V MB: 256MB CAS2 RAM, all running on Mandrkae 7.2
> 2.2.17-21mdk.
> With seti set to nice 10, it takes 7 hours 45 mins on average...
> How much ram do you have?
>
> Lee.
384mb all 133
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From: Edmond Song <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Can I print to my LaserJet 3100 from Linux?
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 17:00:47 -0600
Try to use Remon and you need GhostSript and Ghostiview from Aladdin . The
device driver
that you will use is mswinpr2, though. Find out more details on their
website at
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.htm
Cheers!
Otherwise, why bothers? Wait until someone wrote the driver for that Hp
machine, or convert your file to
PDF to print.
Robert MacGregor wrote:
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/redmon/redmon.html#104
> The answer is probably 'no' but I'll ask anyway..
>
> I have a HP LaserJet 3100 printer. Each of my workstations is currently
> running Windows 2000, and because of this, I can share this printer
> among the workstations. Printer sharing was never part of HP's goals
> with this product, apparently, because you can only share the printer
> between two computers if both of their OS's are the same (Both W2K, NT
> 4, or 9x)..
>
> So, I want my own workstation to run Linux. I'd rather not buy a
> different printer just so I can print.
>
> I am assuming that if I cannot share the printer between a W2K and a 98
> box, that I definitely won't be able to share it between W2K and a Linux
> box. Hopefully I'm wrong.
>
> Is there some sort of proxy program I can run on the workstation to
> which the LJ 3100 is connected that will create a "virtual" generic
> shared printer device?
>
> Thanks for any help and suggestions!
> -
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