I think this is great! I think we could possibly make gentoo news, particularly if we 
used the whole uni network for distcc'ing. (although ostc sounds more feasible)

BTW does anyone know how to set up distcc? do i just emerge distcc on my gentoo box?

On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:44:24 +1200
Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:52, Brad Beveridge wrote:
> > Yep, we would also probably want to setup our own gentoo (partial) mirror
> > rather than nfs sharing the portage tree.  I think I remember somebody on
> > this list doing that? Christopher - since this is your baby, do you want to
> > figure out a rough roadmap of how to go about a Gentoo distributed
> > installfest? 
> OK, First things first:-
> 
> How many people on the list would be seriously interested in this?
> The number interested will define the location of the venue.   
> Note that you _must_ have a linux compatible network card installed in your 
> machine for this idea to even totter into the realm of possiblity.
> We will also need a hub / switch with sufficient ports for each machine.
> 
> > Some things to consider off the top of my head -
> 
> > Initial environment (boot CD or existing linux distro)
> Boot cd. Much simpler. There are CD image files which have various stages of 
> 'normal' applications pre-compiled for one to be able to get a good 
> head-start on creating your own system customised to your own requirements.
> 
> >  - Hardware detection/setup notes
> Currently, The Gentoo install requires you to generate a custom kernel and set 
> of modules for your machine, and therefore you have to have the knowledge and 
> information about your machine to be able to do that. 
> 
> >  - Portage mirror or sharing from NFS
> I had thought the latter, but the former is probably a better idea.
> We'd need a machine ( grunt required is dependent on number of attendees ) to 
> run a fast web server ( Boa? ) and 2 or 3 Gbytes spare disk space.
> 
> >  - DNS setup
> Depends on how many of us want to do this.
> IPCop has both a DHCP server and a pretty convenient static IP system.
> 
> >  - distcc setup (and at what stage)
> Umm, yes indeed, more thought and research needed,
> i.e. I know sfa about distcc.
> 
> >  - Kernel compiles
> See above, Yes we'll have to do them for each machine type.
> As always, the major difficulties are going to be getting the video 
> acceleration, sound cards and win-modems to work properly. Very good place 
> for folks to learn how to build a custom kernel even if they don't want to 
> install Gentoo.
> 
> >  - things to do while we wait on compilers :)
> Drink: tea; coffee; beer; wine. Eat, have lunch together while machines do 
> their thing; chatter; sleep, and normal human functions as appropriate.
> 
> 
> > Brad
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dale Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2003 9:42 a.m.
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Gentoo Installfest (was Re: OpenBSD)
> > >
> > >
> > > An idea would be to setup distcc on the boxes that are built
> > > ...that way ones
> > > with slower machines wouldnt be sitting there for 2 days
> > > waiting for stuff to
> > > compile .....
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Dale.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:37, you wrote:
> > > > I also think this is a good idea, but maybe not as a "public
> > > > installfest" like the Mandrake/RedHat ones. Just a small
> > >
> > > gathering of
> > >
> > > > everyone on the list who wants to try Gentoo (*puts up hand* ;-) or
> > > > who wants to get updated packages quickly for their current
> > >
> > > system (if
> > >
> > > > they're on a modem connection at home). If you can share
> > >
> > > the portage
> > >
> > > > tree... and you can share the compiling...
> > > >
> > > > Could we have, say, everyone who gets an install up and
> > >
> > > working leave
> > >
> > > > their machine running to help others who are still
> > >
> > > installing? Is it
> > >
> > > > just me, or would that be _damn_cool_? ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Gareth
> > > >
> > > > >===== Original Message From
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== I
> > >
> > > > >think this is a good idea, though I expect it to be far
> > >
> > > more complex
> > >
> > > > >than a
> > > >
> > > > standard (Redhat/Mandrake) installfest.  As such, I would
> > >
> > > suggest that
> > >
> > > > the organisers have a "practise" run with a few experts who are
> > > > willing to give Gentoo a try - so that some of the issues can be
> > > > ironed
> > > >
> > > > >out earlier.
> > > > >Personally I'm willing to come along & help out, and I'll bring my
> > > > >box to
> > > >
> > > > help out with the distcc compile effort.
> > > >
> > > > >Brad
> > > > >
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2003 11:16 p.m.
> > > > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >> Subject: Re: Gentoo Installfest (was Re: OpenBSD)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:22, you wrote:
> > > > >> > Gentoo is looking more feasible by the minute...I am
> > >
> > > running out
> > >
> > > > >> > of excuses not to at least try it. =)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Does all theis interest in Gentoo mean that we are going
> > >
> > > to have to
> > >
> > > > >> organise a Gentoo Installfest?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Not as silly as it might at first seem because it would
> > >
> > > then allow
> > >
> > > > >> the sharing of the portage tree. Mine is now at something of the
> > > > >> order of ~1.7GBytes.
> > > > >> Some of it might be old files, but I did have a big purge not
> > > > >> so long ago. That fileset could be shared around to minimise
> > > > >> download bother, also gentoo
> > > > >> can now use the distributed compiling idea, so a group could
> > > > >> probably get it
> > > > >> all going pretty quickly - In a living memory time-span
> > >
> > > anyway :-)
> > >
> > > > >> Remember that the installation of Gentoo is not for the
> > >
> > > total newb,
> > >
> > > > >> but getting new packages and doing upgrades is totally ( 99.999%
> > > > >>
> > > > >> :-) free of
> > > > >>
> > > > >> problems.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Note that the Gentoo Weekly News reports today that the Gentoo
> > > > >> system has been ported to the the Darwin Kernel on PPC.
> > >
> > > You can now
> > >
> > > > >> have all your X11 based
> > > > >> toys _and_ Photoshop etc on the same machine without rebooting!
> And the convenience of the Gentoo Portage system to install and update you 
> apps.
> 
> --
> C. S.
> 
> 


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