Yeah the court case's have been rather interesting .....definitly up there
with the current SCO movement ;-)

the latest bit at groklaw is rather a laugh ....I really do wonder what the
SCO Group is smoking ......

Dale.
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From: "Nick Elder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Michael's Minute: Bill - I don't want your $1,158



Hi,
I found the email of interest as I have been following Linspire's fight with
M$ (the evil empire) for these past months. The website version has a few
other links: http://www.linspire.com/lindows_michaelsminutes.php    Linspire
was forced by the courts to change their name from Lindows in several
countries recently (incase you didn't already know this).
If you think the name Michael Robertson rings a bell with you then its
probably because he used to be in the news with his controversial company
some years back called mp3.com. Google just now found this about Michael:
http://history.acusd.edu/gen/recording/robertson.html

Nick Elder


On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:05, Dale Anderson wrote:
> nnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo not again ..... /me sobs
>
> ;-)
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> From: "dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "clug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 8:18 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Michael's Minute: Bill - I don't want your $1,158
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> Michael's Minute: Bill - I don't want your $1,158
>
> - ---Original Message---
> Subject: Bill - I don't want your $1,158
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Bill,
>
> As you were probably informed over the weekend, your legal team lost the
>  latest court battle against Lindows, Inc. in the windows trademark case.
>  This time we were in a Dutch courtroom, where the Judge ruled against
>  Microsoft on all counts. Here's a link to the English translation of the
>  ruling. The ruling states that we can continue to use Lindows as we are
> now using it, but most telling was the Judge's monetary finding. In a case
> that Microsoft initiated and asked the Judge to fine us 100,000 euros per
> day, the Judge ruled the opposite direction and told Microsoft to pay us
> $1,158.
>
> But truth be told, I don't want Microsoft's money, I just want a chance to
>  compete and grow my company. If you can think back to when you started
>  Microsoft, sure there were big companies like IBM, but they didn't use
the
>  ruthless tactics that Microsoft now employs. How could you have built
your
>  company in that kind of environment?
>
> No, I don't want your money, I just want to compete without Microsoft
>  terrorizing us and everyone in the PC business who works with us. It's
> tough
>  building a business when hardware partners are told they will lose access
> to
>  Microsoft tier 1 support if they help us. Resellers get squeamish when
> they get lawsuit threats from Microsoft. Retailers are hesitant when there
> is veiled innuendo that they may not be eligible for the MDF "market
> development funds" that you provide to them, which are key to their
> profitability. And of course, Lindows is bothered by your legal strategy
to
> bury us with lawsuits.
>
> I understand that Lindows is the most obvious target of Microsoft's
> actions, since we challenge Microsoft's power base - the desktop. I think
> we'd have a
>  lot more than 350 OEMs if so many weren't intimidated by Microsoft. We'd
>  probably have more stores carrying our computers with our one-click easy
>  operating system if they didn't fear retaliation just for talking with
us.
>
> Of course, I'm keenly aware of how Microsoft has vanquished so many
>  competitors in the past. To the portion of that success which can be
>  attributed to healthy competition, you have my respect. But some portion
> has
>  been built on dirty tactics, and I'm asking you to rethink using that
>  strategy with desktop Linux and my company, Lindows.
>
> Occasionally we hear from Microsoft employees who follow Lindows, and
their
>  reaction surprises me. (Hundreds of Microsoft employees receive the
weekly
>  Michael's Minute.) The first thing they usually do is apologize for the
>  corporate behavior of lawsuits, bogus reports, and other underhanded
>  tactics. They know the corporate mantra is "we like competition," but
> behind
>  the scenes try to kill it. But they TRULY do want competition. They
> believe they can compete. They know that having Netscape around made them
> build Internet Explorer, but since Netscape was wiped out, Internet
> Explorer has stagnated. Bill - I encourage you to poll your employees and
> ask them yourself. I'm confident that they'll say they want to compete
> head-to-head with Linux in an wholesome manner.
>
> Do you believe that Microsoft can compete with Linux? Do you believe in
> your employees? Do you believe in your products? I encourage you to
> consider abandoning the litigation and terror strategy. No more backing of
> lawsuits for trademark, patent or copyright issues against Linux. No more
> threatening
>  of companies that add Linux to their product line-up. Just straight up
>  competition against Linux. Your employees will thank you, and it will
> usher in an era of healthy competition in the PC business.
>
> - -- Michael
>
> - --
> Dave Lilley
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