mike sherry wrote:
Hi all,
I believe that the Xenix OS was made available for the Lisa, does
anyone have any experience of running this ? What is it like ? How
limited is it ? Can I put it on an internal Scsi and use Macworks to
boot it ? Does anyone know where I can get hold of a copy ?
I've used it, and continue to occasionally use it. It comes with two
optional packages, one called Lyrix which has some text based office
software (word processor, etc.) and needs a serial #. The other is a
set of compilers. Ideally you need either two ProFile drives (which
means you need the dual-parallel card) or a 10MB Profile or Widget drive.
The C compiler isn't ANSI, it's K&R which means you can't compile most
current software. It's very very primitive. No netowrk stack, no
TCP/IP. It does support TTY's on the serial ports, and it's text only,
I don't recall if the mouse was supported at all - perhaps under the
Lyrix software, but I doubt that.
You can't use MacWorks to boot it, but I think you can share a Profile
with a MacWorks partition, though Xenix itself will want most of the
space anyway.
You'll also want to find a book on Xenix as it's not quite Unix, and it
seems to lack man pages, so it's not as nice or easy as Linux or
anything modern. It's still fun to play with.
If I recall right, you boot off the first floppy, which says boot on one
line, then just a : - if you hit enter, it'll say fd(0,0) and boot off
the floppy. The first disk has a file system on it with the installer
and it requires a Widget or Profile drive be attached (and turned on.)
it'll then ask you how you want to install it and eventually what to do
with the optional packages.
The other disks are in TAR format. I recall trying to transfer Xenix
TAR files to my Sun machine using xmodem or uuencode or something, and
while it read them the tar format was also in some weird state and the
Sun machine restored the files just fine, but the file names had an
extra control char as the first letter of the file name - easily fixed
with some bash scripting, but a pain in the ass none the less.
Another thing I remember is that Xenix has a /u file system instead of
/usr and a /v (I think) instead of /var or something weird like that.
If you trawl the used books on ebay you might find some PC Xenix books
that will be helpful.
Mind you, Xenix was quite a nice Unix like environment for its time. I
do wish someone would dig hard to see if they happen to have UniPlus
disk images and "liberate" them as UniPlus was supposedly a true Unix
System V Unix, but no one I've ever spoken to seems to have run across
this. A long time ago I contacted the company that made this, but they
were unwilling/unable to sell me a copy, though they did confirm that
they were the company that produced it. :)
There used to be something called Raoul's Lisa Software archive which (I
think I remember had this), but it's no longer there, though that page
can be found here: http://www.whoopis.com/lisa/ without the Xenix
images. A few google searches for Xenix and Sit or Xenix and Lisa
didn't turn up much.
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