Hi Philip, I've prepared for you some image files that will be usefull. You can download them directly from my website: http://www.deiana.com/lisa/
- LOS3.1#1.dart.hqx is the binexed image, in DART format, for the Lisa OS 3.1 US boot disk ; - MacWorksXL_TEST_Ver3.0.dart.hqx is the binexed image, in DART format, for the MacWorksXL TEST v.3.0 (LISA Format, it boot directly and test correctly the Mac XL hardware). - DART.sit.hqx is the binexed stuffit compressed application to use to create the floppies (Use an old Mac to launch Dart). Ciao, Guido Deiana Padova, Italy -------- Messaggio Originale -------- ==> Da: Philip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ==> Data: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 11:30:26 0900 As my HD is non functional at present, I was wondering if anyone has a bootable disk image that they could email me and I can continue testing my lisa with? Or even better does anyone know where I can download a bootable disk image? Cheers Phil On Oct 6, 2005, at 12:18 PM, Philip Lord wrote: > Thanks again for the insights. > > I have done a little more testing: > > - > Error 57 with Parallel cable plugged in (rear port) > - Will not attempt to > boot from floppy with parallel cable > unplugged (from rear), but no error > 57. Waits on 'insert floppy' > prompt. Does not see floppy > - With all > internal cables unplugged from HD, floppy will attempt > to boot. However it > is ejected very quickly. I assume It can not > find the system on the disc (I > can not confirm 100% if I actually > have a bootable floppy) > > As Tom > mentioned, I think these could all be symptoms of bad power, > bad drive or > bad drive controller board. > And as jerry mentioned, this setup was working > (as is) a few years > back, so It is very unlikely to be a ROM version > problem, or > mismatched parts ...will investigate further. > > Cheers > > > Phil > > On Oct 5, 2005, at 5:07 PM, macmoni wrote: > > >> Hi Philip, >> >> > short answers again :-) >> >> >>> >>> ...has what looks like a Sun Rem 20 > meg HD installed internally >>> with a cable... >>> >>> >> definiteley a > later-on upgraded Lisa. Very likely not by Apple ! >> >> >>> >>> Can I boot > from a floppy without a keyboard and mouse??? >>> >>> >> Yes, of course; no > problem. But then you can't do some further >> tests - without mouse or > keyboard... >> To shut down the Lisa again, you will have to push the start > >> button again and wait some seconds until you hear a "clack" and >> the > screen will get dark. >> >> >>> >>> 'If' the floppy works then I can assume > the Sun Rem HD, or HD >>> controller card is bad. Would I be correct? >>> >>> > >> Yes, or this Sun Remarketing HD interferes with the Lite-Adapter >> or the > ROM on the IO Board, as I wrote in my last email yesterday. >> Or the whole > configuration consumes so much power, that your >> (still built in) 1.2 A > power supply isn't able to feed :-) >> Or somebody interchanged the IO Board. > You cannot run every type >> of IO-Boards in a Lisa, when you want to use a > HardDisk >> (especially the early Boards). >> >> >>> >>> ...mouse is a > M0100... the same as the Mac 128/512k's mouse. >>> However the connector on > the back of the lisa does not look like >>> the connector on the original > Macs... >>> >>> >> There were three kinds of mice available: >> >> The first > ones for Lisa (and for Apple II with Mouse Card in the >> expansion slot). > Characteristic was the plastic connector which >> could be described as an > rectangle with round corners and the >> upper side of the rectangle was > additional 3mm spared out. >> The second mouse (chronological) was the Mac > 1984 mouse (later >> renamed Mac 128k). The connector is much bigger, cause > it now has >> two screws with huge knobs. The Pins are the same, so it will > fit >> like the first mouse. >> >> The third mouse has a much smaller > connector again, but the two >> scres remained, although they are not so big > (smaller diameter) >> >> All these three types of mice will fit in the > connector-plug of a >> Lisa. >> I had a Prototype of a Lisa 1, which had a > connector, which only >> supports the mouse 1, cause there was this rectangle > "nose" on top >> of the connector of the motherboard. >> >> >>> >>> On the > occasions when the power supply works, the monitor will >>> occasionally > shift of flicker very slightly, this movement seems >>> rhythmically timed > >>> >>> >> interesting ! >> I never saw this before. Chaotic, yes, but > predictable, cause >> rhytmically... >> What time periods? >> >> >>> with a > quiet hissing noise from the PSU. I'm waiting for a 1.8 >>> amp PSU to arrive > soon. >>> >>> >> That's better, in deed ! >> >> Greetings TOM from bavaria, > the center of europe, the country of >> the alps, the marvellous castles of > Koenig Ludwig and the original >> Oktoberfest >> >> -- >> LisaList is > sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... >> >> Shop buy.com and save. > <http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html> >> >> Support Low End Mac > <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> >> >> LisaList info: > <http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html> >> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; >> > Send list messages to: <mailto:[email protected]> >> To > unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> For digest mode, email: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> >> Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/> >> >> iPod > Accessories for Less >> at 1-800-iPOD.COM >> Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good > Deal >> www.1800ipod.com >> >> >> > > -- > LisaList is sponsored by > <http://lowendmac.com/> and... > > Shop buy.com and save. > <http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html> > > Support Low End Mac > <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> > > LisaList info: > <http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html> > --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; > > Send list messages to: <mailto:[email protected]> > To > unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For digest mode, email: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/> > > iPod > Accessories for Less > at 1-800-iPOD.COM > Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good > Deal > www.1800ipod.com > > -- LisaList is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... 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