Sorry, forgot to copy this to this list. Antony -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Antony Van Couvering Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 12:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: DNSO participant's list; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ORSC; IATLD Members list Subject: Quick Take on "closed" meeting Einar Steffarud wrote, > I am still in California, but Jay and Mikki are planning to attend > that closed meeting, in part to be sure that what happens there is > make public, or if it is "not for attribution" and "secret" to make > sure the public knows which and what happened. Bering present does > not in any way indicate any kind of endorsement by ORSC or its > pariticpants, in or out of that meeting. > > Inded, we understand that certain DNSO.ORG interests are trying to bar > Mikki Marry from attending. So, it will be interesting to see what > happens. And, I assure you that we wil not remain silent. > > Cheers...\Stef I attended the meeting, and took copious notes. I was planning to publish the minutes tonight, before the open Friday meeting, but I'm completely bushed and I don't know if I'll be able to. If not, they'll appear in a couple of days. Short version: Nothing was decided, there was little or no debate until the very end, it was run by a professional facilitator who treated the whole thing a bit like marriage counseling. Which in a way I suppose it was. We started with presentations by DNSO.ORG (Amadeu Abril i Abril), INTA (Michael Heltzer), ORSC (Jay Fenello) and AIP (Assocation of Internet Professionals, which came forward with an 11th-hour draft application, presented by Bret Fausett). I won't describe these except to say that they were not long, and used a broad brush. The presenters then took questions. Coffee break. Then we were asked to indentify major issues (funding, incorporation or not, membership structure, relationship to ICANN, various other obvious targets), then we took a series of straw polls about what we thought about these issues. The results were unsurprising: everyone agreed that the mission of the DNSO was to recommend policies to ICANN; most people thought that it would be better if the DNSO was not incorporated as a separate legal entity; they were much more divided on whether the DNSO should, for decision-making, use a consensus model (with the Names Council managing the consensus of the constituencies and/or membership), or a representative democracy model (the members elect a Names Council, which makes most of the decisions -- with proper review and consultation with the members, etc. etc.). There were a couple of other questions as well, and I'll include the polling in my notes. The last part of the meeting was spent refining the agenda for the next day, finding out how many proposals there were to be presented, how much time there would be for presentations, "interventions", and questions/comments. There was a cocktail afterwards and there was a good mixing among the attendees. No huddling in separate corners. Lively and cordial conversation gave hope that attendees were exploring a way forward. "Oh, we're all here, they're not, we're in, they're out, let's screw them" was *not* heard. Many of the participants I talked to realized it was probably a mistake to have a closed meeting; but for all that, it was the first time all of these people had got together in one room, and that must be rated as an accomplishment. Nothing was decided, nor did anyone force a decision; those who had feared and mistrusted each other met and were friendly; there was to me an air in the room of acceptance that everyone had to somehow get together on the DNSO -- all accomplishments. So there's an early report. Antony P.S. I didn't hear anything about an attempt to bar Mikki Barry, but in any case she was there. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 1999 2:01 PM > To: Antony Van Couvering > Cc: Dr Eberhard W Lisse; Michael Sondow; Kent Crispin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: icc comments in text > > > I am still in California, but Jay and Mikki are planning to attend > that closed meeting, in part to be sure that what happens there is > make public, or if it is "not for attribution" and "secret" to make > sure the public knows which and what happened. Bering present does > not in any way indicate any kind of endorsement by ORSC or its > pariticpants, in or out of that meeting. > > Inded, we understand that certain DNSO.ORG interests are trying to bar > Mikki Marry from attending. So, it will be interesting to see what > happens. And, I assure you that we wil not remain silent. > > Cheers...\Stef > > >From your message Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:44:56 -0500: > } > }Stef, > } > }While the sentiment is laudable, I do need to note for the > record that you > }are indeed participating in a closed meeting, today in Washington. > } > }Antony > } -- DOMAIN-POLICY administrivia should be sent to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe send a message with only one line "SIGNOFF DOMAIN-POLICY" For more help regarding Listserv commands send the one line "HELP" __________________________________________________ To receive the digest version instead, send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To SUBSCRIBE forward this message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNSUBSCRIBE, forward this message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Problems/suggestions regarding this list? Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___END____________________________________________
