If that's a fundamental requirement, then that seems like a reasonable approach. J2EE 
really seems to be focused on fully-packaged deployments with no reliance at the app 
level on the file system itself. Of course, you can only take that so far since the 
configuration for a log file will need some kind of path location specified.

Our approach was likely to be an "admin" EJB which we'd call to accomplish what you're 
using "configureAndWatch" for. The advantage of your approach is simplicity. The 
advantage of ours is portability across both containers and logging packages.

FWIW...

Donnie


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/07/02 01:50PM >>>
Donnie,

I'm in a situation where I really need to be able to modify the 
log4j.properties file after the application is deployed, which means 
that the file must be outside of the .ear file.  We're using the 
conifgureAndWatch() call to set this up and naming it something unique 
such as <app-name>-log4j.properties.  Then, it goes into the classpath 
for the app server (WebLogic 6.1).

Using this approach, when we run into problems after the application is 
deployed, we're able to modify the category in the properties file to 
set it to DEBUG, execute (or have the users execute) the steps that 
cause the problem, and get a nice output for offline perusal.  Of course 
we then set it back to WARN or ERROR as before.

Is there a better way to allow for run time configurations to take 
effect than this approach?  

Bobby


DONNIE HALE wrote:

>First, I'd highly recommend against log4j.properties existing in the system classpath 
>that WebLogic runs under. The only thing I've found that, for a typical application, 
>would go in WebLogic's system classpath is JDBC drivers. Everything else should go in 
>the .ear file.
>
>Second, our use of a "lib" directory within the .ear flie is just a convention we 
>chose, as is the use of an "etc" directory in the .ear file for property files. We 
>use the EJB manifest's Class-Path attribute to refer to those directories at the .ear 
>file level. My earlier message in this thread included an example Class-Path 
>attribute for our .ear file format.
>
>Donnie
>
>
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/07/02 01:12AM >>>
>>>>
>Hi,
>
>    We are also using the same architecture.But I have the following questions
>
>1) What if log4j.properties exists in the classpath ?Will log4j use the file inside 
>the EAR or the one in the classpath.How to resolve this ?
>2)Our Directory structure is
>
>    src
>       |
>     EJB-MODULES
>     META-INF
>            |
>            application.xml
>    WEB-MODULES
>
>Now where exactly should I place log4j.jar.I could not understand this from J2EE 
>blueprints or from your reply.Could you just elaborate on this "lib" folder in EAR.I 
>have been struggling with this for quite some time now.
>
>TIA,
>Mani
>
>
>
>DONNIE HALE wrote:
>
>>We don't do any programmatic startup stuff. It's all in our log4j.properties file.
>>
>>We do use NDCs. So we have a servlet filter which sets the NDC to a value prefixed 
>with "JSP" when the app is in the "web app space", and a dynamic proxy which sets the 
>NDC to a value prefixed with "EJB" when the app is in the EJB space.
>>
>>But as far as configuration goes, it's strictly in the .properties file.
>>
>>Hope that helps,
>>
>>Donnie
>>
>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/05/02 08:18PM >>>
>>>>>
>>Thanks Donnie and Ceki.  One more question - how do you set up log4j?
>>Do you use a WebLogic startup class (will tie you to an app server
>>vendor)? A stateless session bean that is loaded in the free pool when
>>the server starts up? Or other mechanism?
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