> To the bar (rt-click) I added an Application Menu Hmmm... not the most intuitive set of words -- to me -- to use for doing that. I don't want a menu. I want to launch a program with a single click on an icon. And, I would not have guessed "l-terminal". I did look through every thing that a click or right click would show. I tried the upper and lower task bars that were started automatically. I never saw a terminal of any sort or any place to add a free-form path to an executable. I did finally get a terminal when I instructed something in a menu to "show menu when screen is clicked." Suddenly, at the top of the list, was a terminal, and a nice one. But, that seemed a long way to get there. (Also, perhaps I have a different version somehow from you.)
My point was this: If the folks who made the environment didn't think a terminal was important enough to their target user to put it right up front and make it obvious and easy to use, then they probably did not design the system for me. > Would some kind soul wax lyrical for a moment to tell me why I would want > LOCAL_APPS rather than a stand alone machine acting as a fat client. Not sure what you mean by "stand alone acting as a fat client." I booted a nice machine here as a fat client once, just to try. Interesting, but it seemed too isolating. It might have made some of the admin easier, but that's about it, and some admin looked harder. Seemed to me we might as well just install an OS on the local machine or PXE boot it. Using localapps on these machines means that we can do some very graphically intensive things without having ethernet bandwidth be the bottleneck. We use GigE; can't afford 10GigE or fiber. For example, if I run one of our benchmarks as a client, it takes 10.2 s. If I run it as a localapp, it takes 2.8 s. We get the best of two worlds: enough local oomph for the serious visualization we frequently need (and maybe an occasional calculation), and it gives us enough shared compute power, right there at our fingertips, no logging in, no file transfer, no ssh tunnel, to crunch massive amounts of numbers when we need. This is a computational chemistry lab, by the way. We use even larger resources to generate all that data we need to analyze. Given how we work, it also isn't likely we all need the central resources at once. But, any one of us is likely to frequently, for a short while, need loads of power. To have the computers be clients of a central machine is also very good, in part, because we work as a group. We talk together and share information a lot. Being able to see each others' files, share easily, etc., know we're all using the same environment, is useful, as is being able to log in from multiple locations. We have long wanted to have the computers set up like this, so when I found LTSP, and showed that it works, we thought "oh, yeah!" Actually, I'm not convinced yet that the admin is easier. But, the folks who have used it so far like it. So do I. On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 9:25 PM, James Linder <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 10/12/2011, at 5:15 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Regarding LXDE: I decided to try it when I came in this morning. I >> like the look and feel of it, and the appearance customizations are >> good. It seems, indeed, lightweight and fast. If it is, indeed, >> stable, that is also good, but I'm not sure I can use it. However, >> after far more fiddling than should be necessary, I finally figured >> out how to start a terminal window without sifting through layers of >> menus. I do almost everything from a terminal window, and sometimes >> open dozens over the course of a day, so making that hard to do drives >> me nuts. I never did figure out how to add it to the task bar. In >> fact, it seems that one is limited, short of reconfiguring basic bits >> of the system, to a small set of pre-configured applets. > > [snip] > > I just tried it and indeed LXDE seems nice, fast, simple ... > I added (rt-click on desktop) a top menu bard > To the bar (rt-click) I added an Application Menu > I Edited that Added 'l-terminal' > > Bing top bar with terminal launcher. Total time 5 mins from apt-get install > lxde to my nice back on yellow terminal. I guess that's 50% of the way there > ... > > James > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Learn Windows Azure Live! Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 > Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for > developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and what it > provides. You can attend the event by watching it streamed LIVE online. > Learn more at http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-windowsazure > _____________________________________________________________________ > Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss > For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net -- :-) Lachele Lachele Foley CCRC/UGA Athens, GA USA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Learn Windows Azure Live! Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and what it provides. You can attend the event by watching it streamed LIVE online. Learn more at http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-windowsazure _____________________________________________________________________ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
