On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:33:26 -0500 "Jon Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:

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> Now let's apply the lessons of thirty years of 
> internet to
> music printing software. 

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>. What is needed is a
> protocol for printing staff or tabulation, and subsets that print
Italian or
> French tabulation - or full score or normal staff or C staff or
whatever.
> Finale and the rest should get together and agree on one - at the print
end.
> Then they can concentrate their bells and whistles into the input and
> playback end. No real conversion is required, a simple program to turn
each
> firm's output into a standard print format would suffice, and that
should be
> written by a consortium and offered free.

Jon:  

What you have described above has in fact been available for years. 
PostScript is a page description language that Adobe created  probably 20
years ago.  It has been used for transferring and transmitting printed
output of all kinds of programs (including music printing programs) among
and between all kinds of computing equipment from its earliest days.  The
later modification of it called "Encapsulated PostScript" allows for
easier import of the printed output of one program (including all kinds
of music) into many other programs.  The expansion of PostScript to
Portable Document Format (PDF) files has led to much more universal use
for the exchange of printed output of all kinds of programs, including
music in pitch notation and tablature. (Examples can be found at  
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/publications/index.html#retro
and at dozens of other places on the Internet.)  The standards for
creating PDF files are in the public domain, and free utilities are
available for converting the output of programs that do not already
include that capability.

That said, Jon, in spite of what you wrote, what you were probably
driving at was not the exchange of printed output but rather the exchange
of editable data.  In fact PostScript can function in that capacity as
well.  For more than a dozen years a program called FinalScore has been
available to convert the PostScript output of Finale to SCORE data file
format.  It is not free and not perfect, but it is widely used by
professionals in the music engraving business for correcting and editing
for publication material submitted as Finale documents.  

An attempt at a more universal data exchange standard for musical
information is something called Notation Interchange Format or NIF files.
 Unfortunately, although it has been around for probably most of a
decade, only a few programs actually support it, and they are relatively
rarely used -- does anyone on this list actually edit music with Lime? 

A newer standard for musical data exchange that looks like it may gain
wider acceptance is MusicXML. The organization pushing it is called
Recordare LLC.  See:
http://www.musicxml.org
It is still in the "Version 1" stages and does not support tablature well
yet, but there is clearly interest in extending it in that direction.

One should not forget Wayne's TAB format.  That was the earliest
widely-accepted format for entering tablature data for computer
processing and printing.  It is still in use for that purpose, and the
format is supported for data import and export in Fronimo and Django.

Regards,
Daniel Heiman

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> Best,
> Jon
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