Dear All Anthony Bailes LP recording of 'Pieces de luth'; EMI REFLEXE; IC 06330938, was my introduction to French baroque lute music. After that I was hooked. I have enjoyed his recent CDs (although I had not yet heard this, his most recent one), but regret that the recordings (in particular "Old Gautiers Nightinghall") do seem to have become a little more reverberant, which may take away somewhat from his recent excellent string choices on the Wengerer: Nick Baldock trebles, Dan Larson, Lyons Meanes, and Mimmo Peruffo loaded basses (although, I imagine that with this 76cm lute pure gut basses should also work well). AB seems to be one of the few pioneers still experimenting seriously in gut stringing. % Indeed, Anthony B. has always had an experimental atttitude to historic research. In his excellent article for Lute News 85, April 2008, he said, of the old Bologna lutes so sought after by the French, that Trichet tells us "French lute players were looking for instruments which were very resonant, and capable of sustain"; and he goes on to tell us of his experience of playing old lutes, "The last, and most important point is that notes on such instruments have more sustain coupled with a more gradual and even decay to the sound. This is particularly important as it can give the impression that a note sounds on longer than it actually does." In his Gaultier recordings, AB considers this so necessary to his interpretation of this music that he appears willing to sacrifice ideal string length (and possibly barring), adopting the 76cm historic Wenger lute, just for the greater sustain this vintage lute affords. % Jakob Lindberg seems to confirm AB's experience, claiming two almost contradictory characteristics for his Rauwolf: "this has exactly what I want. It has that clarity but also sustain, which is amazing". % It seems to be the function of this quality that AB is seeking to study with his recent recordings, at the expense of any characteristic specifically associated with more usual string lengths of around 68 cm (as correctly suggested by Martyn). Of course one might have preferred AB to have discovered another 69.5 cm Rauwolf, Greiff (or whatever), but no doubt he had to settle for the Wenger, or possibly chose it to isolate what this could bring, in spite of string length and barring differences. % The question then (implied by Martyn) is what AB may have gained or lost in choosing a lute which might seem more suitable for late German Baroque. AB mentions the elegeance and economy in the music, and it is possible that this also extended to the playing position and thus the length of the lute chosen, as seen in the rather nonchalant confortable elegant style of Charles Mouton: http://tinyurl.com/39r6xvd However, AB does have very long fingers, and seems to have very little problem in playing with such string lengths: http://tinyurl.com/77x475k Although the two do indeed look very different (and possibly, as Martyn says, the second might have been incongruous to a French audience of the time). % Soundwise, and this could be more important, we might have expected the 276 year old Wenger to have lost a little in the mid register (as compared to the 80 to 100 year old 68 cm lutes that the French were seeking out), and with perhaps more bass presence, due to the 76cm loaded basses: the French with their smaller lutes, may rather have been exploring the mid range, at the expense of these frequency extremes. Only listening to AB playing French music with this lute can confirm or infirm, whether this is indeed the case. Unfortunateley, MP3 and recording equipment may not be up to the job of discriminating this (can we be sure that we are not hearing the mics, the room acoustics rather than differences in lutes). But here is a recording of a modern 67cm Warwick Frei (415) strung in a not too different way, from the Wenger, with loaded basses and Nick Baldock Meanes and trebles. http://luthiste.com/downloads/Mouton.mp3 and here is an extract from Une Douceur violente, AB on the Wengere lute (375, loaded Basses, Larson Meanes, Baldock Trebles): Seventeenth-century French lute music [1]http://www.ramee.org/extraitsramee/1104/1104-01.mp3 % Personally, trying only to concentrate on the tonal differences, and abstracting from player's style, as well as recording level and 415/370 pitch (an almost impossible task?) I enjoy both, and I do hear a great deal of "presence" in the case of the old lute (with no obvious mid lack), but with exactly the slightly veiled (slightly nasal?) quality, which AB claims obliges him to play well back near the bridge with old lutes; this is my reaction, but I am not a musicologist, specialist in french baroque music. Just to compare, here is the 69cm Rauwolf (with some gimped basses and some first generation loaded) but playing Weiss: http://www.musicamano.com/music/weiss.mp3 I do find the Rauwolf more "agile" (which might be important for the French repertoire) and a little less veiled and nasal; and this could indeed be something to do with the difference of string length, or just relating to the recording differences. % Finally an extract from "Old Gautiers Nightinghall" with AB playing on a modern 12c lute, by Paul Thomson (stringing?): http://www.ramee.org/extraitsramee/0707/0707_01.MP3 The sound to me, here, is more bright (due to the pitch?), but with less depth; however, this is not the same tuning (or stringing), and the recording is more reverberant. $ In conclusion, Martyn is right, I don't think we should advocate performing French lute music with non-j-barred, 76cm lutes, and I understand his "mise en garde" to that effect (would any one, including AB, order the Wengerer model from their lutemaker for the French repertoire? I would doubt it; while I for one did hesitate about ordering a 69cm Rauwolf, before going for a 70cm Warwick); but I have enjoyed the sound of the short extract from Une Douceur violente, in spite of any doubts I might have had. That is of course just a personal reaction from a non specialist, addicted to AB's old LP. Regards Anthony ________________________________ De : Edward Martin <[2]e...@gamutstrings.com> A : [3]baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Envoye le : Vendredi 16 mars 2012 3h50 Objet : [BAROQUE-LUTE] Ne Anthony Bailes CD Dear Ones, For those on the list who enjoy well played 11-course French baroque lute, there is a new release by Abthony Bailes, on the Ramee label. it is entitled, 'Une Douceur violente", and it contains works of Mouton and Gallot. He recorded this program on his authentic lute by Georgi Ferdinand Wenger, Augsburg, 1722. The catalog number is RAM 1104, and it is available in the USA, in usual outlets. This is an announcement, not a review. The instrument is a large one, and the pitch is consequently quite low, at a70, in essence making it in a b-minor tuning. Beautiful sound and playing, highly recommended. ed Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: [4]e...@gamutstrings.com voice: (218) 728-1202 [5]http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id60298871&ref=name [6]http://www.myspace.com/edslute [7]http://magnatune.com/artists/edward_martin To get on or off this list see list information at [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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