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Monica ----- Original Message ----- From: [1]WALSH STUART To: [2]Monica Hall Cc: [3]Lutelist Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Chitarrone Other instruments than lutes have 'lute-shaped' bodies... Stuart On 17 October 2012 20:29, Monica Hall <[4]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: Well - what is the difference between a lute and a gittern/mandore. When is a lute not a lute? Chitarrone as I understand it is a large member of the lute family i.e. it has a lute shaped body. It depends what you mean by separate traditions....... Monica...getting more confused by the minute. Diego, unfortunately I cannot read Italian. Are you in agreement with Meucci? Monica, the only things I know about Meucci's article are from you. As I understand it, Meucci isn't saying that the chitarrone is a large lute. The lute has its own, separate, traditions. The chitarrone (he is saying, I think) is a large (massive!) gittern (or gittern/mandore). Stuart On 17 October 2012 18:34, Diego Cantalupi <[1][5]tio...@gmail.com> wrote: If you can read Italian, you can find my dissertation about Chitarrone here: [2][6]http://www.diegocantalupi.it/tesi.pdf The first chapter is about ethimology. Diego > To get on or off this list see list information at [3][7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[8]tio...@gmail.com 2. [9]http://www.diegocantalupi.it/tesi.pdf 3. [10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com 2. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 5. mailto:tio...@gmail.com 6. http://www.diegocantalupi.it/tesi.pdf 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 8. mailto:tio...@gmail.com 9. http://www.diegocantalupi.it/tesi.pdf 10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html