Until musical instruments can mate & propagate on their own, the biological systems for classification become a strained analogy that must, at some point, break down. I'm still waiting for my 8 course tenor lute and my 13 course Baroque lute to get together some night and bless our happy household with a baby 10 course lute some fine morning.

(And the lauto? And what about the flat-backed Angelique by Gibson?)

-This could spiral out of control, like Moondog's song about human rights. "Enough about human rights! What about whale rights? What about worm rights? What about germ rights?" etc, etc.

On 10/18/2012 7:32 AM, Braig, Eugene wrote:
I actually believe those who think about such stuff are usually operating under 
"some form of generally acceptable classification system for 'lutes'," either 
as written in some source or another or devised in their own heads based upon discussions 
like these.  Organology certainly hasn't shied from lute kin.

It's the specific notion of a biological-style key that I think would likely 
prove more cumbersome than practical if including substantial detail.  I 
suspect most who want to differentiate colascione from mandora, e.g., probably 
already have a decent sense of how to do so.  I think a key could be 
constructed--I don't know, maybe already has been--but I suspect a key in this 
domain would be most useful if very simplified and designed with the generally 
uninitiated in mind.  Even among field biologists, once you know how to 
identify whatever you happen to be observing, you don't bother using keys any 
longer.

Best,
Eugene

-----Original Message-----
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Martyn Hodgson
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:57 AM
To: lute mailing list list; Braig, Eugene
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Chitarrone


    Dear Eugene,

    I agree that to produce some form of generally acceptable
    classification system for 'lutes' would be difficult and even then
    prone to error/interpretations - but surely we shouldn't not try? I
    presume, for example, Mendel's inheritance findings have been revised
    since his day but his contribution shouldn't be ignored. And these
    early attempts surely allowed further advances in the field: so the
    same for present day organological research.

    Martyn
    --- On Wed, 17/10/12, Braig, Eugene <brai...@osu.edu> wrote:

      From: Braig, Eugene <brai...@osu.edu>
      Subject: [LUTE] Re: Chitarrone
      To: "lute mailing list list" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
      Date: Wednesday, 17 October, 2012, 22:15

    I don't think a dichotomous key would work.  As alluded, one of the
    neat features of biological inheritance is that all things come from
    similar parental things.  Not so when addressing the capricious whims
    of human creativity.  One of my favorite examples is mandolins, with
    many structurally different things being tuned identically and many
    functionally different things with similar construction carrying the
    name.  This case is not unique.
    General "taxonomy" of musical instruments has been around for a great
    long time (as "organology"), there are even whole scholarly societies
    committed to it (e.g., [1]http://www.galpinsociety.org/).  However,
    such systems require a great many more judgment calls by their
    developers than biological systematics.
    Best,
    Eugenel









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