Dear Martyn, we can discuss about which music they played on this lute shaped guitar and which music was played on the figure-eight small renaissance guitar but not about its name in Italy during the XVIIth century. When the spanish 5 course guitar became well known in Italy there was no more reason to call it chitarra italiana, and it was simply called chitarrino or sometimes 5 course mandola ( which is quite confusing because mandola was mainly used to call the 5 course baroque mandolino) but mandore or mandora was never used in Italy.
Have a look at Evaristo Baschenis' inventory (1677) - who painted this instrument 127 among 128 of his paintings - where it is called chitarrino to distinguish it from the other 2 spanish guitars. regards, Davide PS: you could also have a look at what I wrote about guitar's history in books published by Il Salabue (The Guitar: four centuries of masterpieces 2008 and Passioni di un collezionista, dai liuti ai violini 2011(italian/ english) and in my recent new book on the lute history (Il Liuto L'Epos, Palermo 2012). Il giorno 29/gen/2013, alle ore 10:45, Martyn Hodgson ha scritto: > > Thank you Bill. Interesting - but what is it! Or, rather more to the > point, what did its player call it? > > regards > > Martyn > > PS Alexander Batov has come up with some pretty convincing pics for > figure 8 Italian 4 course guitars. > --- On Tue, 29/1/13, William Samson <willsam...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > From: William Samson <willsam...@yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: [LUTE] Bad url for 4c guitar in Italy etc > To: "Lute List" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Date: Tuesday, 29 January, 2013, 9:36 > > Sorry - The permissions seem to have gone haywire for the URL I > gave. > This one should work . . . > [1][1]http://sdrv.ms/WcD8fZ > Good luck! > Bill > -- > References > 1. [2]http://sdrv.ms/WcD8fZ > To get on or off this list see list information at > [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > > References > > 1. http://sdrv.ms/WcD8fZ > 2. http://sdrv.ms/WcD8fZ > 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >
