Tom First a return question: what is you string material, brand, diameters ('numbers' for some brands)/tenison and last but certainly not least, age? All these factors play a role. If strings are old, replace and you'll feel better. If strings are gut, you might have a tough time adjusting. If strings are metalwounds and plastics (nylon or otherwise), ditch the octaves on courses 5 and 6 and you'll be fine. David
******************************* David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl ******************************* On 10 October 2013 08:44, Tom <[3]tgw...@gmail.com> wrote: I posted this to the lutening group but thought it wouldn't hurt to try here, also. Hello everyone, I have what is probably a newbie question. I am unable to tune the 5th, 6th, and to a lesser degree the 7th and 8th courses to my satisfaction. When tuned so that the octaves have no beats between the two strings, the strings are out of tune when fretted. The octave course is invariably sharp, or at least sharp enough to drive me batty (although there are those who would argue that it's a drive...more like a putt). My ears are pretty good to within 5 cents of a tone. I've tried lowering the fundamental by a few cents, but it doesn't seem to help until the the two strings of a course are out of tune when open. Help!!! (please) -- Sincerely, Tom -- To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 3. mailto:tgw...@gmail.com 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html