Sidenote: On Windows, the free GIRDAC system does a wonderful job of
turning anything you can print into a PDF file.
[1]http://www.girdac.com/
They have converters you can pay for with more features, but the
straight-on converter acts like a printer, and allows you to edit Meta
information before saving.
ray
On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 6:40 AM, Martyn Hodgson
<[2]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
David,
I can, of course, and indeed usually do use just a figured bass
in many
works but, as said earlier, for some very large pieces I ideally
like
to have at least a couple of the principal upper lines as well
(not of
course always the same lines throughout the work) especially if
the
work has a number of choirs (eg Biber's Missa Salisburgensis).
Keyboard
continuo players can, and generally do, naturally use a fill
score and
turn with their right hand - theorbo players can't. Hence the
issue.
Martyn
____________________________________________________________
______
From: David van Ooijen <[3]davidvanooi...@gmail.com>
To:
Cc: "[4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016, 10:01
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Creating a short score from pdf full score
If it's Biber, get the cello/bass part and figure it.
*******************************
David van Ooijen
[1][1][6]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
[2][7]www.davidvanooijen.nl
*******************************
On 6 October 2016 at 10:52, MJ Hodgson
<[3][2][8]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
Thanks to all for thheir kind help. It seems there is no
easy
answer
but that MUSESCORE2 might be suitable - but only if the
original
was
created digitally in the first place - also other issues.
Some
of
the
scores I'm looking at currently are the Biber mass
settings in
the old
(but still quite good) editions in the series [1]DenkmÃ
¤ler
der
Tonkunst
in Ãsterreich
I guess from what is being said that these wouldn't work
with
MUSESCORE
- but I'll certainly give it a whirl!
Many thanks
Martyn
______________________________
______________________________
______
From: AJN <[4][3][9]arthurjn...@verizon.net>
Sent: 05 October 2016 19:15
To: [5][4][10]r...@mh-freiburg.de;
[6][5][11]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: [7][6][12]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk;
[8][7][13]bruno.l...@gmail.com;
[9][8][14]tiorbin...@gmail.com;
[10][9][15]davidvanooi...@gmail.com;
[11][10][16]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu;
[12][11][17]arthurjn...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Creating a short score from pdf full
score
I think it was MuseScore that the Italian publisher used
from
my
*.PDF
input file. It worked very well. And was probably
very easy.
On 10/05/16, Ralf Mattes<[2][13][12][18]rm@mh-
freiburg.de> wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 05. Oktober 2016 16:54 CEST, Martyn Hodgson
<[3][14][13][19]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> schrieb:
> Thank you Arthur.
> In fact chatting to an IT person earlier today they
suggested
GIMP
> which seems to be much used for art work etc but they
thought
might
> also be useful to move blocks of musical systems around.
I've
> downloaded it (it's free!) but the operation of the
software
isn't
> obvious so I'll have to find precious time to understand
it -
unless
my
> son (now a Seattle resident) can explain it all to me when
I
next
chat
> with him...
Please, don't use Gimp. It's a marvelous program, but not
meant
for
that kind
of job (and your "IT-person" should know ...) Gimp works on
raster
images
only and will convert a pdf to a (set of) raster images. At
that
point
you work with
pixel data which will most likely look rather disapointing
when
printed
at
a different resolution.
> Incidentally, Finale does have a free 'Notepad' version
but
this
seems
> very limited and unable (I think) to do the sort of cut
and
paste I
had
> in mind.
Before you investigate further in Finale (a piece of crap
IMHO)
you
might
want to have a look at MuseScore
([4][15][14][20]https://musescore.org) -
that'll
probably
give you more than you ever need, and the latest versions
have
pretty
good
support for lute tab.
> Previously I've simply run off a photocopy and by using
some
> large paper shears and glue made a physical paste up - but
the
160+
> pages of the mass rather put me off this traditional
technique
-
hence
> the search for a digital alternative.
The digital version of that would be to import our pdf into
a
vector
drawing
program (Adobe Illustrator, Inkscape etc.) but the quality
of
that
import
depends on the program that generated the pdf.
Unfortunately, the only convincing path to solve your
problem
is
to use
the
same program as the original typesetter (if you can get the
original
digital version,
NO the pdf). Otherwise, a good pair of scissors IS an
astonishingly
effective tool :-)
Cheers, Ralf Mattes
> regards
> Martyn
>
To get on or off this list see list information at
[5][16][15][21]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/
index.html
--
References
1. [17][16][22]http://imslp.org/wiki/DenkmÃ
¤ler_der_Tonkunst_in_
Ãsterreich
2. mailto:[18][17][23]r...@mh-freiburg.de
3. mailto:[19][18][24]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
4. [20][19][25]https://musescore.org/
5. [21][20][26]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/
--
References
1. mailto:[21][27]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
2. [22][28]http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
3. mailto:[23][29]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk
4. mailto:[24][30]arthurjn...@verizon.net
5. mailto:[25][31]r...@mh-freiburg.de
6. mailto:[26][32]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
7. mailto:[27][33]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk
8. mailto:[28][34]bruno.l...@gmail.com
9. mailto:[29][35]tiorbin...@gmail.com
10. mailto:[30][36]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
11. mailto:[31][37]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
12. mailto:[32][38]arthurjn...@verizon.net
13. mailto:[33][39]r...@mh-freiburg.de
14. mailto:[34][40]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
15. [35][41]https://musescore.org/
16. [36][42]http://www.cs.dartmouth.
edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
17. [37][43]http://imslp.org/wiki/Denkmà ¤ler_der_Tonkunst_in_
Ãsterreich
18. mailto:[38][44]r...@mh-freiburg.de
19. mailto:[39][45]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
20. [40][46]https://musescore.org/
21. [41][47]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/
--
References
1. mailto:[48]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
2. mailto:[49]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk
3. mailto:[50]arthurjn...@verizon.net
4. mailto:[51]r...@mh-freiburg.de
5. mailto:[52]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
6. mailto:[53]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk
7. mailto:[54]bruno.l...@gmail.com
8. mailto:[55]tiorbin...@gmail.com
9. mailto:[56]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
10. mailto:[57]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
11. mailto:[58]arthurjn...@verizon.net
12. mailto:[59]r...@mh-freiburg.de
13. mailto:[60]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
14. [61]https://musescore.org/
15. [62]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
16. [63]http://imslp.org/wiki/Denkmà ¤ler_der_Tonkunst_in_
17. mailto:[64]r...@mh-freiburg.de
18. mailto:[65]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
19. [66]https://musescore.org/
20. [67]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/
21. mailto:[68]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
22. [69]http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
23. mailto:[70]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk
24. mailto:[71]arthurjn...@verizon.net
25. mailto:[72]r...@mh-freiburg.de
26. mailto:[73]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
27. mailto:[74]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk
28. mailto:[75]bruno.l...@gmail.com
29. mailto:[76]tiorbin...@gmail.com
30. mailto:[77]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
31. mailto:[78]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
32. mailto:[79]arthurjn...@verizon.net
33. mailto:[80]r...@mh-freiburg.de
34. mailto:[81]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
35. [82]https://musescore.org/
36. [83]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
37. [84]http://imslp.org/wiki/Denkmäler_der_Tonkunst_in_
Ãsterreich
38. mailto:[85]r...@mh-freiburg.de
39. mailto:[86]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
40. [87]https://musescore.org/
41. [88]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/
--
References
1. http://www.girdac.com/
2. mailto:hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
3. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com
4. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
5. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
6. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com
7. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
8. mailto:mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk
9. mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net
10. mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de
11. mailto:hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
12. mailto:mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk
13. mailto:bruno.l...@gmail.com
14. mailto:tiorbin...@gmail.com
15. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com
16. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
17. mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net
18. mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de
19. mailto:hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
20. https://musescore.org/
21. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
22. http://imslp.org/wiki/DenkmÃ
23. mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de
24. mailto:hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
25. https://musescore.org/
26. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/
27. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com
28. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
29. mailto:mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk
30. mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net
31. mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de
32. mailto:hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
33. mailto:mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk
34. mailto:bruno.l...@gmail.com
35. mailto:tiorbin...@gmail.com
36. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com
37. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
38. mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net
39. mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de
40. mailto:hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
41. https://musescore.org/
42. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
43. http://imslp.org/wiki/DenkmÃ
44. mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de
45. mailto:hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
46. https://musescore.org/
47. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/
48. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com
49. mailto:mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk
50. mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net
51. mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de
52. mailto:hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
53. mailto:mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk
54. mailto:bruno.l...@gmail.com
55. mailto:tiorbin...@gmail.com
56. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com
57. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
58. mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net
59. mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de
60. mailto:hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
61. https://musescore.org/
62. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
63. http://imslp.org/wiki/DenkmÃ
64. mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de
65. mailto:hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
66. https://musescore.org/
67. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/
68. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com
69. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
70. mailto:mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk
71. mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net
72. mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de
73. mailto:hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
74. mailto:mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk
75. mailto:bruno.l...@gmail.com
76. mailto:tiorbin...@gmail.com
77. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com
78. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
79. mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net
80. mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de
81. mailto:hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
82. https://musescore.org/
83. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
84. http://imslp.org/wiki/Denkmäler_der_Tonkunst_in_Ãsterreich
85. mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de
86. mailto:hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
87. https://musescore.org/
88. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/
