Briefly - the cumbee is an African rather than a Mexican popular dance - and surprise, surprise - there were a lot of Africans in Spain during the 16th and 18th centuries. North African is just a short distance across the Mediterranean from Spain. There are examples of the cumbee in other Spanish sources which have nothing to do with the New World. What Russell has to say on the subject is not very helpful as he thought it was Mexican or rather that Spaniards got it from African slaves in Mexico and brought it back to Spain. Pity he didn't look at an atlas. Monica
----Original Message---- From: lucashar...@live.ca Date: 26/05/2017 19:47 To: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu"<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: [LUTE] Cumbées Hello, friends, Can anybody give me any background about the âCumbéesâ variations from Santiago de Murciaâs SaldÃvar Codex? Is it related at all to the popular dance genre in Colombia called âcumbiaâ? Does anyone have Craig Russellâs book on de Murcia and could possibly look up for me what he says about the Cumbé? If itâs indeed a West African genre, how would de Murcia have heard it if, as is now thought, he didnât travel to the New World and hear it as brought there by slave populations? Should we presume that Africans would have brought those sounds to Iberia as well? Many thanks! * Lucas Harris -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html