Very interesting indeed. Among the very first users of carbon strings
is Toyohiko Satoh, and the original company was called I think Seagar,
or something like that. They are a Japanese manufacturer of fishing
line. So, all who use carbon are using fishing line.
ed
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Tristan von Neumann
<[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:
Hi George!
Thanks for sharing your experience! I was exactly looking for that
answer, but no one had attempted full stringing on a Renaissance
lute and I forgot.
What would you use for a 62cm Renaissance Lute 7c on G=415 or 432
Hz?
I'd be interested in a list and manufacturers, preferably those
available in Europe.
I thought monofilaments were thinner, the chanterelle was like .33mm
from Pyramid Strings. That could be a little hard on the holes.
I also don't want to damage my lute by overstringing it...
Thanks for the hint!
Am 29.08.2017 um 14:25 schrieb George Arndt:
Hello fellow lute players:
I have been using salt water monofilament fishing line on my lutes
for
the past three years with satisfactory results. The only exception
being the 7th course on Renaissance lutes and the diapasons on my
Baroque lute that are wound with metal. I matched the diameter and
length of the original strings with fishing line. If a string was
easily broken I use a larger diameter to replace it. If peg
friction
was a inadequate, I decrease string diameter and replace that
string.
If a string slapped the fingerboard I used a larger diameter when
I replace it. One nice advantage is mono-filament strings may be
pigmented and this helped me as I was learning to play. After three
years I am satisfied with the result. It cost $120 for a lifetime
supply of strings for my seven lutes.
Thanks for the opportunity to add my comments.
George
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of Matthew Daillie <[4]dail...@club-internet.fr>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 3:01 AM
To: Dan Winheld
Cc: lutelist Net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: KF vs. new Aquila bass strings
Unfortunately there have been serious issues with the new loaded
nylgut
strings.
Availability has been erratic ( I believe that there have only been
two
batches so far, the second stiffer than the first) with promises of
delivery of certain references delayed by several months.
Some gauges break without warning between the nut and the peg,
perhaps
due to the fact that the surface is slightly rough and does not
fare
well on the passage in the grove over the nut.
Strings are often false, especially when being stopped going up the
fingerboard but also when used as diapasons; their inherent
stretchiness gives them great amplitude so when they are plucked
they
can not only hit against the fingerboard but also against the
string of
a neighbouring course!
I am sorry to be so negative regarding these strings. I had very
high
hopes and if Mimmo manages to get the formula right and overcome
production issues, then they will probably become a lot of players'
number one choice but we are certainly not there yet. Loaded nylgut
strings are not inexpensive and it is frustrating to spend
considerable
sums of money before being forced to conclude that they are still
at
the experimental stage and that we are acting as guinea pigs.
I use PVF strings on the 5th courses of renaissance lutes and as
diapasons on theorbos. They work well and are incredibly long
lasting.
I have seen and heard them used very successfully on 6th, 7th and
8th
courses of renaissance lutes. Tying them around the bridge is
tricky
(some luthiers such as Martin Shepherd suggest thinning the ends).
I
have no experience of using them on baroque lutes but I would have
thought that the diameters for the lower courses would have been
prohibitive.
Best,
Matthew
> On Aug 29, 2017, at 1:26, Dan Winheld <[5]dwinh...@lmi.net>
wrote:
>
> A question for those of you who have tried, used, and been
satisfied
with the Savarez KF (originally for harp) bass strings- the gut
like
one starting at .90 or .95 mm thickness (losing memory here) and
have
also tried Mimmo Peruffo's new basses- How do they compare? I am
mostly
quite happy with the Savarez KF- VERY satisfied with the long
single
basses on my archlute- but on my 10 course & 13 course bass rider
style Baroque lute the very lowest courses could use a little help;
but
if I change them I would want to go all the way to the 6th course.
>
> One draw back to the KF is the stiffness, they can be very
annoying
to wrestle through and around the bridge holes, worse as they get
thicker. I have heard that Peruffo's strings were actually too
flexible
at first and that he had to "dial them back" a bit so that they
would
not fret flat going up the fingerboard. Very counter intuitive to
me
after years of thick basses fretting sharp!
>
> Thanks for any information. Dan
>
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