I've performed it (Old Bones by Nico Muhly) and enjoyed doing so, while
it may not be to everyone's taste I think it's a good example of
serious composers writing thoughtfully for the instrument.
Toby
On 22 Dec 2017 19:05, "Peter Martin" <[1]peter.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think you've nailed it, Christopher.
By the way, has *anyone* else heard the Nico Muhly piece?
Peter
On Friday, 22 December 2017, Christopher Wilke
<[1][2]chriswi...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
Newer music for the lute is a tough sell because it subverts
audience expectations. I don't think it's too much of an
assumption
to say that most lute fans (both listeners and players) became
interested in the instrument because they were attracted to
early
music first. Therefore, in this mindset, the lute is "for"
early
music and anything else introduces disconcerting cognitive
dissonance. Some folks are genuinely offended that anyone would
play
something other than old European music on a lute. That's a
significant enough segment of the already tiny lute audience
that
one risks alienating. That's a large disincentive to spend the
time
learning modern pieces, even for those interested in expanding
the
repertoire. (Personally, I've never seen it this way at all. To
me,
anything that sounds good on the instrument is fair game,
regardless
of style or period.)
It's interesting that the harpsichord has not had this problem.
There is a sizeable body of contemporary music for solo
harpsichord
as well as in ensemble compositions written by heavy weight
composers. The late Elizabeth Chojnacka made virtually her
entire
career out of performing contemporary harpsichord music. (She
passed
away this past May.)
Chris
Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A.
Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
[2][3]www.christopherwilke.com
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On Fri, 12/22/17, Tristan von Neumann
<[3][4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>
wrote:
Subject: [LUTE] Re: New music
To: "lutelist Net" <[4][5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Date: Friday, December 22, 2017, 9:32 AM
Not exactly "new", but modern:
Charles Tournemire requests a lute in
his 8th Symphony (1924) :)
Not a piece you can play with your
friends though, except if you are
friends with a Philharmonic
Orchestra...
Am 22.12.2017 um 12:23 schrieb Jim
Dunn:
> As the lute becomes
slowly more popular, I think we'll see more
> contemporary lute
music popping up equally slowly (I think lutes in
> their various guises
have a very interesting tonality and set of
> limitations to
compose for, I'm enjoying making my own ham-fisted
> efforts at
least...)
> Meanwhile, not
necessarily all 'new' material, but I've been enjoying
> Peter Sà ¶derberg's
three contemporary lute records: 20th century stuff
> like Cage, Tenney,
Stockhausen etc, as well as recordings of more
> recent things
written specifically for lute. The non-lute material he
> has selected comes
over very well in my opinion.
> Here's to more!
>
> On 22 Dec 2017,
00:21 +0000, Eric Hansen <[5][6]librarylutepla...@gmail.com>,
> wrote:
>
> Hartt School
composer David Macbride composes solo lute music for
> me, a
> total of 13
pieces as of this writing. I played one of them at the
> Lute Society
Seminar in Cleveland a few years ago, it's up on
> YouTube.
> He and I have
begun to record the pieces, a few at a time.
> Best to all,
> Eric
> On Thu, Dec
21, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Jacob Johnson
> <[1][6][7]tmrguitar...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I don't think
that's entirely accurate. Ronn McFarlane plays his
> own
> compositions,
Jakob Lindberg performs the Britten Nocturnal (I
> know,
> it's not that
new, and it's not really for lute, but IMO it kinda
> counts),
Chris Wilke recorded a whole cd of Roman Turovsky's new
> works
> for baroque
lute, I saw Elizabeth Kenny perform TWO recent
> theorbo
> commissions
at the LuteFestWest, and there's certainly more
> examples I
> just can't
think of at the moment.
> As soon as I
can afford to do so, I intend to commission some
> works for
> myself to
play.
> Jacob
Johnson
>
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>
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> On Thu, Dec
21, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Christopher Stetson
> <[2][4][8][9]christophertstet...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello all.
> An
interesting question, Peter, thanks for bringing it up.
> To
> answer
> honestly and
personally, I'm not especially interested in new
> music,
> per se, for
any of the instruments I play (mainly lute, guitar,
> mandolin, but
some others too). I couldn't really say why,
> except
> that the
music I've looked at from the last 30 years tends, and
> I
> mean
> tends, to be
difficult and not especially tuneful to my ear.
> There
> are
exceptions, of course, and I play some of those, though
> mostly on
> guitar. I'm
not a professional, so I tend to be fairly
> conservstive
> in the music
I choose to spend time seeking out and playing.
> I
> also
> don't play
many of the old compositions that fit the above
> criteria.
> I fully
realize. however, that one person's difficult is
> another
> person's
interesting, and I'm really glad that people are
> writing
> new
> music for
lute.
> Best to all,
and keep playing,
> Chris.
> On Thu, Dec
21, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Peter Martin
>
<[1][3][5][9][10]peter.l...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I recently
bought a Wigmore Hall Live CD of a 2013 concert
> by
> countertenor
Iestyn Davies and lutenist Thomas Dunford.
> It
> included
> the world
premiere performance of a substantial piece by
> Nico
> Muhly
> called Old
Bones. Up to now, I'd never heard of it,
> which
> surprised
> me because
Muhly is a very successful young American
> composer.
> His
> new opera
Marnie has just premiered at English National
> Opera,
> and his
> previous
opera Two Boys was given at ENO and at the Met in
> New
> York.
> The score of
Old Bones is available from Music Sales.
> Yet I
> can't see
> that the lute
world has paid the slightest attention to it.
> Which sets me
wondering, not about Muhly as such, but about
> new
> music
> generally.
With the honourable exception of Jacob
> Heringman,
> scarcely
> anyone plays
it. Any thoughts on why this is? Are
> we
> simply
> not
> interested in
new music?
> Peter
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