My attitude is to decide what makes most sense, musically and rhythmically speaking... They did not use, as we do now, first and second repeats. But an upbeat is always an upbeat and must be played accordingly with sometimes a good dose of diplomatic editing to make things fit properly ;-)! Best wishes to all! Jean-Marie
> Le 6 janv. 2019 à 11:23, Joachim Lüdtke <jo.lued...@t-online.de> a écrit : > > Dear Ed > > the Minkoff facsimile comes with an introduction (in English as well as in > French) by Claude Chauvel. He cites and translates Galilei's adress to the > readers. No help with your question, though ... > > Uwe Wolf has written in his PhD thesis (published 1992) something to the > effect that the repeat sign would mean to leave out in the repeat what makes > the first measure of the first part complete, but then his example is music > where this first measure begins with pauses, not with notes as in the piece > in question here. Personally, I do more or less so: play the half note as a > quarter note, insert a 'breath' and go on with notes two and three of the > first measure. I am not aware of any contemporary instructions or > explanations which would be of help here, but that does not mean that there > aren't any ... > > Best > > Joachim > > -----Original-Nachricht----- > Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Il primo libro d'intavolatura di liuto Galilei repeat bars > Datum: 2019-01-05T12:28:00+0100 > Von: "Ed Durbrow" <edurb...@gmail.com> > An: "Matthew Daillie" <dail...@club-internet.fr>, "lute list" > <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > > What you type more or less aligns with the way I interpret it, if I > understand you correctly. However, some well known players do not interpret > it so. For example, in the first C maj volt, they hold the half note at the > repeat mark bar for three beats and then start over. I and you, I think, > would hold it for two beats and insert the last beat of measure one on the > repeat. I was wondering if they know something we don’t, if Galilei mentions > anything (my original question), if (there must be) other examples of similar > structures and if any contemporary explains what to do. > > Again if anybody can point me to an English translation, it would be fun to > read even though there may not be any information on repeats. > >> On Dec 25, 2018, at 11:15 PM, Matthew Daillie <dail...@club-internet.fr> >> wrote: >> >> From what I've seen it's pretty straightforward, you just need to replace >> the upbeat at the end of the bar with the repeat sign with the anacrusis of >> the first bar. Sometimes the note values of the anacrusis are not the same >> but this doesn't really matter as one is making a pause before starting the >> piece again from the beginning. The values of the last beat of the repeat >> bars work fine when playing straight through the second time round. >> Despite Galilei's claims to the contrary, there are a few printers mistakes >> too and there is doubtlessly an element of improvisation in the way the >> introductory anacruses should be played anyway (as perhaps indicated, for >> example, by the occasional long note values). >> Best, >> Matthew >> >> >> >>> On Dec 25, 2018, at 12:51, Joachim Lüdtke <jo.lued...@t-online.de> wrote: >>> >>> that is what I found in the introduction too, and still you have to cope >>> with the Situation Ed describes. I tend to your No 2, Ed! >> >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > >
