My suspicion would be that the nails Sor heard were just not prepared well.
A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Classical Guitarist/Lutenist > On May 8, 2019, at 9:28 PM, Antonio Corona <abcor...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: > > Sor's words: > Never in my life have I heard a guitarist whose playing was > supportable, if he played with the nails. The nails can produce but > very few gradations in the quality of the sound: the piano passages can > never be singing, nor the fortes sufficiently full. Their performance > is, to mine, what the harpsichord was in comparison to the > pianoforteâthe piano passages were always jingling, and, in the fortes, > the noise of the keys predominated over the sound of the wires. It is > necessary that the performance of Mr. Aguado should have so many > excellent qualities as it possesses, to excuse his employment of the > nails ; and he himself would have condemned the use of them if he had > not attained such a degree of agility, nor found himself beyond the > time of life in which we are able to contend against the bend of the > fingers acquired by a long habitude. > Best wishes, > Antonio > __________________________________________________________________ > > From: George Torres <torr...@lafayette.edu> > To: Roman Turovsky <r.turov...@gmail.com> > Cc: magnus andersson <maan7...@yahoo.com>; Martyn Hodgson > <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>; Lute List <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; Monica > Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> > Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2019, 11:45 > Subject: [LUTE] Re: De Visee > Sor reportedly used a nail on his thumb, for special effect, after > meeting Aguado, who did play with nails. >> On May 8, 2019, at 10:00 AM, Roman Turovsky <[1]r.turov...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Fernando Sor. >> RT >> >> >> On 5/8/2019 9:35 AM, magnus andersson wrote: >>> Do we have any evidence of any historical guitar or theorbo > player who >>> explicitly played without fingernails? >>> >>> [1]Skickat frÃÆà ¥n Yahoo Mail fÃÆà ¶r iPhone >>> >>> Den onsdag, maj 8, 2019, 3:20 em, skrev Martyn Hodgson >>> <[2]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu>: >>> >>> Hear! hear!. >>> >>> And just because some theorbo players used nails by no means > that De >>> >>> Visee did. This is, of course, how modern myths > start................ >>> >>> Martyn >>> >>> On Wednesday, 8 May 2019, 11:09:58 BST, Monica Hall >>> >>> <[2][3]mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Corbetta didn't have to pay his musicians out of his own pocket > - >>> >>> that's just another myth. The relevant source states that >>> >>> Every foreign musician who performed at court in Turin was > given 500 >>> >>> Thlr. and Madame Royale wished to show her generosity by not >>> >>> withholding anything [from Signor Corbetta]. >>> >>> Madame Royale was the mother of Victor Amadeus, the ruler of > Savoy at >>> >>> the time when Corbetta visited the town to perform. >>> >>> We don't actually know whether De Visee played with his nails. >>> >>> Monica >>> >>>> On 07 May 2019 at 22:20 magnus andersson >>> >>> <[1][3][4]maan7...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Dear collective wisdom, >>> >>>> From what I have understood, it seems like manicure has > been >>> >>> around >>> >>>> since at least 3200 BC, so I assume players like > Piccinini, >>> >>> Corbetta >>> >>>> (who we know had >>> >>>> to cancel one of his concerts due to a broken nail- and > still >>> pay >>> >>> his >>> >>>> fellow musicians from his own pocket!) and perhaps de > VisÃÆ Ã ©e >>> had >>> >>> found >>> >>>> a way for them to get it to work without shredding and > tearing >>> >>> their >>> >>>> strings apart constantly, and - to quote Piccinini: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> "the one, and very important [thing] is to play neatly, > and >>> >>> cleanly; In >>> >>>> the manner that all small touches of the string may be > schietto, >>> >>> like >>> >>>> pearl[s]" >>> >>>> /Magnus >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 10:45:44 PM GMT+2, John Mardinly >>> >>>> <[2][4][5]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> Pure speculation. Where are the facts? Can anyone > document >>> good >>> >>> nail >>> >>>> polishing techniques that may have been used centuries > ago? I >>> >>> would >>> >>>> love to see it. Techniques used to polish things from >>> telescope >>> >>>> lenses >>> >>>> and mirrors to razors would not work well on > fingernails. The >>> >>> chamois >>> >>>> stropping technique used by Segovia because there was > not much >>> >>> better >>> >>>> in the mid 20th Century would be deemed laughable today > among >>> >>> those >>> >>>> who >>> >>>> play with nails. >>> >>>> A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. >>> >>>> On May 7, 2019, at 4:48 AM, Yuval Dvoran >>> >>>> <[1][1][3][5][6]yuval.dvo...@posteo.de> >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hahahaha good point! >>> >>>> To add something substantial to the discussion, I'd like > to >>> >>> remember >>> >>>> you that also plants exist which were used for thousands > of >>> >>> years to >>> >>>> polish wood (and maybe also fingernails), e.g. Equisetum >>> >>>> ("Schachtelhalm" in German).Am 07.05.2019 13:31 schrieb > jslute >>> >>>> <[2][2][4][6][7]jsl...@cs.dartmouth.edu>: >>> >>>> Dear All: >>> >>>> Might I suggest that a culture sophisticated > enough to >>> >>> build >>> >>>> lutes and >>> >>>> craft overwound strings could have figured out a > way to >>> >>> file >>> >>>> and >>> >>>> polish >>> >>>> their nails. >>> >>>> Jim Stimson >>> >>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >>> >>>> -------- Original message -------- >>> >>>> From: John Mardinly > <[3][3][5][7][8]john.mardi...@asu.edu> >>> >>>> Date: 5/6/19 6:51 PM (GMT-05:00) >>> >>>> To: Roland Hayes >>> <[4][4][6][8][9]rha...@legalaidbuffalo.org> >>> >>>> Cc: Lute List > <[5][5][7][9][10]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >>> >>>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: De Visee >>> >>>> More lacking than glue-on-nails might have been > some of >>> >>> the >>> >>>> modern >>> >>>> files and abrasives used to polish the nails. > Badly >>> >>> prepared >>> >>>> nails give >>> >>>> a terrible result for both sound and playability. > My >>> >>> teacher >>> >>>> back >>> >>>> in >>> >>>> 1965 had studied with Segovia, and showed me how > Segovia >>> >>>> prepared >>> >>>> his >>> >>>> nails: after some filing, he used a wooden block > with a >>> >>> saw-cut >>> >>>> slot in >>> >>>> it and a piece of chamois wrapped around the > wooden >>> block. >>> >>> The >>> >>>> nail was >>> >>>> then rubbed back and forth on the chamois over the > slot, >>> >>> which >>> >>>> acted as >>> >>>> a track to guide the nail. When I began to study >>> >>> metallurgy and >>> >>>> the art >>> >>>> of cross-sectioning and polishing metals to view > their >>> >>>> microstructure, >>> >>>> I experienced a revolution in materials to polish > the >>> >>> nails >>> >>>> that >>> >>>> were >>> >>>> quickly adopted by many people playing with nails. >>> >>>> A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. >>> >>>>> On May 6, 2019, at 3:34 PM, Roland Hayes >>> >>>> <[6][6][8][10][11]rha...@legalaidbuffalo.org> >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Do we think he played with nails? Lutenists did > not >>> as >>> >>> I >>> >>>> understand, >>> >>>>> but >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> I have always thought his lute pieces were > merely >>> >>>> arrangements of >>> >>>>> guitar/theorbo pieces. For those instruments we > can >>> >>>> establish >>> >>>> the >>> >>>> use >>> >>>>> of nails. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> And if deVisee played guitar with nails, then > he most >>> >>> likely >>> >>>> played >>> >>>>> theorbo with nails as well. Yes? 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