Dear Matthew, merci beaucoup pour tes observations précises et pour ton offre d'analyser ma position de main et peut-être trouver une solution. I added a link to a photo of my right hand on my 8c lute with the pinky close to the chanterelle - I didn't make a video because I would need to more or less voluntarily touch the string while playing which I'd be afraid exposes me to ridicule.
https://flic.kr/p/2gPx4vk I'm playing the easy anonymous Courantes of the Cherbury Lutebook because I have tremendous problems to hit the right bass course. As a side effect I also have the pinky issue that ruins my inner peace which my initial post was about. The fairly easy one on f.25vb (if the pieces of the book were numbered no.52) is a perfect example for my nightmares (both for the pinky causing the chanterelle to buzz or mute frequently and my thumb that misses frequently it's destination). String distance is "standard" according to the lute maker: The spacing between courses is precisely 10mm (also between D and the chanterelle), the strings of the doubled courses are 5mm apart. As you very sharply observed, I do not have issues with my 6c lute where I play the music thumb under with a very different angle of the hand. OK so far! Thanks again, Jürgen ---------------------------------- “Close your eyes. Fall in love. Stay there.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Saturday, August 3, 2019 6:35 PM, Matthew Daillie <dail...@club-internet.fr> wrote: > I suspect that this very issue explains why there are so many depictions of > lutenists playing late renaissance and baroque lutes with the little-finger > the other side of the bridge where there are no strings to hamper it. If one > changes the angle of the hand in relation to the courses of the lute, with > the thumb out and the other fingers more perpendicular to the strings, it is > inevitable that the little finger catches on the chanterelle as one plays on > the lower courses. With thumb-under technique, the fingers are more parallel > to the strings and the little finger keeps a safe distance from the top > string (and some players develop a scissor motion between the pinky and the > other fingers so that the former remains on a more or less fixed position on > the top). > > Jurgen, what music and what type of lute are you playing? What are the > right-hand bridge spacings? Can you put a photo or video of the offending > pinky online (or send privately if you are not seeking international > celebrity)? > > Best, > > Matthew > > Le 3 août 2019 à 07:52, Jurgen Frenz eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com a > écrit : > > > Hi there, > > in addition to the ongoing very interesting discussion on RH technique > > I have a practical problem / question. > > When playing thumb-out and alternate m-i stroke I find it next to > > impossible reach with the fingers downwards beyond the a string without > > touching with the inner skin of the mentioned pinky the high g string. > > Is there something I can do to improve? I find it quite frustrating to > > stumble always over this limitation of mine. > > Raising the wrist more distant to the sound board seems to be logical > > but to me that results in a right hand that is light years away from > > "relaxed". > > Thanks for reading, best regards > > Jurgen > > -- > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
