You might want to check, especially, pages 301-04 and 329-30 in vol. 1. And the concordances and cognates and thematics in vol. 2. By the way "On en dira" is not by Sermisy. The two chansons share the same melody, but otherwise the settings do not agree. There is a direct concordance with one intabulation B[ernardo] N. in Munich 1511d (Sermisy or Le Peletier "Si mon malheure") with the same piece in the Marco fascicle. It is not unusual for a composer to include a few works by others (sometimes ones students) in a collected "edition" of a prominent composer. Marco's father was named Bernardo, but pieces by Sermisy generation composers would seem to modern for a person old enough to be Marco's father. I suggest possible lutenists named Bernardo in a footnote 36 of p. 304. (I seem to have had a Newsidler obsession back then.) -----Original Message----- From: Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. <sa...@gerbode.net> To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Mon, Aug 12, 2019 9:17 pm Subject: [LUTE] Re: Original composers of some songs I don't think I am using HTML.... I have a copy of Art's dissertation, and it is searchable. I will check what I can glean from there. Thanks! --Sarge > Don't use HTML! > > >> --- >> >> I am busy working on the next 50 pieces from the Herwarth MS, trying to >> figure out who composed what. > > I assume you are talking about 266, right? > There are several "Herwarth manuscripts". > > Anyway, have a look at Arthur's dissertation: > > The Herwarth Lute Manuscripts at the Bavarian State Library, Munich > (Part 1) - A bibliographical study with Emphasis on the Works of Marco > dall'Aquila and Melchior Newsidler by Arthur J.Ness, February 1984 > (PhD Dissertation, New York University) > > The Herwarth Lute Manuscripts at the Bavarian State Library, Munich > (Part 2) - A bibliographical study with Emphasis on the Works of Marco > dall'Aquila and Melchior Newsidler by Arthur J.Ness, February 1984 > (PhD Dissertation, New York University) > > > It is available at the LSA web pages (possibly to members only) and > the text is searchable (probably run through some OCR Software). > > Rainer > > PS > > If you don't have (access to) the dissertation ask me - or Arthur :) > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >
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