I asked my lute maker friend and he told me he makes his own dentine
with bone filings and superglue. I tend to do the same with wood filler
using wood filings from the same wood mixed in wood glue.
Regards
Anthony
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Le vendredi, novembre 29, 2019, 12:06 AM, John Mardinly
<john.mardi...@asu.edu> a écrit :
Well, the non-silver composites used for fillings today do have
phenomenal properties, but I thought they all needed a special light
to
cure them.
A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
On Nov 28, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Anthony Hind
<[1][2]agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
A lutemaker friend did the work and I can't distinguish it from the
original bone on the nut.
He called it dentine. It seemed to be liquid and in a small bottle.
Perhaps it's a sort of ceramic used for filling front teeth, but I
admit I'm not sure. Perhaps a lute maker on the list will know.
Best
Anthony
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Le jeudi, novembre 28, 2019, 10:59 PM, John Mardinly
<[2][3]john.mardi...@asu.edu> a à ©crit :
I have seen a similar problem when moving to smaller diameter
strings,
especially if the nut was filed with jeweler's files giving it a
âv'
shaped profile . However, what is 'dentist's dentine', some sort of
magic epoxy?
A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
On Nov 28, 2019, at 1:32 AM, Anthony Hind
<[2][3][4]agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
Could it perhaps be Leonard, that the grooves at your nut at 5C
was
set up for your thicker unisson strings. Something similar
happened
to
me on my 11C lute, when I replaced Venice twine unissons on F4
with
equivalent thinner loaded strings. I heard a definite rattle. I
put
the
Venices back and the problem went away.
However later on my 3A unisson HT gut strings a similar rattle
appeared, I hadn't changed the diameter, but perhaps some wear
had
slightly widened the groove or the neck moved a little. I could
have
changed to slightly thicker strings, but a lute maker friend said
he
could lightly fill and raise the nut's groove with dentist's
dentine.
This did the trick, so this solution for changing to octaves
could
possibly work for you.
On my 7C lute, on 5C, I have Venice twine unissons and like
yourself,
I
have been thinking of moving to 1.00 Venice bass and 0.52HT
octave,
but
I fear a similar problem will occur as the lute originally was
set
up
for the unisons so with a wider 1.00mm groove
Also, I imagine perhaps wrongly, that a 0,52 Ht gut string will
last
a
lot less than a 1.00 Venice unisson.
Am I wrong about that?
Best wishes
Anthony
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Le mercredi, novembre 27, 2019, 8:33 PM, Leonard Williams
<[3][4][5]arc...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> a à ©crit :
I, too have had issues with octaves on the 5th course of my
8
course lute. I tried it several years ago, using an octave
half
the
diameter of the bass (all in gut). But, whereas the octave g
on
6th
blended well with its bass, the octave c stood out, sounding
jangly,
almost as though I had a metal string on there. Perhaps it was
poor
(thumb-in in this case) technique? At any rate, I switched
back
to
unison.
I'm trying octaves again as a result of this discussion,
same
stringing. One thing I paid careful attention to was the
height
of
the
octave: it stood a mere half millimeter above the bass at the
bridge,
but enough that I was striking the pair of strings unevenly,
with
the
octave ringing out quite plainly. I adjusted the bridge knot,
what
little I could, and the sound improved somewhat. Perhaps
further
work
with RH technique will further improve the sound. Or--any
other
suggestions??
Regards to all, and Happy (US) Thanksgiving!
Leonard Williams
On 23 nov. 2019, at 13:17, Jurgen Frenz
<[1][2][4][5][6]eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com> wrote:
Hello there,
I have an 8c lute now since 10 months and from the beginning I'm
"unhappy" with the sound of the unison C strings on it. I changed
the
plain Aquila strings to round-wound Aquilas but to me it sounds
quite
the same. What I'm missing is the high frequencies that we have
on
6c
instruments with the octave string. In my mind I call the current
sound
"plastic-y". The maker of the instrument suggested to try out the
Savarez early music strings but I do not think I would recover
high
frequencies with them.
Any remedies that you have tried out with success other than
"just
get
used to it"? An octave string shouldn't be a good idea because it
would
confuse voices.
Hoping for some suggestions,
Jurgen
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