On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:48 PM, stefano franchi
<stefano.fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Scott Kostyshak <skost...@lyx.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, stefano franchi
>> <stefano.fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Jason F. Siegel <siege...@umail.iu.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 03/05/2014 12:36 AM, stefano franchi wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Jason F. Siegel <siege...@umail.iu.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 03/03/2014 05:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Jason F. Siegel" <siege...@umail.iu.edu> írta:
>>>>
>>>> I've attached the LaTeX and BiBTex logs in one text file. I've also
>>>> attached a LyX MWE with the ERT that got left out of the first one, to
>>>> show the formatting problems that were apparent in the PDF of the beta
>>>> file.
>>>>
>>>> --Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 03/03/2014 12:58 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Jason F. Siegel <siege...@umail.iu.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Csikos,
>>>>
>>>> I've provided a non-beta file with this e-mail. However, here the
>>>> problem is
>>>> different, as I stated in the original e-mail. In the non-beta, even
>>>> with
>>>> what I believe are the same settings (I'll admit I could be overlooking
>>>> something), the references don't load at all. There is no formatting of
>>>> the
>>>> citations and no bibliography prints at the end. I would be happy to
>>>> continue to use the stable version of LyX if it meant I could get my
>>>> references and could format my ERT properly.
>>>>
>>>> I have attached the PDFs of the non beta and the PDF of the earlier LyX
>>>> file
>>>> and also the .bib file, as well, so that people can see what I'm
>>>> seeing,
>>>> even if it's not reproducing on their machine.
>>>>
>>>> Jason,
>>>>
>>>> you file works fine here on LyX 2.0.7 (see attached). Citation and
>>>> bibliography are as you desire (I think).
>>>>
>>>> What do you see in the log file?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stefano
>>>>
>>>> --Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 03/03/2014 08:37 AM, Csikos Bela wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Jason F. Siegel" <siege...@umail.iu.edu> írta:
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm having some trouble getting my bibliography and in-line citations
>>>> formatted properly. For some reason, the bibliography is sorting in
>>>> the
>>>> order the references are cited, rather than in alphabetical order.
>>>> Moreover, inline citations that should be Author (YEAR) are Author
>>>> (Title). I'm using biblatex 2.8 and biber 1.8, with natbib and
>>>> plainnat
>>>> style on Ubuntu 13.10 with Lyx 2.1.0dev (the references don't even
>>>> load
>>>> in 2.0.7 for some reason).
>>>>
>>>> In the same document, ERT with the ExPex package isn't formatting as
>>>> expected. I'm trying to get bold italics , but \bf gives me bold
>>>> upright
>>>> characters and \textbf gives me one bold italicized character
>>>> followed
>>>> by italics. I'm also trying to get small caps, but it's just plain
>>>> lowercase. Any thoughts or aid people can give would be most welcome.
>>>> I've attached an he.
>>>>
>>>> Jason,
>>>>
>>>> I tried to open your MWE but it seems it is in lyx 2.1 format. I have
>>>> only
>>>> lyx 2.0 installed.
>>>>
>>>> Jason,
>>>>
>>>> I have some general comments.
>>>>
>>>> - Please do not top post. Always write your message _below_ the included
>>>> previous messages or _right_below_ to a part (of a previous message) you
>>>> are
>>>> actually refer to.
>>>>
>>>> - The examples you have provided are not minimal examples. Rather they are
>>>> very complex documents. Try to reduce the example to as simple as possible
>>>> removing unnecessary text, unnecessary options, and preamble settings but
>>>> keeping those that cause the error.
>>>>
>>>> Back to the specific case:
>>>>
>>>> In the bib file you attached in your previous mail (MasterList.bib) the
>>>> last entry (@BOOK{UNICEF2009) is incomplete and not correctly closed.
>>>> There
>>>> is a missing "}" at the end and I think "address = " is not valid. The
>>>> entry
>>>> "Cohen1998" is not correct. For me this caused compilation error and a very
>>>> different output.
>>>>
>>>> I am attaching the corrected bib file and two pdfs, compiled with the
>>>> original, and with the fixed bib file.
>>>>
>>>> In your current message the log file indicates that during compilation
>>>> bibtex is used. This should be biber (backend is set to biber in the
>>>> preamble). Maybe you have not set lyx to use biber instead of bibtex under
>>>> Tools=>Preferences=>Output=>LaTeX=>Processor: biber. Make sure you have
>>>> biber set there.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Csikos,
>>>> ,
>>>> Thanks for your helpful instructions, and for fixing my bibliography.
>>>> Unfortunately, they do not solve my problems. Any time I select biber as
>>>> the
>>>> backend (in the preamble, in settings, in preferences, and in any
>>>> combination), the PDF does not compile. With your fix, in both the beta and
>>>> the stable version, I get two 'Undefined control sequence' errors, one for
>>>> \sortlist and the other for \endsortlist.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>
>>>> my suggestion to get out of the problem you find yourself is the same
>>>> as Cskos's: try to reduce the number of variables as much as possible
>>>> in order to isolate the root of the problem.
>>>>
>>>> The first thing you need to find out is whether you have a working
>>>> biblatex+biber installation.
>>>> 1. Make a new lyx file using one of the standard classes (book,
>>>> article), add )only* your biblatex call to the preamble (the
>>>> \usepackage and the \addbibresource commands), and put no more than
>>>> one word of text in the file itself, plus a couple of references at
>>>> most. See what happens.
>>>>
>>>> If biblatex/biber work in the simplest possible scenario, you can
>>>> start to work on your (very complex) preamble.
>>>>
>>>> I created a new document with just two citations using BiBLaTeX and biber,
>>>> and the document still fails to compile, giving me the same two errors that
>>>> I cited above, for \sortlist and \endsortlist.
>>>>
>>>> I notice in my BiBTeX log it says
>>>>
>>>> WARN - Warning: Found biblatex control file version 1.7, expected version
>>>> 2.5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It wouldn't surprise me if this is the culprit, but I have no clue about
>>>> how
>>>> to fix it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That is most likely the source of all or at least most of your troubles.
>>>
>>> It is crucial that you keep biber and biblatex in sync. The best way
>>> to do this in a production environment is to never install packages
>>> manually, but to rely on texlive manager, which will take care of the
>>> sync for you. However, this is for the future, and the problem is now
>>> how to fix your current (apparently broken) installation.
>>>
>>> This (relatively) simple requirement is made more complicated on
>>> Ubuntu (which I believe you are using) because Ubuntu' package manager
>>> also tries to manage the TeX live installation, but it is not in sync
>>> with the updated TeX Live repositories. Long story short: if you have
>>> installed *both* Ubuntu's TeXLive *and* the official TeXLive
>>> distribution (from www.tug.org/texlive ), you are in trouble. They
>>> conflict with each other. You need to opt either for the official
>>> TeXLive (more up to date, but need to be updated manually by you with
>>> tlmgr) or Ubuntu's version (not so up to date, but managed
>>> automatiaclly by the Ubuntu package manager).
>>
>> The tricky thing is that even if you want to go with the official TeX
>> Live installation, Ubuntu will still try to install its own whenever
>> you install a package that depends on LaTeX.
>>
>> My installation script for TeX Live 2013 handles all of that automatically:
>> https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu
>>
>> clone and run with
>> sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu
>>
>> and you're done.
>
>
> Great script! Thanks Scott.
>
> My own solution to the constant fights between TeXLive and Ubuntu was
> a bit own radical: I ditched Ubuntu and went for Archlinux.
> Happy camper ever since....
Sounds like a good solution!
Scott
