Hi,

Anatol Pomozov wrote 2011-07-22 02.33:
FYI: The upcoming version of Fuse4X will include additional *.dylib files that are binary compatible with MacFUSE [1] so any application will work with Fuse4X without recompiling. Fuse4X is going to include compatible MacFUSE.framework as well [2].

Ok, so what is the difference between OSXFUSE and FUSE4X now again? :)

FYI 2: there is an ongoing conversation with Miklos about merging MacFUSE/Fuse4X changes to the upstream project (don't forget that MacFUSE is a fork itself). It'll take some time though, at least a few months.

This would be the libfuse changes I assume. This would be much welcome, but please make sure that generic MacFUSE changes are merged and not changes that diverge between MacFUSE / FUSE4X / OSXFUSE (at least we need to agree between FUSE4X and OSXFUSE on pushing such changes upstream as it affects us both).

[1] Well, it won't be 100% compatible. Fuse4X has a few changes in fuse behavior (e.g. async mount(); fuse4x does not block SIGCHLD anymore; does not changes semaphores implementation from Darwin; has some de-initialization changes...). But assuming that the most filesystems are written for Linux (encfs, truecrypt, sshfs,...) with the upstream fuse behavior in mind it these changes will not break them. Even more - as Fuse4X follows standard closer these applications will work more stable and have less problems.

[2] It is still not clear to me the legal question around MacFUSE name. This brand belongs to Google and Amit explicitly asked not to use it so I am not sure if I can distribute/change MacFUSE.framework. So I need to clarify it with Google first or just wait until Google contacts and asks to remove MacFUSE.framework from the distribution package.

MacFUSE isn't really a registered trademark of either Amit or Google, is it? (I sincerely doubt that they would find MacFUSE to be worth protecting as a trademark.) It's not realistic to change all occurrences of 'MacFUSE' into something else, as this would mean that we have no chance of being compatible with existing software... especially in the case of MacFUSE.framework.

How far is the 'rebranding' expected to go? With this strict interpretation of brand ownership and usage we are all handcuffed when it comes to being compatible with existing binaries. (Amit is as always welcome to speak his mind... if he hasn't terminated his membership in this group.)

Regards,

- Erik

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Benjamin Fleischer <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Josh,

    check out OSXFUSE. There has been some quite some messages in the
    past about OSXFUSE on this mailinglist.
    OSXFUSE is compatible with Leopard through Lion and features a
    compatibility layer to be compatible with "all" existing MacFUSE
    filesystems ("all" in: I could not test all, but OSXFUSE and
    MacFUSE are binary compatible). Unlike Fuse4X the MacFUSE
    filesystems don't even have to be recompiled! OSXFUSE is a drop-in
    replacement for MacFUSE.

    OSXFUSE has been build on Tuxera's rebel branch and my sources.
    Erik (the author of the rebel branch) and I are the the owners of
    the OSXFUSE project.

    Homepage will be http://osxfuse.github.com
    The GitHub is https://github.com/osxfuse
    Our google group is http://groups.google.com/group/osxfuse-group

    You can find some instructions on building OSXFUSE in the group.
    If you need assistance, feel free to ask. But please hold off from
    distributing any builds. The update mechanism has not been set up
    and there are a few other things I'm working on right now. Non the
    less OSXFUSE's core feature is already fully functional.

    I will post an official beta in in the next two or three days.
    More information to come. Just thought I'd let you know. We don't
    need another MacFUSE fork/build around. The situation is already a
    mess as it is. But I will highly appreciate you spreading the word
    when we are ready, in a few days. You blog post has helped quite
    some people.

    Regards,
    Benjamin

    Am 21.07.2011 um 07:02 schrieb Josh:

    Hello, I am the author of the blog post jb links to below. The direct
    link to the page is here:

    
http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2010/12/31/macfuse-for-64-bit-snow-leopard

    I get many thank you comments from people, so I can only hope it
    helps
    them. I can't take any credit for the work however, since I just
    compiled Tuxera's 'rebel' source code.

    I am trying to figure out how to compile for Lion, and I've made some
    progress, but so far I am stuck on a check in the build script, I'll
    have to start understanding how it works I guess.

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